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** The idealization of Snape is a complex matter, specially in modern times. A lot of people defend Snape and vilifies James Potter, but the message in practice is pretty dangerous; is the message that a man is entitled to have love/sex of a woman because he was nice or friendly to her, and suddenly James Potter is the bad guy because Lily on her own consent and accord choose ''him'' over the one that she really didnt' like or felt atracted to, which she doesn't has at any point, the "duty" to please. This is very toxic Incel-like thinking. And yes, Potter's actions as a bully are unjustifiable on their own, but people change and should not be accounted guilty for what they did as teens. Fans of Snape often cherry pick that incident to show him as the bad guy, disregarding that Snape had the same toxic mentality that he was entitled to Lily up until his adult years, he enter a criminal organization of supremacists and was willing to sacrifice Lily's son and husband as far as she was left alive. Snape is a complex character of course, takes a lot of heroic and self-sacrificial actions and is no doubt a sympathetic character with some important virtues, but also has a lot of defects and the defense some people do of his actions (and his creepy obssession with Lily) is worrying.
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** The idealization of Snape is a complex matter, specially in modern times. A lot of people defend Snape and vilifies vilify James Potter, but the message in practice is pretty dangerous; it is the message that a man is entitled to have the love/sex of a woman because he was nice or friendly to her, and suddenly James Potter is the bad guy because Lily on her own consent and accord choose ''him'' over the one that she really didnt' like or felt atracted to, which she doesn't has didn't at any point, the "duty" to please. This is very toxic Incel-like thinking. And yes, Potter's actions as a bully are unjustifiable on their own, but people change and should not be accounted guilty for what they did as teens. Fans of Snape often cherry pick that incident to show him as the bad guy, disregarding that Snape had the same toxic mentality that he was entitled to Lily up until his adult years, he enter a criminal organization of supremacists and was willing to sacrifice Lily's son and husband as far as she was left alive. Snape is a complex character of course, takes a lot of heroic and self-sacrificial actions and is no doubt a sympathetic character with some important virtues, but also has a lot of defects and the defense some people do of his actions (and his creepy obssession with Lily) is worrying.
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** It was a film plot hole. While it wasn't specified exactly when it happened, Dumbledore hid the real sword of Gryffindor in a hidden hole in the wall behind his portrait (or where he knew his portrait would go) in the headmaster's office. The movie makes seemingly conflicting statements regarding the sword with Scrimegour saying they couldn't find the sword while Griphook saying it was in the Lestrange vault. Wouldn't the Ministry have gone to the Headmaster's office soon after Dumbledore's death to tally all of Dumbledore's belongings for the will since they were so distrusting of him? Also, would Snape have had access to Hogwarts before he was made Headmaster with McGonagall in charge?
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** It was a film plot hole. While it wasn't specified exactly when it happened, Dumbledore hid the real sword of Gryffindor in a hidden hole in the wall behind his portrait (or where he knew his portrait would go) in the headmaster's office. The movie makes seemingly conflicting statements regarding the sword with Scrimegour saying they couldn't find the sword while Griphook saying it was in the Lestrange vault. Wouldn't the Ministry have gone to the Headmaster's office soon after Dumbledore's death to tally all of Dumbledore's belongings for the will since they were so distrusting of him? Also, would Snape have had access to Hogwarts before he was made Headmaster with McGonagall [=McGonagall=] in charge?
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** It was a film plot hole. While it wasn't specified exactly when it happened, Dumbledore hid the real sword of Gryffindor in a hidden hole in the wall behind his portrait (or where he knew his portrait would go) in the headmaster's office. The movie makes seemingly conflicting statements regarding the sword with Scrimegour saying they couldn't find the sword while Griphook saying it was in the Lestrange vault. Wouldn't the Ministry have gone to the Headmaster's office soon after Dumbledore's death to tally all of Dumbledore's belongings for the will since they were so distrusting of him?
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** It was a film plot hole. While it wasn't specified exactly when it happened, Dumbledore hid the real sword of Gryffindor in a hidden hole in the wall behind his portrait (or where he knew his portrait would go) in the headmaster's office. The movie makes seemingly conflicting statements regarding the sword with Scrimegour saying they couldn't find the sword while Griphook saying it was in the Lestrange vault. Wouldn't the Ministry have gone to the Headmaster's office soon after Dumbledore's death to tally all of Dumbledore's belongings for the will since they were so distrusting of him?him? Also, would Snape have had access to Hogwarts before he was made Headmaster with McGonagall in charge?
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** It was a film plot hole. While it wasn't specified exactly when it happened, Dumbledore hid the real sword of Gryffindor in a hidden hole in the wall behind his portrait (or where he knew his portrait would go) in the headmaster's office. The movie makes seemingly conflicting statements regarding the sword with Scrimegour saying they couldn't find the sword while Griphook saying it was in the Lestrange vault. Wouldn't the Ministry have gone to the Headmaster's office soon after Dumbledore's death to tally all of Dumbledore's belongings for the will since they were so distrusting of him?
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*** There was no explanation in the film about why there was a replica of the sword in the Lestrange vault nor where Snape got the sword in the first place to give it to the trio. Those explanations were omitted from the movie.
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** Hermione knew they still had a job to do there and that was to get the horocrux diadem. She allowed Ron's timely distraction of the Draco and his goons to help Harry.
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**** In the deleted scene mentioned above, Pansy calls Filch a "filthy squib".
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** Look more closely, Lily was seated between young Sirius and James. It looked like James was sorted after Lily unless she decided to cut in between the two boys at the table. However, would there be so few students selected between Evans and Potter that he could still sit next to her?
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** Regarding Bella's and Nagini's deaths (as well as Voldy's), the effects were done for those watching in 3D.
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*** According to WordofGod, the replica is considered to be inferior as it tarnishes much faster than the original and is considered worthless, so it can be reasoned that the replica is more of a superficial copy. After all, this couldn't work on gold coins without making gold worthless. By the way, Hermione also did this spell in the book on Slytherin's Locket without the continuous multiplying effects.
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** As for the question of where they got the dress Hermione wore, Fleur had it. There is a scene in the movie where Fleur tells Hermione that the dress she hands Hermione was as close as she had to what Hermione (offscreen) asked her for.
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* How can Snape's memory which he gives to Harry contain footage of the night Voldemort attacked the Potters? One might argue that Voldemort showed Snape the memory of killing Lily for whatever reason, but it also shows Lily comforting baby Harry when Voldemort wasn't even in the room.
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* How can Snape's memory which he gives to Harry contain footage of the night Voldemort attacked attacking the Potters? One might argue that Voldemort showed Snape the memory of killing Lily for whatever reason, but it also shows Lily comforting baby Harry when Voldemort wasn't even in the room.
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* How can Snape's memory which he gives to Harry contain footage of the night Voldemort attacked the Potters? One might argue that Voldemort showed Snape the memory of killing Lily for whatever reason, but it also shows Lily comforting baby Harry when Voldemort wasn't even in the room.
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* How can Snape's memory which he gives to Harry contain footage of the night Voldemort attacked the Potters? One might argue that Voldemort showed Snape the memory of killing Lily for whatever reason, but it also shows Lily comforting baby Harry when Voldemort wasn't even in the room.
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** It would make more sense if they just disapparated again. In the book, they were relaxing in their tent with Harry coming to the conclusion that Voldy was looking for the Elder Wand when he accidentally said his name, triggering the taboo, allowing the snatchers to find them. They had no time to do anything before their campsite and tent were surrounded. Hermione still jinxed Harry with the same spell to prevent him from being recognized just like in the movie.
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* When Neville is making his speech after Voldy comes back with the supposedly dead Harry, Neville comments on the various people who had died, including Tonks and Remus. How did he know them so well? At no point in either the books or movies did Neville meet Tonks or knew Lupin enough to be on a FirstNameBasis with him.
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* When Neville is making his speech after Voldy comes back with the supposedly dead Harry, Neville comments on the various people who had died, including Tonks and Remus. How did he know them so well? At no point in either the books or movies did Neville meet Tonks or knew Lupin enough to be on a FirstNameBasis with him.
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** It's a kind of situation we can ONLY speculate it is happening this way and probably a psychologist or a therapist would give better answer than us. While it may come as awkward, they're people who just survived a war they fought in the first lines. As was said, they're exhausted, wounded, glad that it's all over and the realization that it is indeed finally over is just dawning on them. Hell, they might not even all be convinced that it really is over. As there were so many plot twists during the whole history of V and HP. HP should have died as a baby, but survived, bouncing the spell and killing V. Then V was several times on the brink of ressurection, then ressurected for real, then DE took over Ministry and V was on the peak of power again, then he KILLED HP, then HARRY POTTER RESSURECTED and killed V for like ''gazhillionth'' time. So... yeah, they aren't quick to jump at Harry, throw him in the air and cheer like Gryffindor just won the house cup. They still might suspect V to pop up from behind laughing like a maniac and cast AK all over the place. They're shocked, scared, relieved, mourning, hurting, glad... all these emotions at the same time. So they're just letting it set in.
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** And then, there's a problem with it being a horcrux, how would multiplication work? It surely can't make two or more cups with the exact same properties, as it contains a part of V's soul. And you can't ctrl+c and ctrl+v on soul. It wouldn't make indefinite smaller splits of the soul, either. The only way it would be possible that it would multiply, but only one copy of the cup would retain the part of soul. But that's the same kind of speculation like "what is boggart's true form, when nobody sees him?" So while it ''may'' be possible to put some defensive charms on the cup, multiplication wouldn't be one of them.
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** The idealization of Snape is a complex matter, specially in modern times. A lot of people defend Snape and vilifies James Potter, but the message in practice is pretty dangerous; is the message that a man is entitled to have love/sex of a woman because he was nice or friendly to her, and suddenly James Potter is the bad guy because Lily on her own consent and accord choose ''him'' over the one that she really didnt' like or felt atracted to, which she doesn't has at any point, the "duty" to please. This is very toxic Incel-like thinking. And yes, Potter's actions as a bully are unjustifiable on their own, but people change and should not be accounted guilty for what they did as teens. Fans of Snape often cherry pick that incident to show him as the bad guy, disregarding that Snape had the same toxic mentality that he was entitled to Lily up until his adult years, he enter a criminal organization of supremacists and was willing to sacrifice Lily's son and husband as far as she was left alive. Snape is a complex character of course, takes a lot of heroic and self-sacrificial actions and is no doubt a sympathetic character with some important virtues, but also has a lot of defects and the defense some people do of his actions (and his creepy obssession with Lily) is worrying.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. Indeed, we ''see'' that some of them - not just the Malfoys - pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere as soon as Harry reveals he's alive. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off on prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his minions that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's ''still'' by far the more powerful of the two.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. Indeed, we ''see'' that some of them - not just the Malfoys - pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere as soon as Harry reveals he's alive. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off on prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his minions that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's ''still'' by far the more powerful of the two. That he's doing this with no obvious witnesses actually ''present'' just shows that he's so far gone into having his minions fawn over him that he takes it for granted somebody's watching.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off on prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his minions that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's ''still'' by far the more powerful of the two.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. Indeed, we ''see'' that some of them - not just the Malfoys - pull a ScrewThisImOuttaHere as soon as Harry reveals he's alive. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off on prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his minions that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's ''still'' by far the more powerful of the two.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off of prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his audience that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's still by far the more powerful of the two.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off of on prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his audience minions that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's still ''still'' by far the more powerful of the two. two.
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** Voldemort isn't just toying with Harry, he's ''showing off'' to his Death Eater followers. Seeing Harry return from the dead ''has'' to have shaken their confidence in Voldemort's powers, if the ever-elusive, miracle-escaping, how-the-eff-is-this-kid-''still''-not-done-for Potter can shake off their boss's Killing Curse '''yet again'''. So aside from getting his sociopathic jollies off of prolonging their duel, Voldemort is showing his audience that he can incapacitate the sanctimonious little brat any time he feels like it: that he's still by far the more powerful of the two.
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** Dumbledore probably knew that so long as ''he'' had the Wand, Voldemort would keep plotting against ''him'' rather than sidestep him to target Harry more directly. Better to keep the villain's attentions divided, while ensuring that he, Dumbledore, could still whip Voldemort's behind if he ''did'' get the chance to duel him again.
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*** That would make sense, especially with Hermione (who was nearly 12) being sorted first in the film, but then we have Draco (born in June) being sorted before Ron (born in March). Unless they decided to change their birthdates in the films like they indirectly did with Harry’s.
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*** That doesn’t work because Harry wasn’t the last to be sorted — he was just the last one we got to see.
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** Jossed.
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** It's simply just that George is giving Harry a knowing grin, since he just caught his brother's best friend kissing his sister, and was aware of Harry and Ginny's mutual crush, while Harry was embarrassed at having been caught by Ginny's older brother, but probably thought it best to give George a smile (albeit, an embarrassed one). After all, not every brother goes absolutely apeshit when they see someone kissing their little sister.
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