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** I see it from Brittany's side because I have been there. Nearly everyone in my school called me retarded at some point and it was only recently where I have had a class where someone didn't say it and I had to get a lawyer to get rid of the problems. So considering what Brittany said about Arite being the only one to never call her stupid at some point (which is likely a hyperbole, though maybe not) probably felt like a punch to the gut.

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*** You also can't forget that this isn't the first time this has happened. Artie is shown in Dream On and again now to be quite insecure about being nerdy and wheelchair-bound, and his last girlfriend also cheated on him with someone who is much higher up on the social ladder, and can do what Artie can't (or at absolute best, Tina dumped Artie for Mike, which is only marginally better). Artie has every right to be sensitive and lashing out.
** I see it from Brittany's side because I have been there. Nearly everyone in my school called me retarded at some point and it was only recently where I have had a class where someone didn't say it and I had to get a lawyer to get rid of the problems. So considering what Brittany said about Arite Artie being the only one to never call her stupid at some point (which is likely a hyperbole, though maybe not) probably felt like a punch to the gut.




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** Although I agree with your point, I think there are a few reasons. Firstly, Finn was obviously saying what he said to ''hurt'' Santana, whereas Brittany was coming from a place of love. Secondly, there's no confirmation that that blind item in the Muckraker was Brittany's work. Rachel immediately knowing who that blind item referred to (plus Finn's later 'everyone knew already' comment) suggests that Santana and Brittany's romance isn't as under-wraps as Santana might think, and I wouldn't put it past JBI or Sue to have their suspicions and just throw it in. Third, the Finn confrontation was the one that actually led to Santana being properly outed.
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*** Although they do bring attention to the weight issue, the show writers seem very deliberate about not outright stating that Mercedes is overweight. Puck only ever describes her as 'curvy', and the weight-loss episode seemed like more of an excuse to do the stock eating disorder plotline. Although Mercedes ''was'' the central character of that episode, the episode seems to avoid actually saying that she wanted to lose weight because she's a bigger girl, but rather because Sue has ridiculous and dangerous expectations, especially since Santana, Brittany and Becky were all also dieting and Sue tells ''Kurt'' that he needs to lose weight too.
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** Finn is assuming he's a victim of NiceGuysFinishLast, and he's trying to avoid that. He's generally tried to be a kind and honourable boyfriend in the two relationships he's been in, as well as trying to be a good friend, and although he hasn't been totally successful, he's a heck of a lot better than Puck, who has been complicit (and in Quinn's case, the instigator) in both incidents of Finn's girlfriends cheating on him. Finn is probably figuring that if he actually wants to be successful with girls, he needs to change his approach, and hence is taking the 'player' route. Add that to the fact that Quinn kissed him first, he probably wants to take out his frustration on someone else AND Finn's felt threatened by Sam pretty much since he turned up, it's not hard to see why Finn decided to try to 'steal' Quinn--it was more of a power play than anything else.
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** Two reasons: Firstly, until the hockey team appeared, it was clear that the majority of the bullying and slushie-ing was coming ''from the footballers''. They were hardly going to bully themselves. Also, that was very early (before Quinn's pregnancy was revealed or Finn became at all outspoken against the football team), when allying with the Glee Club was more of a kind of dorky thing to do, but not yet social suicide. Secondly, and more importantly, they had a scapegoat: Kurt. Anyone who knew ''anything'' about the footballers and/or Kurt would have known that 'Single Ladies' was Kurt's idea, and if the footballers cop any flack for it, they can pin that on Kurt saying that he made them do it. This time, the closest they have to someone like that are Finn and Puck, both of whom are reasonably well-liked, as well as being physically intimidating, and it's going to be harder to shift the blame to them.
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** Possibly they mean that in order to pay the upfront fees, Burt and Carole need to skip the honeymoon, although they may be able to afford the ongoing expenses with a few changes
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* Why were Puck and Artie suddenly cool when they performed in the courtyard? Hasn't it been established that the [=McKinley=] students think the Glee kids are losers and don't take well to random public performances, if said performance isn't over-the-top sexy? What made it different when Puck and Artie did it?
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*** The brief for the solos in "Laryngitis" was to pick a solo that expressed who you were as a person. Mike loves dancing, and I don't think it would be out-of-character for Will to let Mike have a pure dance number, if that's what Mike felt was truly an expression of himself.

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*** The brief for the solos in "Laryngitis" was to pick a solo that expressed who you were as a person. Mike loves dancing, and dancing (and wasn't one of the people getting called out for not singing) so I don't think it would be out-of-character for Will to let Mike have a pure dance number, if that's what Mike felt was truly an expression of himself.
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*** The brief for the solos in "Laryngitis" was to pick a solo that expressed who you were as a person. Mike loves dancing, and I don't think it would be out-of-character for Will to let Mike have a pure dance number, if that's what Mike felt was truly an expression of himself.
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** Because in Finn's mind, Sam is in the situation he was in last year, and Finn wants to alleviate it. Finn knows that you get bullied for being in Glee, and figures that it will be much worse if you're a new school with no prior support system or social rank, so he wants to try to prevent Sam quitting under the bullying. Finn also knows how persistent Kurt can be when it comes to pursuing people, and also how uncomfortable that it. Finn isn't saying 'straight guys need to put themselves first', he's saying that Kurt should try his best to make the new kid comfortable so that he doesn't quit.

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** Because in Finn's mind, Sam is in the situation he was in last year, and Finn wants to alleviate it. Finn knows that you get bullied for being in Glee, and figures that it will be much worse if you're a new school student with no prior support system or social rank, so he wants to try to prevent Sam quitting under the bullying. bullying, by trying to minimize the number of things Sam might be bullied for. Finn also knows how persistent Kurt can be when it comes to pursuing people, and also how uncomfortable that it.is. Finn isn't saying 'straight guys need to put themselves first', he's saying that Kurt should try his best to make the new kid comfortable so that he doesn't quit.
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** Because in Finn's mind, Sam is in the situation he was in last year, and Finn wants to alleviate it. Finn knows that you get bullied for being in Glee, and figures that it will be much worse if you're a new school with no prior support system or social rank, so he wants to try to prevent Sam quitting under the bullying. Finn also knows how persistent Kurt can be when it comes to pursuing people, and also how uncomfortable that it. Finn isn't saying 'straight guys need to put themselves first', he's saying that Kurt should try his best to make the new kid comfortable so that he doesn't quit.
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*** Kurt is ''[[InformedFlaw not]]'' [[CoolLoser popular]]. Which explains why the silent crowd [[FridgeLogic waited patiently]] for Kurt to return to the prom and [[MoodWhiplash cheered loudly]] when he accepted the crown. It also explains how an [[InformedFlaw "unpopular]] [[MarySue teenager"]] was able to find people willing to perform a flash mob at a mall in Ohio.

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*** Kurt is ''[[InformedFlaw not]]'' [[CoolLoser popular]].popular. Which explains why the silent crowd [[FridgeLogic waited patiently]] for Kurt to return to the prom and [[MoodWhiplash cheered loudly]] when he accepted the crown. It also explains how an [[InformedFlaw "unpopular]] [[MarySue teenager"]] was able to find people willing to perform a flash mob at a mall in Ohio.
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*** I'll need to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure that Blaine actually said "Winterfest." And yes, I'm aware that they stopped doing it in '92 and revived it for one last kick at the cat in '05, that was on Wiki/TheOtherWiki too. I'm saying that we're dealing with a fictional show where a real festival at a real amusement park continued after its real life counterpart ceased to exist so that the show had a glimmer of verisimilitude.

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*** I'll need to rewatch it, but I'm pretty sure that Blaine actually said "Winterfest." And yes, I'm aware that they stopped doing it in '92 and revived it for one last kick at the cat in '05, that was on Wiki/TheOtherWiki Website/TheOtherWiki too. I'm saying that we're dealing with a fictional show where a real festival at a real amusement park continued after its real life counterpart ceased to exist so that the show had a glimmer of verisimilitude.

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** CompletelyMissingThePoint. Will just made the swap so that he could get Emma back.

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** CompletelyMissingThePoint. Will just made the swap so that he could get Emma back.



*** [[CompletelyMissingthePoint Exactly.]]
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*** Now I'm confused. Didn't someone toward the back of the crowd (or offscreen some distance from the camera's microphones) applaud, and then stop because no one else was clapping or cheering? I thought that was an indication that at least ''someone'' sincerely wanted him to win, and didn't see it as an [[ShockingSwerve absurd]] [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt unlikelihood]]. If they meant it to be jeering, that could have been expressed more clearly. If it was in the background of my actual life the second time I saw the episode (I couldn't tell for sure the first time, since my fiancee and sister were congratulating [[IKnewIt my correct guess over what would happen from when Karofsky was elected]]), that was an amazing coincidence.

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*** Now I'm confused. Didn't someone toward the back of the crowd (or offscreen some distance from the camera's microphones) applaud, and then stop because no one else was clapping or cheering? I thought that was an indication that at least ''someone'' sincerely wanted him to win, and didn't see it as an [[ShockingSwerve [[AssPull absurd]] [[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt unlikelihood]]. If they meant it to be jeering, that could have been expressed more clearly. If it was in the background of my actual life the second time I saw the episode (I couldn't tell for sure the first time, since my fiancee and sister were congratulating [[IKnewIt my correct guess over what would happen from when Karofsky was elected]]), that was an amazing coincidence.
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* I may be missing a Mondegreen, but... did Glee really get away with not censoring the word "shit" in Rolling in the Deep? ''How??''
** The official lyrics of Music/{{Adele}}'s version say "...I'll lay your ship bare." So in essence, it is kind of a {{Mondegreen}}.

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* I may be missing a Mondegreen, mishearing something, but... did Glee really get away with not censoring the word "shit" in Rolling in the Deep? ''How??''
** The official lyrics of Music/{{Adele}}'s version say "...I'll lay your ship bare." So in essence, it is kind of a {{Mondegreen}}."

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* Because she was in massive denial about needing any treatment and about some of the harsher effects it had on her life, and he figured it would be the first step to helping her get better, forgetting the initial point of the shirts in the first place? Or perhaps acknowledging it with a positive attitude was a lot better than letting it ruin her marriage and conquer her life like it had been up til that point? Again, she was in denial, and that probably made things ''much'' worse than admitting she needed help.

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* Because she was in massive denial about needing any treatment and about some of the harsher effects it had on her life, and he figured it would be the first step to helping her get better, forgetting the initial point of the shirts in the first place? Or perhaps acknowledging it with a positive attitude was a lot better than letting it ruin her marriage and conquer her life like it had been up til until that point? Again, she was in denial, and that probably made things ''much'' worse than admitting she needed help.
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* Karofsky set off Santana's gaydar, for whatever that's worth. When she confronted him about it, he was clearly flustered and didn't deny it at first. He just asked her who told her that. Then he stumbled through a clearly made up explanation



* Also, Karofksy isn't smooth or smart enough to lie like that. Even look at what he said when Satana said it to him originally, the best he could come up with was that he was checking out Sam's jeans.

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* Also, Karofksy isn't smooth or smart enough to lie like that. Even look at what he said when Satana Santana said it to him originally, the best he could come up with was that he was checking out Sam's jeans.



** Yet they constantly bring attention to weight issue and Artie's handicapp. In fact they've dedicated entire episodes to both of those issues (Artie trying to walk, and Mercedes trying to lose weight), I doubt a t-shirt would raise any eyebrows. There's also a valid reason for Artie not putting his injury on his shirt. He was likely born with poor vision, and it's a part of him. He didn't get his paralyzing injury until he was eight, and that was a complete accident, which isn't part of who he is.
** It all seems to stem from the complete non-focus of the purpose of the assignment. Some seem to think it's about accepting and loving things about yourself that make you different but aren't necessarily bad things. Kurt, Rachel, Tina, Sam and Brittany (and Santana by way of Brittany and Emma initially) wear shirts to fit this idea. Rachel doesn't need a nose job to be beautiful nor does Tina need contacts. Emma shouldn't be ashamed of being a Ginger. Sam, Brittany, Kurt, and Santana's shirts all represent things that can't be changed. Others seem to think it's an excuse to avoid self-improvement. Puck thinking with his penis isn't something to embrace (which even he admits), nor are Lauren or Santana's bad attitude and bitchiness. Emma's second is some hybrid where she needs to accept that she's OCD but not embrace her OCD. It needs to change because it's causing problems in her life. Quinn,Finn,and Mike also fall into this category. So because the writers don't have a centralized message they can't put "Overweight" or "Wheelchair" on the shirt because then viewers don't know if they're saying that Artie needs to get out of his chair or if Mercedes is just giving up on ever losing weight, so you get "No Weave" which makes no sense.

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** Yet they constantly bring attention to weight issue and Artie's handicapp.handicap. In fact they've dedicated entire episodes to both of those issues (Artie trying to walk, and Mercedes trying to lose weight), I doubt a t-shirt would raise any eyebrows. There's also a valid reason for Artie not putting his injury on his shirt. He was likely born with poor vision, and it's a part of him. He didn't get his paralyzing injury until he was eight, and that was a complete accident, which isn't part of who he is.
** It all seems to stem from the complete non-focus of the purpose of the assignment. Some seem to think it's about accepting and loving things about yourself that make you different but aren't necessarily bad things. Kurt, Rachel, Tina, Sam and Brittany (and Santana by way of Brittany and Emma initially) wear shirts to fit this idea. Rachel doesn't need a nose job to be beautiful nor does Tina need contacts. Emma shouldn't be ashamed of being a Ginger. Sam, Brittany, Kurt, and Santana's shirts all represent things that can't be changed. Others seem to think it's an excuse to avoid self-improvement. Puck thinking with his penis isn't something to embrace (which even he admits), nor are Lauren or Santana's bad attitude and bitchiness. Emma's second is some hybrid where she needs to accept that she's OCD but not embrace her OCD. It needs to change because it's causing problems in her life. Quinn,Finn,and Quinn, Finn, and Mike also fall into this category. So because the writers don't have a centralized message they can't put "Overweight" or "Wheelchair" on the shirt because then viewers don't know if they're saying that Artie needs to get out of his chair or if Mercedes is just giving up on ever losing weight, so you get "No Weave" which makes no sense.



Alright, instead of of the whole fiasco causing Quinn to get less votes, it causes her to get idolized by the overweight and homely female students. They treat her like a hero. It would have been different if she had just lost some weight and got the acne medication for health/appearence purposes. But she got lost weight, got rid of her acne, got contacts, dyed her hair and got a FREAKIN nose job and had herself be called by a different name. How can these people think that exterminating every single aspect of yourself to become 'perfect' is good?

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Alright, instead of of the whole fiasco causing Quinn to get less votes, it causes her to get idolized by the overweight and homely female students. They treat her like a hero. It would have been different if she had just lost some weight and got the acne medication for health/appearence health/appearance purposes. But she got lost weight, got rid of her acne, got contacts, dyed her hair and got a FREAKIN nose job and had herself be called by a different name. How can these people think that exterminating every single aspect of yourself to become 'perfect' is good?



Sam colours his hair with lemon juice, why are both his siblings blond? Why does no one mention this?

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Sam colours colors his hair with lemon juice, why are both his siblings blond? Why does no one mention this?



* If he did, truely use lemon juice, it would have been impossible to go from brown hair to blond - this is some experience on my part. If you use lemon juice if you are blond - as I am - you may be glad if it turns your shade just a little lighter. So i would presume that he was blond to begin with.
** But Kurt accused Sam of being a bottle-blond, why would Kurt (the fashionsta) think Sam would use powerful damaging chemicals to lighten his hair half a shade?

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* If he did, truely truly use lemon juice, it would have been impossible to go from brown hair to blond - this is some experience on my part. If you use lemon juice if you are blond - as I am - you may be glad if it turns your shade just a little lighter. So i would presume that he was blond to begin with.
** But Kurt accused Sam of being a bottle-blond, why would Kurt (the fashionsta) fashionista) think Sam would use powerful damaging chemicals to lighten his hair half a shade?



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The whole point of Santana bearding and prom queen running was to get Britanny to be with her, instead of Artie. Also, in Sexy, Santana was ready to come out if she could be with Britanny, why would she give up that chance to continue to perpetuate the lie with Karofsky? (why would jewfro not follow santanas eyes, he's a reporter)

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The whole point of Santana bearding and prom queen running was to get Britanny Brittany to be with her, instead of Artie. Also, in Sexy, Santana was ready to come out if she could be with Britanny, Brittany, why would she give up that chance to continue to perpetuate the lie with Karofsky? (why would jewfro not follow santanas Santana's eyes, he's a reporter)




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*** Santana is a bitch and Brittany knows that and accepts that about her.



* He's Blaine. He has alot of concerns about standing out as a homosexual, but he has absolutely no concerns whatsoever to stand out as a performer.

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* He's Blaine. He has alot a lot of concerns about standing out as a homosexual, but he has absolutely no concerns whatsoever to stand out as a performer.



*** I can get behind that, but my original point that the writers sucked this one up still stands, I think. This explanation is way better than what was actually shown, and the writers' job is to show us, not tell us, what is happeneing, and they completely screwed that up here. Everything that we assume about this plot point is either told to us or we really do have to assume it. It would have been lovely if, as someone below pointed out, the writers had the kids mounting some sort of Facebook campaign in secret. That's perfectly plausible, and could have been worked in during the three-way contemplation time right after he was announced, as could have some of the extras whispering "oh shit, that wasn't as funny as we thought it was going to be" or something like that.

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*** I can get behind that, but my original point that the writers sucked this one up still stands, I think. This explanation is way better than what was actually shown, and the writers' job is to show us, not tell us, what is happeneing, happening, and they completely screwed that up here. Everything that we assume about this plot point is either told to us or we really do have to assume it. It would have been lovely if, as someone below pointed out, the writers had the kids mounting some sort of Facebook campaign in secret. That's perfectly plausible, and could have been worked in during the three-way contemplation time right after he was announced, as could have some of the extras whispering "oh shit, that wasn't as funny as we thought it was going to be" or something like that.



** Maybe the votes were rigged, ala ''Carrie''.

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** Maybe the votes were rigged, ala à la ''Carrie''.



* He would still need to take certain "core classes" like math, science, and english as well as other electives to get enough credits to graduate. Besides, it seems like he enrolled in those classes thinking that someone would automatically take the tests for him.

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* He would still need to take certain "core classes" like math, science, and english English as well as other electives to get enough credits to graduate. Besides, it seems like he enrolled in those classes thinking that someone would automatically take the tests for him.



* It's also entirely possible that Jesse is lying and the real reason is much more embarassing. It would make sense that he would lie about it since he is trying to get back into Rachel's pants.

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* It's also entirely possible that Jesse is lying and the real reason is much more embarassing.embarrassing. It would make sense that he would lie about it since he is trying to get back into Rachel's pants.




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*** Adele has sung both "shit" and "ship". Guess they chose the one that was broadcast TV friendly.






Why is Jesse consulting for ND when it's obvious he's biased toward one singer who is canonly only ''one'' of of the best, not ''the'' best in the club. If this wasn't clear to Mr. Shue before the solo auditions, it should have been after, once Jesse tore apart everyone's performances but Rachel's. Also, it seems to be common knowledge that he and Rachel are working toward resuming their previous relationship, which would normally raise a few eyebrows since he's got a position of authority in Glee Club.

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Why is Jesse consulting for ND when it's obvious he's biased toward one singer who is canonly only ''one'' of of the best, not ''the'' best in the club. If this wasn't clear to Mr. Shue before the solo auditions, it should have been after, once Jesse tore apart everyone's performances but Rachel's. Also, it seems to be common knowledge that he and Rachel are working toward resuming their previous relationship, which would normally raise a few eyebrows since he's got a position of authority in Glee Club.



** That doesn't explain the thing with Rachel. Jessse is now an adult who is employed by the highschool where Rachel is a student. Their relationship under those conditions sounds like an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Oooh, can we have [=UnStabler=] show up and haul Jesse off in cuffs?

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** That doesn't explain the thing with Rachel. Jessse Jesse is now an adult who is employed by the highschool high school where Rachel is a student. Their relationship under those conditions sounds like an episode of ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit''. Oooh, can we have [=UnStabler=] show up and haul Jesse off in cuffs?



* Becky willingly does what Sue asks. She's not being manipulated, she looks up to Sue and ''actually wants'' to do what she asks. As for Sue defining their relationship based on her sister, I think you might be misreading it. Yes, Becky was kicked off of Cheerios because she reminded Sue of Jean. That's an emotional reaction to Jean's death, and is understandable. ''However'' she is made Captain not because she reminds Sue of her sister, but because she reminds her of Jean in a ''specific way.'' Becky is utterly loyal to Sue, and as previously said, looks up to her. ''That's'' why she's head cheerleader, not because she has Down's.

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* Becky willingly does what Sue asks. She's not being manipulated, she looks up to Sue and ''actually wants'' to do what she asks. As for Sue defining their relationship based on her sister, I think you might be misreading it. Yes, Becky was kicked off of Cheerios because she reminded Sue of Jean. That's an emotional reaction to Jean's death, and is understandable. ''However'' she is made Captain not because she reminds Sue of her sister, but because she reminds her of Jean in a ''specific way.'' Becky is utterly loyal to Sue, and as previously said, looks up to her. ''That's'' why she's head cheerleader, not because she has Down's.Down Syndrome.



* I didn't mind Will and Mrs Jackson referring to her as Sue, but when the ND kids were talking about her, they kept using her first name. Haven't they always referred to her by her title of Coach? Since they didn't do it to her face, I don't find it particularly disrespectful, but it did seem odd.

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* I didn't mind Will and Mrs Mrs. Jackson referring to her as Sue, but when the ND kids were talking about her, they kept using her first name. Haven't they always referred to her by her title of Coach? Since they didn't do it to her face, I don't find it particularly disrespectful, but it did seem odd.
** Probably because they simply don't respect her so they feel no need to show respect, especially when she isn't around. She calls plenty of the glee kids by insulting nicknames so why would they need to call her by what she wants to be called?



*** I went to a daycare where the staff was called by their first names. At school, however, everyone was Mr, one of the female equivalents (most were called Miss whether they were married or not, but sometimes a non-married teacher would be called Mrs), or Coach if they referred themselves to as that (not all coaches were actually involved in any athletics). At school, when the students discussed teachers privately, it didn't matter if they absolutely hated them, they still referred to them as Title Surname. It wasn't so much a matter of respect as the fact that the teacher was firmly established in everyone's mind as Title Surname.

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*** I went to a daycare where the staff was called by their first names. At school, however, everyone was Mr, Mr., one of the female equivalents (most were called Miss whether they were married or not, but sometimes a non-married teacher would be called Mrs), Mrs.), or Coach if they referred themselves to as that (not all coaches were actually involved in any athletics). At school, when the students discussed teachers privately, it didn't matter if they absolutely hated them, they still referred to them as Title Surname. It wasn't so much a matter of respect as the fact that the teacher was firmly established in everyone's mind as Title Surname.



Sunshine's green card would have been issued by the ''US'' Citizenship and Immigration Services. The ''Philippine'' Embassy has no authority over visas issued by ''another country'''s immigration service; having been to the American Embassy or Consulate to the Philippines to interview for her student visa for her foreign exchange, she'd probably ''know'' it's the US that handles their immigration, not the Philippines. And even when visas are revoked, it's not like USCIS immediately tracks down the illegal immigrant for deportation in most cases (anecdata: I've overstayed a revoked visa by a week and immigration never tried to contact me).

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Sunshine's green card would have been issued by the ''US'' Citizenship and Immigration Services. The ''Philippine'' Embassy has no authority over visas issued by ''another country'''s country's'' immigration service; having been to the American Embassy or Consulate to the Philippines to interview for her student visa for her foreign exchange, she'd probably ''know'' it's the US that handles their immigration, not the Philippines. And even when visas are revoked, it's not like USCIS immediately tracks down the illegal immigrant for deportation in most cases (anecdata: I've overstayed a revoked visa by a week and immigration never tried to contact me).



*** You'll probably find that {{Double Standard}}s require at least one female chaperone, but there's no stipulation for a male on.

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** It's another example of how the show changed from the first 13 episodes. It had mentions of the setlist and working on what would be on it was somewhat of a plotpoint for nearly all the episodes. Which was then setting up Sue being able to get ahold of it and leaking it to the opposing glee clubs.

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** It's another example of how the show changed from the first 13 episodes. It had mentions of the setlist and working on what would be on it was somewhat of a plotpoint plot point for nearly all the episodes. Which was then setting up Sue being able to get ahold of it and leaking it to the opposing glee clubs.



What was it? To hope that Mr. Schuester confined them all to their hotel rooms and then to further hope that Rachel and Kurt would sneak out so that she could get them disqualified? If so then Sue would be sorely disappointed in her one time protege and her extreme lack of coherent planning skills.

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What was it? To hope that Mr. Schuester confined them all to their hotel rooms and then to further hope that Rachel and Kurt would sneak out so that she could get them disqualified? If so then Sue would be sorely disappointed in her one time protege protégé and her extreme lack of coherent planning skills.

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*** That's pretty much the entire point, Finn completely misuderstands religion and the idea of prayer in general.

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*** That's pretty much the entire point, Finn completely misuderstands misunderstands religion and the idea of prayer in general.



* I'm pretty sure Sue's attempts to get the Glee club to stop singing religious songs was, in part, an extension of her wanting to destroy the Glee club. However, it was also clearly done in an attempt to help a kid who, when asked, did tell her yes, he would like it done. And then, later, Emma demands Sue justify her attempts to help Kurt, defending the Glee kid's obnoxious, isolating attitude towards their friend's polite, firm request they don't shove their beliefs down his throat. Sue makes several good points, one of which is that Burt could die, and Emma really should be doing her job and helping him deal with that fact. Yes, prayer and faith can be wonderful for people who believe, and if Kurt did believe, Emma should definitely encourage his friends to use religion/faith to help him. However, whether he believes or not, whether she encourages prayer or not, she should be helping him come to terms with the very real fact his father could die. Also, since he doesn't believe and went as far as to accept a teacher's offer to try to help him get the club to stop pushing beliefs he's uncomfortable with at him, Emma, whatever her faith or lack of, should be doing what Sue, who is an athletic coach rather than a guidance counselor, is trying to do and get Kurt's friends to leave the emotionally devastated boy alone if they can't find some way to help him that he's comfortable with. Perhaps she could tell them to privately pray (as Puck did) and suggest some practical ways of showing support such as inviting him over for the night, bringing him food, offering to listen should he want to talk, or even just sitting quietly with him and holding his hand. I never thought I'd find an episode where I'd rush to Sue's defence or praise Puck, who did pray for Burt and Kurt but never once that I can remember tried to shove his beliefs onto Kurt or punish him for not accepting theism, but yeah, here I am. Sue and Puck were the heroes of episode, Kurt was let down numerous times by the people he'd come to emotionally rely on, Emma should've been fired, and the majority of ND was a good example of why many devoutly religious people are uncomfortable expressing their faith in public for fear they'll automatically be labelled intrusive, emotionally manipulative, and incapable of legitimately loving, or even just respecting, others due to supposed strings attached to that love/respect.
** To be fair, Sue isn't actually positioned as ther bad guy in the episode as a whole - it's just that there are certain characters (Mercedes and Emma particularly) who perceive her as such and say so, in fairly clear demonstrations of their religious privilege. The episode as a whole is largely non-judgmental toward Sue's actions, even giving her the final word in the argument with Emma, and Sue's increasingly positive relationship with Kurt in episodes following this one suggest that he appreciates her support of his wishes and they have achieved a certain level of mutual respect.
*** But it's a really confusing aesop(if they are trying to have one) as Kurt and Sue are the ones who learn to tolerate other people's religions, but no one really apologizes to Kurt for how they treated him.

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* I'm pretty sure Sue's attempts to get the Glee club to stop singing religious songs was, in part, an extension of her wanting to destroy the Glee club. However, it was also clearly done in an attempt to help a kid who, when asked, did tell her yes, he would like it done. And then, later, Emma demands Sue justify her attempts to help Kurt, defending the Glee kid's obnoxious, isolating attitude towards their friend's polite, firm request they don't shove their beliefs down his throat. Sue makes several good points, one of which is that Burt could die, and Emma really should be doing her job and helping him deal with that fact. Yes, prayer and faith can be wonderful for people who believe, and if Kurt did believe, Emma should definitely encourage his friends to use religion/faith to help him. However, whether he believes or not, whether she encourages prayer or not, she should be helping him come to terms with the very real fact his father could die. Also, since he doesn't believe and went as far as to accept a teacher's offer to try to help him get the club to stop pushing beliefs he's uncomfortable with at him, Emma, whatever her faith or lack of, should be doing what Sue, who is an athletic coach rather than a guidance counselor, is trying to do and get Kurt's friends to leave the emotionally devastated boy alone if they can't find some way to help him that he's comfortable with. Perhaps she could tell them to privately pray (as Puck did) and suggest some practical ways of showing support such as inviting him over for the night, bringing him food, offering to listen should he want to talk, or even just sitting quietly with him and holding his hand. I never thought I'd find an episode where I'd rush to Sue's defence defense or praise Puck, who did pray for Burt and Kurt but never once that I can remember tried to shove his beliefs onto Kurt or punish him for not accepting theism, but yeah, here I am. Sue and Puck were the heroes of episode, Kurt was let down numerous times by the people he'd come to emotionally rely on, Emma should've been fired, and the majority of ND was a good example of why many devoutly religious people are uncomfortable expressing their faith in public for fear they'll automatically be labelled intrusive, emotionally manipulative, and incapable of legitimately loving, or even just respecting, others due to supposed strings attached to that love/respect.
** To be fair, Sue isn't actually positioned as ther the bad guy in the episode as a whole - it's just that there are certain characters (Mercedes and Emma particularly) who perceive her as such and say so, in fairly clear demonstrations of their religious privilege. The episode as a whole is largely non-judgmental toward Sue's actions, even giving her the final word in the argument with Emma, and Sue's increasingly positive relationship with Kurt in episodes following this one suggest that he appreciates her support of his wishes and they have achieved a certain level of mutual respect.
*** But it's a really confusing aesop(if aesop (if they are trying to have one) as Kurt and Sue are the ones who learn to tolerate other people's religions, but no one really apologizes to Kurt for how they treated him.




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*** Why is she being portrayed as the bad guy? Because she is being the bad guy. Remember this is the same woman who in Season 1's "Showmance" dredged up an old rulebook that ''required'' that the glee club '''only''' sing religious songs. She doesn't really care about the issue. She is using the issue in another attempt to hurt the glee club.



* It's implied that Mike ''has never sung in public before now.'' He actually says that he's not sure he ''can'' sing. So what exactly has he been doing for the last year? Lip syncking? Rachel and her perfect pitch would have outed him long ago. For that matter, what did he do when Mr. Shue told everyone to prepare a solo in "Laryngitis"? And why did he join the glee club in the first place if he didn't want to sing? If he just wanted to dance, then he should have tried out for Cheerios.

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* It's implied that Mike ''has never sung in public before now.'' He actually says that he's not sure he ''can'' sing. So what exactly has he been doing for the last year? Lip syncking? syncing? Rachel and her perfect pitch would have outed him long ago. For that matter, what did he do when Mr. Shue told everyone to prepare a solo in "Laryngitis"? And why did he join the glee club in the first place if he didn't want to sing? If he just wanted to dance, then he should have tried out for Cheerios.



** What about the season 2 premere, when Sam introduced Sam to the other guys in New Direction, in their class room?

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** What about the season 2 premere, premiere, when Sam introduced Sam to the other guys in New Direction, in their class room?



* Finn says he doesn't have a problem with the fact that Kurt is gay, he has a problem with the fact that Kurt doesn't get that "no means no", which would be a legit point, but the only time Finn ever actually said "no" was in "Theatricality". The issue was always that Kurt was persistant and didn't respect Finn's boundaries, yes, but Finn always had trouble asserting those boundaries (For instance, in "Ballad" Kurt tells Finn he wants to sing "I Honestly Love You" to him, and instead of pointing out that it's innapropriate, Finn just says it's a nice song and looks uncomforable). It just seems kind of unfair to treat Kurt like a sex offender who was ignoring outright requests for him to stop and leave Finn alone when Finn barely ever bothered to say anything about it.

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* Finn says he doesn't have a problem with the fact that Kurt is gay, he has a problem with the fact that Kurt doesn't get that "no means no", which would be a legit point, but the only time Finn ever actually said "no" was in "Theatricality". The issue was always that Kurt was persistant persistent and didn't respect Finn's boundaries, yes, but Finn always had trouble asserting those boundaries (For instance, in "Ballad" Kurt tells Finn he wants to sing "I Honestly Love You" to him, and instead of pointing out that it's innapropriate, innappropriate, Finn just says it's a nice song and looks uncomforable). It just seems kind of unfair to treat Kurt like a sex offender who was ignoring outright requests for him to stop and leave Finn alone when Finn barely ever bothered to say anything about it.



*** It might not be court-worthy and Finn was probably hyperbolizing when he said that, but Kurt was still overstepping his boundaries. He mistook Finn's kindness for something deeper and didn't know when to back off when Finn didn't return the affection. And let's be real. Even if Finn ''was'' gay or bi, that's still [[TokenMinorityCouple no reason to date by itself]]. Finn was only nice to Kurt ''because he's a decent person.'' Kurt's behavior would still be creepy and stalkerish if Finn were gay; setting up the parents to date as a ploy to get closer to him just sounds like a subtle IHaveYouNowMyPretty (the look on Kurt's face when Burt and Carol announced they were dating only confirmed this). And by the way, it's a little silly to point out that gay people don't get off on ''themselves'', because that's just weird no matter which way you swing (narcissist much?).

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*** It might not be court-worthy and Finn was probably hyperbolizing when he said that, but Kurt was still overstepping his boundaries. He mistook Finn's kindness for something deeper and didn't know when to back off when Finn didn't return the affection. And let's be real. Even if Finn ''was'' gay or bi, that's still [[TokenMinorityCouple no reason to date by itself]]. Finn was only nice to Kurt ''because he's a decent person.'' Kurt's behavior would still be creepy and stalkerish stalker-ish if Finn were gay; setting up the parents to date as a ploy to get closer to him just sounds like a subtle IHaveYouNowMyPretty (the look on Kurt's face when Burt and Carol announced they were dating only confirmed this). And by the way, it's a little silly to point out that gay people don't get off on ''themselves'', because that's just weird no matter which way you swing (narcissist much?).



* I thought a transvestite was a girl dressed up as a boy or a boy dressed up as a girl. Not a girl dressed up as a girl. Maybe it counts cause Mercedes is playing a man who dresses up as a woman. It still just irritates me though. Yeah, sure she brought the house down...but why couldn't they had just gotten one of the boys to play Frank'n'furter so its right?

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* I thought a transvestite was a girl dressed up as a boy or a boy dressed up as a girl. Not a girl dressed up as a girl. Maybe it counts cause Mercedes is playing a man who dresses up as a woman. It still just irritates me though. Yeah, sure she brought the house down...but why couldn't they had just gotten one of the boys to play Frank'n'furter Frank-N-Furter so its right?



*** It is an unfortunate implication, but I could understand why Will might have first picked Kurt as Frank'n'furter. Frank'n'furter is pretty much the main character and gets to do a lot, so this might have been Will being nice to Kurt and giving him a bigger role in performances like he's been wanting since Defying Gravity. Also, if you had to cast the Glee club members as roles in Rocky Horror, would you really not pick Kurt first as this role? Artie had unfortunate implications pushed onto him too, but at least it wouldn't be out of place and he could have a role than something doing with the background.
** Even with an explaination for why Mercedes took the role, it's still odd that by changing the line 'I'm not much of a man' to 'I'm not much of a girl' in ''Sweet Transvestite'', they actually changed the character of Frank into a woman, instead of it being a woman playing a man's part. A woman playing a woman dressing as a woman... is not a transvestite in any shape or form.

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*** It is an unfortunate implication, but I could understand why Will might have first picked Kurt as Frank'n'furter. Frank'n'furter Frank-N-Furter. Frank-N-Furter is pretty much the main character and gets to do a lot, so this might have been Will being nice to Kurt and giving him a bigger role in performances like he's been wanting since Defying Gravity. Also, if you had to cast the Glee club members as roles in Rocky Horror, would you really not pick Kurt first as this role? Artie had unfortunate implications pushed onto him too, but at least it wouldn't be out of place and he could have a role than something doing with the background.
** Even with an explaination explanation for why Mercedes took the role, it's still odd that by changing the line 'I'm not much of a man' to 'I'm not much of a girl' in ''Sweet Transvestite'', they actually changed the character of Frank into a woman, instead of it being a woman playing a man's part. A woman playing a woman dressing as a woman... is not a transvestite in any shape or form.



*** In modern parlance, transsexual is not as appropriate a word, sometimes considered a slur. "Transgender" is considered more proper. Even as the name of the planet, it may invite controversy.



**** Tuition assistance is generally limited to people who are quite a bit poorer than the Hudson/Hummel family.




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*** Bieste, being a champion coach, may have connections among rehab trainers and physical therapists who could get it for her.



** He didn't spend Christmas there, for the same reason he din't spent it with friends. Because the plot said so (also, I am not sure if they live nearby, they could had moved to another town or something).
*** That didn't stop them from coming to see Will perform in Acafella's. He could have easily made plans to visit them for the holidays, espcially since teachers get such a long winter vacation to begin with.

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** He didn't spend Christmas there, for the same reason he din't didn't spent it with friends. Because the plot said so (also, I am not sure if they live nearby, they could had moved to another town or something).
*** That didn't stop them from coming to see Will perform in Acafella's. He could have easily made plans to visit them for the holidays, espcially especially since teachers get such a long winter vacation to begin with.




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** It would be foolhardy for only one person to be training to do a solo. Just like real choirs and plays, each solo probably has an understudy.




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** No, it wouldn't fly in any court. But Sue doesn't really care about that anyway and just hopes to bully people into doing what she wants.



*** Yeah, but I think that high school kids being dumb is the actual point. It seems the writers are taking those characters that have so far been shown to have less in the catagory of unsympathetic (or hell, just MEAN) actions, and showing them to have just as many flaws as the rest of the bunch. Let's review: Quinn's a cheater, Rachel's such a diva she'll go to no ends to be the star, Kurt pursued the obviously straight Finn even though it was not going to happen, Puck's a ho, Santana's a bitch, Tina's way crazy breaking down over Mike, Finn can't figure out who the hell he wants - about the only one left who hasn't done something really mean or just kind of crazy is Brittany, and, let's face it, she's the sweet dumb bunny. I think the writers are trying to drive home the point that these folks are flawed, every one of them. Which, if one stops to think, makes them real. Real people are flawed.

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*** Quinn may have the excuse that she got caught up in a crush/another love. Rachel did it specifically to hurt and punish Finn for actions he took while he and Rachel weren't even in a relationship.
*** Yeah, but I think that high school kids being dumb is the actual point. It seems the writers are taking those characters that have so far been shown to have less in the catagory category of unsympathetic (or hell, just MEAN) actions, and showing them to have just as many flaws as the rest of the bunch. Let's review: Quinn's a cheater, Rachel's such a diva she'll go to no ends to be the star, Kurt pursued the obviously straight Finn even though it was not going to happen, Puck's a ho, Santana's a bitch, Tina's way crazy breaking down over Mike, Finn can't figure out who the hell he wants - about the only one left who hasn't done something really mean or just kind of crazy is Brittany, and, let's face it, she's the sweet dumb bunny. I think the writers are trying to drive home the point that these folks are flawed, every one of them. Which, if one stops to think, makes them real. Real people are flawed.



** Also in his mind ''he's'' not the one that's cheating since he's not the one in a comitted relationship, so it's easy for him to justify his actions. This doesn't make it any less ''wrong'', but it does help explain his actions.

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** Also in his mind ''he's'' not the one that's cheating since he's not the one in a comitted committed relationship, so it's easy for him to justify his actions. This doesn't make it any less ''wrong'', but it does help explain his actions.



Wait, wouldn't Kurt know that, seeing as they rode there together? Or did he mean he was driving the ten other gleeks home?
* Considering that Kurt din't even was properly invited to the party, is likely that the designated driver was chosen when he wasn't around, possibly is something related with other parties. Besides, Finn is (usually) the NiceGuy, so it makes sense that the role would land on him.
** From his little speech to Rachel, I kind of figured that Finn didn't even really ''want'' to drink. He seemed like he was enjoying watching the others act like idiots more than he would've enjoyed being drunk himself.
*** Take it from me, that's a ton of fun by itself... until you have to drive those drunk people home.

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* Wait, wouldn't Kurt know that, seeing as they rode there together? Or did he mean he was driving the ten other gleeks home?
* ** Considering that Kurt din't didn't even was properly invited to the party, is likely that the designated driver was chosen when he wasn't around, possibly is something related with other parties. Besides, Finn is (usually) the NiceGuy, so it makes sense that the role would land on him.
** *** From his little speech to Rachel, I kind of figured that Finn didn't even really ''want'' to drink. He seemed like he was enjoying watching the others act like idiots more than he would've enjoyed being drunk himself.
*** **** Take it from me, that's a ton of fun by itself... until you have to drive those drunk people home.



* I'm fairly sure that was PlayedForLaughs. He probably realises what goes on but isn't aware of the intricacies needed to be able to have 'the talk' with Kurt.

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* I'm fairly sure that was PlayedForLaughs. He probably realises realizes what goes on but isn't aware of the intricacies needed to be able to have 'the talk' with Kurt.



!!The Land Of Innapropriacy
A male school teacher is essentially saying to his students "Okay, teenage boys and girls- one of whom has been known to make seuxal advances on me before- promise me that if you are ever drunk, alone and vulnerable at 3AM, you will call me. I will come and... 'help' you. Especially after the previous Glee Club director was fired for suspected sexual assault of a minor, was I the only person who was surprised this was portrayed as an okay thing?
* And look at how Sam reacts... anyway, it would be perfectly comprehensible if Will ran those with the parents before, or is planning to call the parents once the students call him.
** Sam's reaction was dripping with sarcasm, like "oh wow, I got my teachers cell number, now I am complete". As simply a teacher I would see it as odd but being an extra curricular coach, quite often this is a practice. I had my Volleyball and track and drama coaches numbers.
* Different schools have different ideas on appropriateness. In this troper's school, all the teachers gave out cell phone/home phone/email addresses to the students, and one teacher did actually tell the class that she had picked up a kid at 3 in the morning once and would do so again if called. The school I went is the same one my family has gone to since the 30's/50's, and even when the youngest of my older family members went, teachers did not give out personal information. If a student had called them, the student would probably get in trouble for prank calling.
** Not to mention different teachers. Will is the type of teacher to give out his cell number and go out on a limb for his students like that.
* Some schools may also -require- teachers to give out that information. I could see, based on the previous Glee club teacher incident, that [=McKinley=] would try to cultivate better communication between teachers and students so that if another incident happens there is someone the student can call and feel safe talking to, instead of banning that sort of communication and basically creating a culture of "Fear your teachers. They want to hurt you." and fostering a parents versus teacher shift-the-blame environment.

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!!The Land Of Innapropriacy
Innapropriateness
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A male school teacher is essentially saying to his students "Okay, teenage boys and girls- one of whom has been known to make seuxal sexual advances on me before- promise me that if you are ever drunk, alone and vulnerable at 3AM, you will call me. I will come and... 'help' you. Especially after the previous Glee Club director was fired for suspected sexual assault of a minor, was I the only person who was surprised this was portrayed as an okay thing?
* ** And look at how Sam reacts... anyway, it would be perfectly comprehensible if Will ran those with the parents before, or is planning to call the parents once the students call him.
** *** Sam's reaction was dripping with sarcasm, like "oh wow, I got my teachers cell number, now I am complete". As simply a teacher I would see it as odd but being an extra curricular coach, quite often this is a practice. I had my Volleyball and track and drama coaches numbers.
* **** This. As their glee club leader, Will is their chaperone for most trips. They would have to be able to contact him and he them.
**
Different schools have different ideas on appropriateness. In this troper's school, all the teachers gave out cell phone/home phone/email addresses to the students, and one teacher did actually tell the class that she had picked up a kid at 3 in the morning once and would do so again if called. The school I went is the same one my family has gone to since the 30's/50's, and even when the youngest of my older family members went, teachers did not give out personal information. If a student had called them, the student would probably get in trouble for prank calling.
** *** Not to mention different teachers. Will is the type of teacher to give out his cell number and go out on a limb for his students like that.
* ** Some schools may also -require- teachers to give out that information. I could see, based on the previous Glee club teacher incident, that [=McKinley=] would try to cultivate better communication between teachers and students so that if another incident happens there is someone the student can call and feel safe talking to, instead of banning that sort of communication and basically creating a culture of "Fear your teachers. They want to hurt you." and fostering a parents versus teacher shift-the-blame environment.
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I get that Brittany isn't the brightest, most forward thinking of the Glee kids, but why did she bug Santana to come to terms with their relationship if, regardless of Santana's answer, she was going to stay with Artie? It was sort of a hurtful thing that I didn't expect from Brittany.
* She was still with Santana even when she was with Artie, so they still had a relationship. Also, Britt's had relationship issues with Santana since before she went out with Artie.
* Brittany couldn't have known that she would hurt Santana, because she didn't know that Santana was in love with her. Which was the problem in the first place: Santana never wanted to talk about what they were doing. Brittany didn't need for Santana to acknowledge that they were in a relationship, she just needed to talk about it.
* Don't forget that Rachel complimented Santana and Brittany on basically coming out and Santana denied their relationship. Brittany might not be the brightes but there comes a time where anyone reaches their limit.

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* I get that Brittany isn't the brightest, most forward thinking of the Glee kids, but why did she bug Santana to come to terms with their relationship if, regardless of Santana's answer, she was going to stay with Artie? It was sort of a hurtful thing that I didn't expect from Brittany.
* ** She was still with Santana even when she was with Artie, so they still had a relationship. Also, Britt's had relationship issues with Santana since before she went out with Artie.
* ** Brittany couldn't have known that she would hurt Santana, because she didn't know that Santana was in love with her. Which was the problem in the first place: Santana never wanted to talk about what they were doing. Brittany didn't need for Santana to acknowledge that they were in a relationship, she just needed to talk about it.
* ** Don't forget that Rachel complimented Santana and Brittany on basically coming out and Santana denied their relationship. Brittany might not be the brightes brightest but there comes a time where anyone reaches their limit.



** Kurt doesn't really seem to be into modern broadway musicals as much as the classics. While it ''is'' true that older musicals do touch on this thing, most don't do it blatantly. I can think of [[Theatre/PromisesPromises a few exceptions,]] but for the most part, the ones that are really famous really are a touch of the fingertips.

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** Kurt doesn't really seem to be into modern broadway Broadway musicals as much as the classics. While it ''is'' true that older musicals do touch on this thing, most don't do it blatantly. I can think of [[Theatre/PromisesPromises a few exceptions,]] but for the most part, the ones that are really famous really are a touch of the fingertips.



Why did Schu take it on himself to teach the kids about sex (by having an attractive blonde woman take her clothes off? He's a singing coach. Surely that isn't his job and someone should have stopped him.

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Why did Mr. Schu take it on himself to teach the kids about sex (by having an attractive blonde woman take her clothes off? He's a singing coach. Surely that isn't his job and someone should have stopped him.



When Blaine stops by the car shop to talk to Burt about giving 'The Talk' to Kurt, at the very beginning of the conversation, Burt asks Blaine to hand him the carburetor from the bench. Blaine grabs the right piece and hands it to him, and Burt says something a long the lines of 'How did you know that was the right part?' Uh, Burt. Your own kid is JUST as flamboyant as Blaine, if not more so. He also knows his way around cars- why is it so shocking that Blaine does as well?
* Because he raised Kurt and not Blaine, so Kurt naturally spent his early life around cars. Besides, take a look at Blaine- well-dressed, well-spoken, nice hair, and he goes to Dalton- not a very blue-collar kind of guy. Burt himself said at one point that it strained his family's finances to send Kurt there, so presumably most Dalton students are very well-off. Most rich kids wouldn't do their own auto work, they'd hire someone like Burt to do it for them. So Burt probably figured Blaine just had enough money not to have to spend any time working on a car with his own hands.

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* When Blaine stops by the car shop to talk to Burt about giving 'The Talk' to Kurt, at the very beginning of the conversation, Burt asks Blaine to hand him the carburetor from the bench. Blaine grabs the right piece and hands it to him, and Burt says something a long the lines of 'How did you know that was the right part?' Uh, Burt. Your own kid is JUST as flamboyant as Blaine, if not more so. He also knows his way around cars- why is it so shocking that Blaine does as well?
* ** Because he raised Kurt and not Blaine, so Kurt naturally spent his early life around cars. Besides, take a look at Blaine- well-dressed, well-spoken, nice hair, and he goes to Dalton- not a very blue-collar kind of guy. Burt himself said at one point that it strained his family's finances to send Kurt there, so presumably most Dalton students are very well-off. Most rich kids wouldn't do their own auto work, they'd hire someone like Burt to do it for them. So Burt probably figured Blaine just had enough money not to have to spend any time working on a car with his own hands.



** And it might be a tad petty, but singing blackbird, a song about a ''black bird'' to a ''yellow'' canary is a little off.

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** And it might be a tad petty, but singing blackbird, "Blackbird", a song about a ''black bird'' to a ''yellow'' canary is a little off.
*** I would find it difficult to determine another song about birds that would be even partially appropriate for a funeral.



Despite it apparently being a vote, who else could possibly have won but the lead singer of both numbers? It's a little bit pre-determined by who Will deciedes to put out front each time, assuming that it even comes back again.
* Well, the original song thing was Rachel's idea, so they might not have won had she not proposed the idea.
* Heh, it might have been something everyone agreed behind Rachel's back, as she was geniunely surprised(and moved) by the trophy. It might have been their way of saying 2Sorry we were being jerks about the whole original songs idea before"

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* Despite it apparently being a vote, who else could possibly have won but the lead singer of both numbers? It's a little bit pre-determined by who Will deciedes decides to put out front each time, assuming that it even comes back again.
* ** Well, the original song thing was Rachel's idea, so they might not have won had she not proposed the idea.
* ** Heh, it might have been something everyone agreed behind Rachel's back, as she was geniunely genuinely surprised(and moved) by the trophy. It might have been their way of saying 2Sorry we were being jerks about the whole original songs idea before"



When the results are announced, Sue punches the presenter, who is the governor's wife (?), yet [[KarmaHoudini suffers no consequences for it]]. In the most remotely realistic of settings, she would have been arrested at the very least, or sued, or both. Of course, the Glee universe is not even the most remotely realistic of settings, so never mind.

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* When the results are announced, Sue punches the presenter, who is the governor's wife (?), yet [[KarmaHoudini suffers no consequences for it]]. In the most remotely realistic of settings, she would have been arrested at the very least, or sued, or both. Of course, the Glee universe is not even the most remotely realistic of settings, so never mind.



Kurt is singing a song in remembrance of Pavarotti, and it's right there that Blaine realizes that he has feelings for Kurt. Later he says (while Kurt decorates Pavarotti's casket); "There is a moment where you say to yourself; oh there you are, I've been looking for you forever. And watching you perform Blackbird was the moment for me." Is it just me who finds it kind of creepy that Blaine realized that he had feelings for Kurt, when Kurt was mourning his pet bird's death?

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* Kurt is singing a song in remembrance of Pavarotti, and it's right there that Blaine realizes that he has feelings for Kurt. Later he says (while Kurt decorates Pavarotti's casket); "There is a moment where you say to yourself; oh there you are, I've been looking for you forever. And watching you perform Blackbird was the moment for me." Is it just me who finds it kind of creepy that Blaine realized that he had feelings for Kurt, when Kurt was mourning his pet bird's death?



I know this line wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but one of the competition judges says that she won't stand for two boys singing together, in reference to Kurt and Blaine. As it turns out, though, Dalton is a BOYS' SCHOOL, and therefore there are NO FEMALE WARBLERS,so what exactly was she expecting them to do?

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* I know this line wasn't meant to be taken seriously, but one of the competition judges says that she won't stand for two boys singing together, in reference to Kurt and Blaine. As it turns out, though, Dalton is a BOYS' SCHOOL, and therefore there are NO FEMALE WARBLERS,so WARBLERS, so what exactly was she expecting them to do?
** Solos? Ensembles?
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** OP here. I spent '''five''' minutes reading King's Island's official website before making that post, plus I've actually been to the park multiple times as a child and an adult. They close in the winter. They did Winterfest ''once'' in 2005 after not having done it since 1992. It's entirely possible that Glee!King's Island still does Winterfest, but the cynic in me cant help but think the writers never even heard of it and fell back on {{Socalization}}.

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** OP here. I spent '''five''' minutes reading King's Island's official website before making that post, plus I've actually been to the park multiple times as a child and an adult. They close in the winter. They did Winterfest ''once'' in 2005 after not having done it since 1992. It's entirely possible that Glee!King's Island still does Winterfest, but the cynic in me cant help but think the writers never even heard of it and fell back on {{Socalization}}.HollywoodProvincialism.



** We have a trope for that: SoCalization. Age of Consent in all of televisionland is 18.

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** We have a trope for that: SoCalization.HollywoodProvincialism. Age of Consent in all of televisionland is 18.
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*** Kurt never tried to look at Finn in the shower, though. He's been shown to be a romantic seeking an emotional connection. Finn was assuming AllGaysArePromiscuous and AllMenPerverts, but at this point Kurt would be happy just to hold hands with someone. Just because he was sexually attracted to Finn doesn't mean he was lecherously ogling him and ready to jump his bones at any second. That's not how his crush was portrayed at all.

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*** Kurt never tried to look at Finn in the shower, though. He's been shown to be a romantic seeking an emotional connection. Finn was assuming AllGaysArePromiscuous and AllMenPerverts, AllMenArePerverts, but at this point Kurt would be happy just to hold hands with someone. Just because he was sexually attracted to Finn doesn't mean he was lecherously ogling him and ready to jump his bones at any second. That's not how his crush was portrayed at all.



** ComplelyMissingThePoint. Will just made the swap so that he could get Emma back.

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** ComplelyMissingThePoint.CompletelyMissingThePoint. Will just made the swap so that he could get Emma back.



*** Coach Beiste is a lot like Sue with her reputation for winning (albeit without the jerkassery). I would assume between money and connections it would be hard, but not impossible for her to get ahold of a ReWalk and have it shipped to Brittany's house before school lets out for the holiday

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*** Coach Beiste is a lot like Sue with her reputation for winning (albeit without the jerkassery). I would assume between money and connections it would be hard, but not impossible for her to get ahold of a ReWalk [=ReWalk=] and have it shipped to Brittany's house before school lets out for the holiday



** I've just done a brief bit of research into ReWalks - they're still undergoing clinical trials, and will be until about December this year. Beiste shouldn't have been able to buy one at all, and even if she could, I can't begin to imagine how much that would cost.

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** I've just done a brief bit of research into ReWalks [=ReWalks=] - they're still undergoing clinical trials, and will be until about December this year. Beiste shouldn't have been able to buy one at all, and even if she could, I can't begin to imagine how much that would cost.



** Anyone who commits fundamental breach of trust in a relationship, should expect stronger language than "stupid" from the wronged party. Unless the expectation is that Artie is meant to be Jesus Christ himself, it's somewhat unreasonable to expect his response in the situation to be ''calm explanation''. If the argument is that Brittany is faultless because she didn't understand that she was cheating, then the same argument exempts Artie from blame (since how was he supposed to know that run-of-the-mill insult was going to [[BerzerkButton wound her so deeply?]]). Lastly, calling someone who's just confessed to cheating on you because the other woman said it was ok "stupid" is more an accurate assessment of the situation than a cheap shot. There is no "you automatically lose the fight because you were insulting rule" That's not how the world works. If it was, then being a KarmaHoudini would be as simple as making sure all your actions were horrible enough for people to call you names.

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** Anyone who commits fundamental breach of trust in a relationship, should expect stronger language than "stupid" from the wronged party. Unless the expectation is that Artie is meant to be Jesus Christ himself, it's somewhat unreasonable to expect his response in the situation to be ''calm explanation''. If the argument is that Brittany is faultless because she didn't understand that she was cheating, then the same argument exempts Artie from blame (since how was he supposed to know that run-of-the-mill insult was going to [[BerzerkButton [[BerserkButton wound her so deeply?]]). Lastly, calling someone who's just confessed to cheating on you because the other woman said it was ok "stupid" is more an accurate assessment of the situation than a cheap shot. There is no "you automatically lose the fight because you were insulting rule" That's not how the world works. If it was, then being a KarmaHoudini would be as simple as making sure all your actions were horrible enough for people to call you names.
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JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs. Kurt, clearly the OnlySaneMan, did the reasonable thing and blew it out. Then again, he also thought that [[YouFailBiologyForever acupuncture would get his dad out of a coma.]]

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JustForFun/TelevisionIsTryingToKillUs. Kurt, clearly the OnlySaneMan, did the reasonable thing and blew it out. Then again, he also thought that [[YouFailBiologyForever [[ArtisticLicenseBiology acupuncture would get his dad out of a coma.]]

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