History Headscratchers / Free

29th Mar '15 10:21:13 AM Raconteur11037
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** You answered your own question. Sousuke insisted on it and Rin didn't allow him until the rest of the team chimed in. Viewers would have called him an asshole if he didn't let Sousuke join and you might have realized by now that Free is more about emotions than bothering by the book, for better or worse. My problem is that Sousuke didn't tell Rin that this was going to be a problem until the very last minute, with the reason being "because I knew you'd cry". That's nice and all, but didn't he realize he would possibly be causing even more problems for his friend when even lifting his arm was too difficult?
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** You answered your own question. Sousuke insisted on it and Rin didn't allow him until the rest of the team chimed in. Viewers would have called him an asshole if he didn't let Sousuke join and you might have realized by now that Free is more about emotions than bothering by the book, for better or worse. My problem is that Sousuke didn't tell Rin that this was going to be a problem until the very last minute, with the reason being "because I knew you'd cry". That's nice and all, but didn't he realize he would possibly be causing even more problems for his friend when even lifting his arm was too difficult?difficult? *The real question we all want answered: why don't they have nipples?
28th Dec '14 5:16:35 PM CannedNoodles
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* Ok, Rin, I know you wanted to fulfill Sosukes wish and all and Sosuke insisted on it... but WHY THE HECK [[spoiler: would you allow a severly injured swimmer on your team in a very important race, not only risking your teams' chances but above all the swimmers health?]] You are supposed to be responsible and all that and while I get why you allowed it from an emotional standpoint I would have really apprechiated you to use your brain too. ... Also, did Rin ever face any consequences? As I said, he's the captain, he's on some level very responsible for them, so... was he ever held accountable for that stunt by his school or did they just say "Well, at least he didn't spontaneously swap teams, so we'll let it slide."
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** Haru can take care of himself, but it is sad how it looks like it has affected him emotionally. * Ok, Rin, I know you wanted to fulfill Sosukes wish and all and Sosuke insisted on it... but WHY THE HECK [[spoiler: would you allow a severly injured swimmer on your team in a very important race, not only risking your teams' chances but above all the swimmers health?]] You are supposed to be responsible and all that and while I get why you allowed it from an emotional standpoint I would have really apprechiated you to use your brain too. ... Also, did Rin ever face any consequences? As I said, he's the captain, he's on some level very responsible for them, so... was he ever held accountable for that stunt by his school or did they just say "Well, at least he didn't spontaneously swap teams, so we'll let it slide."" ** You answered your own question. Sousuke insisted on it and Rin didn't allow him until the rest of the team chimed in. Viewers would have called him an asshole if he didn't let Sousuke join and you might have realized by now that Free is more about emotions than bothering by the book, for better or worse. My problem is that Sousuke didn't tell Rin that this was going to be a problem until the very last minute, with the reason being "because I knew you'd cry". That's nice and all, but didn't he realize he would possibly be causing even more problems for his friend when even lifting his arm was too difficult?
26th Sep '14 7:49:38 AM Siberianchan
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* Regarding Haru's home situation, is leaving a teenager to practically fend for themselves illegal in Japan? Haru mentions his parents only once and no one else says anything about their absence.
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* Regarding Haru's home situation, is leaving a teenager to practically fend for themselves illegal in Japan? Haru mentions his parents only once and no one else says anything about their absence.absence. * Ok, Rin, I know you wanted to fulfill Sosukes wish and all and Sosuke insisted on it... but WHY THE HECK [[spoiler: would you allow a severly injured swimmer on your team in a very important race, not only risking your teams' chances but above all the swimmers health?]] You are supposed to be responsible and all that and while I get why you allowed it from an emotional standpoint I would have really apprechiated you to use your brain too. ... Also, did Rin ever face any consequences? As I said, he's the captain, he's on some level very responsible for them, so... was he ever held accountable for that stunt by his school or did they just say "Well, at least he didn't spontaneously swap teams, so we'll let it slide."
31st Jul '14 8:31:58 PM ultrawolf
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** Well, there is one scene where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít find it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of the names or something when she was younger, so the former two boys probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
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** Well, there is one scene where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít find it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of the names or something when she was younger, so the former two boys probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).her). * Regarding Haru's home situation, is leaving a teenager to practically fend for themselves illegal in Japan? Haru mentions his parents only once and no one else says anything about their absence.
25th Apr '14 5:44:19 AM Miumia
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** Well, there is one scene where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
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** Well, there is one scene where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found find it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of them the names or something when she was younger, so the former two boys probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
23rd Apr '14 9:29:27 AM Miumia
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** Well, there is one time where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
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** Well, there is one time scene where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guessing she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
22nd Apr '14 4:04:57 PM Miumia
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** Well, there is one time where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guess she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
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** Well, there is one time where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guess guessing she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
22nd Apr '14 9:33:09 AM Miumia
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* Maybe this is just ValuesDissonance, but the treatment given to the whole Kou/Gou thing just sits poorly with me. What's the deal with that? Is it a matter of respecting the name her parents gave her? As someone who's called by my birth name rather than my preferred name all the time, it's pretty hideous. But it just drops out of the story entirely without any explanation - she asks them to refer to her as Kou, they don't, and it vanishes. What the hell?
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* Maybe this is just ValuesDissonance, but the treatment given to the whole Kou/Gou thing just sits poorly with me. What's the deal with that? Is it a matter of respecting the name her parents gave her? As someone who's called by my birth name rather than my preferred name all the time, it's pretty hideous. But it just drops out of the story entirely without any explanation - she asks them to refer to her as Kou, they don't, and it vanishes. What the hell?hell? ** Well, there is one time where she is going to correct them and gives up because it got tiring (''"Itís Kou--ah, nevermindÖ"''). From that moment on she just stopped asking. I think the whole "Call me Kou!" thing was more intended as RuleOfFunny than it came off as; I believe Gou/Kou didn't actually hate being called Gou, she just didnít found it to be girly enough (seeing as Nagisa and Makoto called her Gou and Haruka called her Kou, Iím guess she used to alternate between both of them or something when she was younger, so the former two probably didnít think it mattered all that much to her).
4th Jan '14 2:53:27 PM CannedNoodles
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*** Demanding others to take responsibility is what I was referring to in that first part about expecting others to take responsibility. But honestly, if Rei has no problem ''starting a physical confrontation'' with Rin (with no apologies or backing down), how is Rei's choice at all about him being deferential to a senior? He certainly didn't care about smoothing things over then. I think the idea that the discontent perceived to be Japanese-Western ValuesDissonance is more from not looking at the entire picture, as well as making broad strokes about Japanese culture.
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*** Demanding others to take responsibility is what I was referring to in that first part about expecting others to take responsibility. But honestly, if Rei has no problem ''starting a physical confrontation'' with Rin (with no apologies or backing down), how is Rei's choice at all about him being deferential to a senior? He certainly didn't care about smoothing things over then.then, and as mentioned above Rei had other reasons for what he did. I think the idea that the discontent perceived to be Japanese-Western ValuesDissonance is more from not looking at the entire picture, as well as making broad strokes about Japanese culture.
4th Jan '14 2:37:56 PM CannedNoodles
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*** Rei does call out the group for that, but that was when he still thought Rin was some sort of bad guy trying to mess with their heads by joining the relay. The second confrontation between Rin and Rei, where Rei got a better understanding of Rin, most likely had a part in Rei's decision. It wasn't just to placate Haru, and if it was enormous pressure he was feeling, it would be from himself because no one else pushed him to do anything. And Rin wasn't screaming to make them accept them into the relay, so I don't think that's an apt comparison either. He was even angry at first that Haru went to seek him out. There have been interviews/notes that say that even if Rei wanted to swim with them, he still felt like a part of them during that relay and didn't regret anything. If it becomes a plot point in the second season, that would be pretty redundant because ever since Rei joined the club, the others have always tried to make him feel included. Why wouldn't he want to give back to them for that? Sure, people don't have to like the decision, but it's still important to recognize how it was being deliberately framed as opposed to personal interpretation.
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*** Rei does call out the group for that, but that was when he still thought Rin was some sort of bad guy trying to mess with their heads by joining the relay. The second confrontation between Rin and Rei, where Rei got a better understanding of Rin, most likely had a part in Rei's decision. It wasn't just to placate Haru, and if it was enormous pressure he was feeling, it would be from himself because no one else pushed him to do anything. And Rin wasn't screaming to make them accept them into the relay, so I don't think that's an apt comparison either. He was even angry at first that Haru went to seek him out. out, and by the time he said he wanted to swim with them, they already made the decision. There have been interviews/notes that say that even if Rei wanted to swim with them, he still felt like a part of them during that relay and didn't regret anything. If it becomes a plot point in the second season, that would be pretty redundant because ever since Rei joined the club, the others have always tried to make him feel included. Why wouldn't he want to give back to them for that? And when he talked to/about Rin, he clearly had empathy for him. I think it takes away from Rei's decision by trying to frame it like he was pressured into it by his friends or any social mores, when it's more about how compassionate he can be and how grateful he is to his friends. Sure, people don't have to like the decision, but it's still important to recognize how it was being deliberately framed as opposed to personal interpretation.

*** Demanding others to take responsibility is what I was referring to. But honestly, if Rei has no problem ''starting a physical confrontation'' with Rin (with no apologies or backing down), how is Rei's choice at all about him being deferential to a senior? He certainly didn't care about smoothing things over then. I think the idea that the discontent perceived to be Japanese-Western ValuesDissonance is more from not looking at the entire picture.
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*** Demanding others to take responsibility is what I was referring to.to in that first part about expecting others to take responsibility. But honestly, if Rei has no problem ''starting a physical confrontation'' with Rin (with no apologies or backing down), how is Rei's choice at all about him being deferential to a senior? He certainly didn't care about smoothing things over then. I think the idea that the discontent perceived to be Japanese-Western ValuesDissonance is more from not looking at the entire picture.picture, as well as making broad strokes about Japanese culture.
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