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*** Besides, he may have cried offscreen.
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***** I obviously meant ''after'' they were married.
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**** She's dying and doing it ''for her child''. How can you possibly ''not'' feel sorry for her after that?
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**** She's dying and doing it ''for her child''. How can you possibly ''not'' feel sorry for her after that?that? And she never treated Forrest "like dirt", at least after they both became adults. Her behavior towards Forrest was avoidant. It was pretty clear that she always saw Forrest as the one good thing in her life, but also something that was ''too'' good, a goodness she did not think that she deserved.
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**** Urm, that one time they had sex, a condom was not likely to have been involved, seeing as ''Jenny got pregnant''. (And if one was involved it obviously didn't work!)
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** There's no sure thing with STDs. Even having unprotected sex with someone who has AIDS will not guarentee that you get it. it.
*** The risk for an uninfected man contracting HIV from an infected woman in a single sexual encounter is actually ''less than one percent''. (And in fact probably much less than that). Though it is of course still possible to get infected from a single exposure, most of the time people get infected as a result of multiple exposures from a continuing pattern of high risk behavior.
*** The risk for an uninfected man contracting HIV from an infected woman in a single sexual encounter is actually ''less than one percent''. (And in fact probably much less than that). Though it is of course still possible to get infected from a single exposure, most of the time people get infected as a result of multiple exposures from a continuing pattern of high risk behavior.
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**** She's dying and doing it ''for her child''. How can you possibly ''not'' feel sorry for her after that?
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** There's no sure thing with STDs. Even having unprotected sex with someone who has AIDS will not guarentee that you get it.
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*** Possibly. It still pisses me off, though, because Jenny didn't deserve it and his mother did.
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** We root for him because he is a good-hearted person.
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**** True enough, although even advocates will tell you that condoms aren't 100 percent effective. My interpretation, though, was that since we see Jenny working at a diner to support Forrest Jr., we're supposed to assume she's making her money by legitimate means, and that she did indeed contract HIV during her partying days.
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**** I wouldn't be surprised if she spent some time as a prostitute to support herself and caught it then. As for sex with Forrest, there is this wonderful little thing called a condom that is supposed to help with such matters.
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**** I wouldn't be surprised if she spent some time as a prostitute to support herself later in life and caught it then. As for sex with Forrest, there is this wonderful little thing called a condom that is supposed to help with such matters.
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**** I wouldn't be surprised if she spent some time as a prostitute to support herself and caught it then. As for sex with Forrest, there is this wonderful little thing called a condom that is supposed to help with such matters.
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* Why was Forrest not all that famous? He won the Medal of Honor, spoke in a rally, ping pong made him a "national celebrity", and he was a tycoon who established hospitals, churches, and so forth; why were the news programs reporting his HeroicBSOD run merely referring to him as 'a gardener from Greenbow, Alabama'? Why not 'former tycoon', ''70s ping pong sensation', or, heck, 'Vietnam war veteran', which would surely make his running act more dramatic and politicized?
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* Why was Forrest not all that famous? He won [[strike:won]] was awarded the Medal of Honor, spoke in a rally, ping pong made him a "national celebrity", and he was a tycoon who established hospitals, churches, and so forth; why were the news programs reporting his HeroicBSOD run merely referring to him as 'a gardener from Greenbow, Alabama'? Why not 'former tycoon', ''70s ping pong sensation', or, heck, 'Vietnam war veteran', which would surely make his running act more dramatic and politicized?
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** That's a good point. By some point in the film, the news media should have caught on, considering he was also a star football player and also met several presidents.
** Also, he didn't "win" the Medal of Honor. It was awarded to him. I know, it's a minor difference, one that even some military people use incorrectly, but you don't win medals in the military aside from those won in some sort of competition.
** Also, he didn't "win" the Medal of Honor. It was awarded to him. I know, it's a minor difference, one that even some military people use incorrectly, but you don't win medals in the military aside from those won in some sort of competition.
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* Why was Forrest not all that famous? He won the Medal of Honor, spoke in a rally, ping pong made him a "national celebrity", and he was a tycoon who established hospitals, churches, and so forth; why were the news programs reporting his HeroicBSOD run merely referring to him as 'a gardener from Greenbow, Alabama'? Why not 'former tycoon', ''70s ping pong sensation', or, heck, 'Vietnam war veteran', which would surely make his running act more dramatic and politicized?
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*** I don't think were supposed to feel bad about Jenny and somehow absolve her of the responsibility of her own mistakes, but we are supposed to feel sorry for a person who was molested as a child and consequently tried to runaway and get rid of the mental scars while trying to make the world a better place through the ideologies of the day and having her dreams dashed and sinking deeper into depression and self-hate. Sure she treats Forrest badly, but then again she treats herself badly too. She's supposed to be a tragic figure and an example of how by a combination of human flaws and mostly an uncaring world, people are hurt and hurt themselves and others. She almost killed herself at one point. And she only gets back on her feet when she takes responsibility for herself. Probably she left Forrest because she didn't want to hurt him. Unfortunately she was dying and she needed to find a place for her child, but otherwise she would probably have tried to stay out of Forrest's life because she didn't want to hurt him and that is also very sad. Remember that she avoided Forrest's love because of self-hate, not Forrest-hate.
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*** I don't think were we're supposed to feel bad about Jenny and somehow absolve her of the responsibility of her own mistakes, but we are supposed to feel sorry for a person who was molested as a child and consequently tried to runaway run away and get rid of the mental scars while trying to make the world a better place through the ideologies of the day and having her dreams dashed and sinking deeper into depression and self-hate. Sure Sure, she treats Forrest badly, but then again again, she treats herself badly badly, too. She's supposed to be a tragic figure and an example of how how, by a combination of human flaws and mostly an uncaring world, people are hurt and hurt themselves and others. She almost killed herself at one point. And she only gets back on her feet when she takes responsibility for herself. Probably she left Forrest because she didn't want to hurt him. Unfortunately Unfortunately, she was dying and she needed to find a place for her child, but otherwise she would probably have tried to stay out of Forrest's life because she didn't want to hurt him and that is also very sad. Remember that she avoided Forrest's love because of self-hate, not Forrest-hate.
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*** Explain Bubba then. Also, I don't care if she'd lived a full life and all that, I still would feel worse about my mother dying than my wife, since we've shared an entire lifetime. Jenny was in and out of Forrest's life from the beginning.
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*** Explain Bubba then. Also, I don't care if she'd lived a full life and all that, I Possibly. It still would feel worse about my pisses me off, though, because Jenny didn't deserve it and his mother dying than my wife, since we've shared an entire lifetime. Jenny was in and out of Forrest's life from the beginning.did.
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*** Um, no. Her wild days were when she was still in college, way before she and Forrest had sex. Also, you mean they never had sex again, even after they were married?
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*** Explain Bubba then. Also, I don't care if she'd lived a full life and all that, I still would feel worse about my mother dying than my wife, since we've shared an entire lifetime. Jenny was in and out of Forrest's life from the beginning.
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***The reference was pretty clearly making fun of Tom Hanks and the movie version though.
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** It doesn't necessarily mean anything. If Jenny has AIDS we don't know for sure when she contracted it. It's unlikely she had it when she and Forrest had sex (and they only had sex the one time IIRC) so Forrest is probably okay. And it's unlikely her son has it because she probably caught it during her days of wild sex and drug parties, which came ''after'' her son would have been born.
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** Well she was quite old when she died. Generally speaking, it's a lot easier to get over the loss of a friend or a loved one if they lived a full life before dying.
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* I get what the message of the movie is supposed to be, but it still bothers me how Forrest seems to fall into success without trying; he doesn't really have to work for any of it, it just sort of happens. I mean yes, he wins the Congressional Medal of Honor for saving his comrades under enemy fire, but he also makes a fortune in the shrimp business because of a freak storm that sinks every last boat except his. He makes ''another'' fortune when Lieutenant Dan invests his money in Apple Computers; Forrest didn't lift a finger for that one. He also influences pop culture over a thirty-year span simply by being there--everything from Elvis to smiley faces can be traced directly back to Forrest. He even gets the girl of his dreams in the end (even though she ends up dead, but still). As far as I can tell the medal was the only thing Forrest earned through his own effort; he wasn't even particularly gifted at football beyond his ability to run really fast and blindly follow orders, things that didn't take an ounce of training or sacrifice to achieve. And this is the guy we're supposed to be rooting for?
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* I get what the message of the movie is supposed to be, but it still bothers me how Forrest seems to fall into success without trying; he doesn't really have to work for any of it, it just sort of happens. I mean yes, he wins the Congressional Medal of Honor for saving his comrades under enemy fire, but he also makes a fortune in the shrimp business entirely because of a freak storm that somehow sinks every last boat in the area except his. He makes ''another'' fortune when Lieutenant Dan invests his money in Apple Computers; hell, Forrest didn't have to lift a finger for that one. He also influences pop culture over a thirty-year span simply by being there--everything from Elvis to smiley faces can be traced directly back to Forrest. He even gets the girl of his dreams in the end (even though she ends up dead, but still). As far as I can tell the medal was the only thing Forrest earned through his own effort; he wasn't even particularly gifted at football beyond his ability to run really fast and blindly follow orders, things that didn't take an ounce of training or sacrifice to achieve. And this is the guy we're supposed to be rooting for?
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*** Yes? If you want to pick it apart, if you're alive, you know life is ahead of you. Got a box of chocolates and you know that chocolate is in there. Most boxes come with all sorts of kinds--while they usually have a map to tell you what kind is where, that's not the point (also, they might not have when Mrs. Gump uttered that phrase). You can pick out your chocolate, know it's chocolate, but you don't know exactly what it is yet, or if you'll like it. Hell, maybe you're deathly allergic.
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*** Yes? If you want to pick it apart, if you're alive, you know life is ahead of you. Got a box of chocolates and you know that chocolate is in there. Most boxes come with all sorts of kinds--while they usually have a map to tell you what kind is where, that's not the point (also, they might not have when Mrs. Gump uttered that phrase). You can pick out your chocolate, know it's chocolate, but you don't know exactly what it is yet, or if you'll like it. Hell, maybe you're deathly allergic. allergic.
*** Two more possibilities, not necessarily mutually exclusive: (1) Forrest doesn't seem the type to give folksy sayings like that a lot of thought, especially if they come from his mother. Remember that, as far as he's concerned, Momma's a font of wisdom. (2) Even if you know what's in the box after you open it, what about ''before?'' Sure, you can argue that all Whitman's Samplers are the same; but imagine if you only got one of them to last you the rest of your life. Would you know what was in it before you opened it? It's sort of the same idea. It doesn't hold up under close scrutiny, but again, Forrest doesn't seem the type to worry about it too much.
* I get what the message of the movie is supposed to be, but it still bothers me how Forrest seems to fall into success without trying; he doesn't really have to work for any of it, it just sort of happens. I mean yes, he wins the Congressional Medal of Honor for saving his comrades under enemy fire, but he also makes a fortune in the shrimp business because of a freak storm that sinks every last boat except his. He makes ''another'' fortune when Lieutenant Dan invests his money in Apple Computers; Forrest didn't lift a finger for that one. He also influences pop culture over a thirty-year span simply by being there--everything from Elvis to smiley faces can be traced directly back to Forrest. He even gets the girl of his dreams in the end (even though she ends up dead, but still). As far as I can tell the medal was the only thing Forrest earned through his own effort; he wasn't even particularly gifted at football beyond his ability to run really fast and blindly follow orders, things that didn't take an ounce of training or sacrifice to achieve. And this is the guy we're supposed to be rooting for?
* If Jenny indeed has AIDS, as the movie seems to be strongly implying, what does that mean for Forrest, or for Forrest Jr. for that matter? [[FridgeHorror Yikes...]]
* Why does Forrest cry for Jenny, but not his mother? It seems sort of unfair that he mourns more for the woman who spent most of her life walking all over him than for the woman who sacrificed everything for him. Hell, he cries more for fucking ''Bubba'' than he does for his own mother. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously?]]
*** Two more possibilities, not necessarily mutually exclusive: (1) Forrest doesn't seem the type to give folksy sayings like that a lot of thought, especially if they come from his mother. Remember that, as far as he's concerned, Momma's a font of wisdom. (2) Even if you know what's in the box after you open it, what about ''before?'' Sure, you can argue that all Whitman's Samplers are the same; but imagine if you only got one of them to last you the rest of your life. Would you know what was in it before you opened it? It's sort of the same idea. It doesn't hold up under close scrutiny, but again, Forrest doesn't seem the type to worry about it too much.
* I get what the message of the movie is supposed to be, but it still bothers me how Forrest seems to fall into success without trying; he doesn't really have to work for any of it, it just sort of happens. I mean yes, he wins the Congressional Medal of Honor for saving his comrades under enemy fire, but he also makes a fortune in the shrimp business because of a freak storm that sinks every last boat except his. He makes ''another'' fortune when Lieutenant Dan invests his money in Apple Computers; Forrest didn't lift a finger for that one. He also influences pop culture over a thirty-year span simply by being there--everything from Elvis to smiley faces can be traced directly back to Forrest. He even gets the girl of his dreams in the end (even though she ends up dead, but still). As far as I can tell the medal was the only thing Forrest earned through his own effort; he wasn't even particularly gifted at football beyond his ability to run really fast and blindly follow orders, things that didn't take an ounce of training or sacrifice to achieve. And this is the guy we're supposed to be rooting for?
* If Jenny indeed has AIDS, as the movie seems to be strongly implying, what does that mean for Forrest, or for Forrest Jr. for that matter? [[FridgeHorror Yikes...]]
* Why does Forrest cry for Jenny, but not his mother? It seems sort of unfair that he mourns more for the woman who spent most of her life walking all over him than for the woman who sacrificed everything for him. Hell, he cries more for fucking ''Bubba'' than he does for his own mother. [[WhatTheHellHero Seriously?]]
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*** Yes? If you want to pick it apart, if you're alive, you know life is ahead of you. Got a box of chocolates and you know that chocolate is in there. Most boxes come with all sorts of kinds--while they usually have a map to tell you what kind is where, that's not the point (also, they might not have when Mrs. Gump uttered that phrase). You can pick out your chocolate, know it's chocolate, but you don't know exactly what it is yet, or if you'll like it. Hell, maybe you're deathly allergic.
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** I don't think we're supposed to take the scenes where Forrest influences real history too seriously. They're just RuleOfFunny. But we are supposed to take the events of his personal life seriously. Yeah, it's a weird movie.
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*** I think he/she means there's too much going on to suspend disbelief. Personally, I think that's part of the charm in the movie.
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**Could you please explain to me what the fuck you're talking about?
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** Broadly, yes, it's chocolates. But the point is you don't know ''what kind'' of chocolates when you pick one up. Is it filled with cream? Coconut? Toffee? Caramel? That's where the analogy comes from.
** Broadly, yes, it's chocolates. But the point is you don't know ''what kind'' of chocolates when you pick one up. Is it filled with cream? Coconut? Toffee? Caramel? That's where the analogy comes from.
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* Life is not like a box of chocolates. You always know what is inside a box of chocolates: Chocolates. So where does the analogy come from?
