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** Plus, Maximus fumbles his gun early in the fight, so he spends most of the duel being pretty mobille and attacking the Ghoul at close range, meaning that cutting a hose was the most effective option. By contrast, in the final battle, the Brotherhood Knights are at range, not likely to drop their guns, and holding still - ideal for exploiting that particular weakness.
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** Even if we ignore just how powerful and insidious Vault-Tec is, you gotta put yourself in the shoes of an average person in their world. The war's going on, nuclear armageddon is hovering in the horizon but may, or may not be inevitable, and now suddenly you got this former star, now blacklisted Commie, running around screaming that his wife and Vault Tec are totally gonna destroy the world. Howard would've been in an insane asylum.
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In between the time that Norm and Chet explore the destroyed Vault 32 and Barb's re-opening it up to colonists from 33, someone did a major renovation on the whole thing. Clearly it couldn't have been anyone from 33, as they had to keep the secret of what really happened there from them. My assumption at the time was that Vault 31 people had come in and done it in secret. But on retrospect, the reveal of Vault 31's actual inhabitants means that's not really an option. So how did 32 get magically rebuilt to pristine shape?

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In between the time that Norm and Chet explore the destroyed Vault 32 and Barb's Betty's re-opening it up to colonists from 33, someone did a major renovation on the whole thing. Clearly it couldn't have been anyone from 33, as they had to keep the secret of what really happened there from them. My assumption at the time was that Vault 31 people had come in and done it in secret. But on retrospect, the reveal of Vault 31's actual inhabitants means that's not really an option. So how did 32 get magically rebuilt to pristine shape?
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In between the time that Norm and Chet explore the destroyed Vault 32 and Barb's re-opening it up to colonists from 33, someone did a major renovation on the whole thing. Clearly it couldn't have been anyone from 33, as they had to keep the secret of what really happened there from them. My assumption at the time was that Vault 31 people had come in and done it in secret. But on retrospect, the reveal of Vault 31's actual inhabitants means that's not really an option. So how did 32 get magically rebuilt to pristine shape?
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** It's probably a combination of the Ghoul realizing that Maximus wasn't a serious threat and just being baffled by the situation. It should be noted that the Ghoul doesn't go out of his way to slaughter people unless it furthers his goals or unless he feels threatened. When he murdered those who rescued him he was simultaneously silencing them (since they at least knew about the man who buried him) and stealkng their supplies. With the people of Filly he was being shot at from multiple directions which is enough to kill almost anyone even with his skill level. With the NCR ranger's son he essentially identified him as a future threat which is something he's probably had to deal with over the centuries. With Maximus the Ghoul was facing an opponent that clearly didn't know how to use the power armor and wasn't even seriously trying to kill him. He probably thought Maximus was just a young boy who had scavenged some power armor and was trying to defend the town. So he humiliated Maximus to show him he was out of his depth and then left him alive because there was no threat.

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** It's probably a combination of the Ghoul realizing that Maximus wasn't a serious threat and just being baffled by the situation. It should be noted that the Ghoul doesn't go out of his way to slaughter people unless it furthers his goals or unless he feels threatened. When he murdered those who rescued him he was simultaneously silencing them (since they at least knew about the man who buried him) and stealkng stealing their supplies. With the people of Filly he was being shot at from multiple directions which is enough to kill almost anyone even with his skill level. With the NCR ranger's son he essentially identified him as a future threat which is something he's probably had to deal with over the centuries. With Maximus the Ghoul was facing an opponent that clearly didn't know how to use the power armor and wasn't even seriously trying to kill him. He probably thought Maximus was just a young boy who had scavenged some power armor and was trying to defend the town. So he humiliated Maximus to show him he was out of his depth and then left him alive because there was no threat.
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**It's probably a combination of the Ghoul realizing that Maximus wasn't a serious threat and just being baffled by the situation. It should be noted that the Ghoul doesn't go out of his way to slaughter people unless it furthers his goals or unless he feels threatened. When he murdered those who rescued him he was simultaneously silencing them (since they at least knew about the man who buried him) and stealkng their supplies. With the people of Filly he was being shot at from multiple directions which is enough to kill almost anyone even with his skill level. With the NCR ranger's son he essentially identified him as a future threat which is something he's probably had to deal with over the centuries. With Maximus the Ghoul was facing an opponent that clearly didn't know how to use the power armor and wasn't even seriously trying to kill him. He probably thought Maximus was just a young boy who had scavenged some power armor and was trying to defend the town. So he humiliated Maximus to show him he was out of his depth and then left him alive because there was no threat.



* I understand that they're there for Hank (as well as revenge for Shady Sands), but... almost all of those people were innocent of his crimes. If anything, they were his victims as well. How could a supposed BigGood justify such a brutal massacre?

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* I understand that they're there for Hank (as well as revenge for Shady Sands), but... almost all of those people were innocent of his crimes. If anything, they were his victims as well. How could a supposed BigGood justify such a brutal massacre?massacre?>
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It is revealed that before the bombs dropped, the Ghoul served in the military, and thanks to having experience of using the T-60 power armor was aware they had a fatal weak spot. He uses this knowledge to take down several Brotherhood knights in the final episode. Why didn't he use this knowledge against Maximus when they faced off in Filly? [[{{Pun}} Plot Armor?]]

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** Also, they're pretty clearly stoned. The fact that they were able to raise any objection at ''all'' is probably a sign of how worried they were.

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** A very good question. Mr House was always taken off guard, and many other Vault Tec personnel failed to reach the Vaults in time.

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** A very good question. Mr House was always also taken off guard, and many other Vault Tec personnel failed to reach the Vaults in time.


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*** Put simply, we never get a precise answer to this question and that's probably the point. Like all the other possible culprits they were clearly awful people perfectly ''willing'' to destroy the world, but the evidence is circumstantial and honestly, possibly lost forever in the chaos of that last day.

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A common point of contention is it's located way too close to LA and the Boneyard when in previous Fallout, it's much father.

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* A common point of contention is it's located way too close to LA and the Boneyard when in previous Fallout, it's much father.father.
** It changed locations between Fallout 1 and 2 as well. Shady Sands's geographical flexibility is nothing new.
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** Vault-Tec might've been on board with the ''idea'' of launching the nukes, but there's no indication that they actually went through with it; it's entirely possible that someone else pushed the button first and completely wrongfooted them. As per ''4'', Vault-Tec representatives are still signing people up for Vaults literal minutes before the bombs fall, while several of the vaults are still under construction-why wouldn't Vault-Tec make sure that all their vaults are fully staffed and operational before kicking off the war?
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** Given the show's satirical tone, it's quite likely Barb was under the impression Janey was being taken to safety and someone in the company missed the note to do it.
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*** Shes LawfulGood basically.
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** They're already a DyingRace as far back as ''Fallout 2'' with some of the mutants in Broken Hills already going senile. While there's no way of knowing what a Super Mutant's natural lifespan is, it is possible that they're starting to die out at this point, especially seeing as how they can't reproduce.
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** A very good question. Mr House was always taken off guard, and many other Vault Tec personnel failed to reach the Vaults in time.
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** My theory is it's some sort of targeted radaway, specifically preventing brain damage.
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If Barb had reached the top levels of Vault-Tec, as suggested by the fact that she is the one proposing they end the world to a meeting of other [=CEOs=], why would she let Janey be with Cooper on the day it was meant to happen?
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* I understand it might be TV magic to show the effect of the fusion, but how can a nuked city have all its infrastructure intact, if all that was needed was a poer supply it would not be an abandoned city.

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* I understand it might be TV magic to show the effect of the fusion, but how can a nuked city have all its infrastructure intact, if all that was needed was a poer power supply it would not be an abandoned city.


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*** She does mention specifically that "Hypocrisy is like violence, you lose if only your enemies use it" or something to that effect.
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* Norm is the last known survivor of the [=MacLean=] family; Betty might be complicit in a lot of bad things, but even she might balk at harming the son of one of her lifelong friends, and if Hank came back and found out Betty did something to his son, even justified by their actions and backgrounds, he would most definitely be pissed.
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When Betty has the imprisoned raiders poisoned, she clearly needs to pin the blame on someone. She chooses the current woman who was in charge of the prison cell, who can be seen getting dragged offscreen when Norm finds out. But at this point, she's well-aware that Norm has been snooping around and is learning something isn't right, and his job was also directly related to feeding the prisoners. So why didn't she put the blame on him, and get a nuisance out of her way?
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*** Lucy just got a pair of people killed accidentally and might have felt a twinge of guilt.
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*** Plus, she keeps a feral ghoul of someone she once cared for. The Flame Bringer is not all there anymore, if she ever was.
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** There's also a wanted poster depicting a super mutant in the "President's" office when the sheriffs bring Ghoul Cooper in.
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*** This misses a few details. For starters, [[SpaceCompression]] is in play for all the games. Rivet City, for example, is on an old ship. A Nimitz class carrier has a crew of 5000, but that's with external support and supplies. But it gives an idea of how many people there is room for. The USS Enterprise aircraft carrier can support a crew of a little under 6,000. Much of it might not be livable, due to flooding, wreck, lack of food, etc, but there is living space at least enough. Not remotely close to Shady Sands but still a lot, especially given the Capital Wasteland's clean water shortage is fixed due to Project Purity and Lyons giving free water. That alone would see a rise in population or at least a decrease in death rate in the short run. By Fallout 4, they export materials and clean water. According to Wasteland Warfare, Megaton is one of the largest cities in the Capital Wasteland and only surpassed by Rivet City in population, which either means it's big or indirectly damns it by faint praise. Next, the Brotherhood of Steel's population is another uncertainty due to [[SpaceCompression]], recruitment of wastelanders, and Outcasts defecting. Then we have inevitable new recruits from after Fallout 3. A few terminal entries mention members with family in the Capital Wasteland implying they either settled there, are stationed there, or the Lyons outside recruitment policy continues. Additionally, in Fallout 4, rebuilding the Commonwealth is one of the themes with settlements being a core feature. We don't know how successful the Sole Survivor is, if they are at all, but at minimum we still have [[SpaceCompression]]. The player has the choice of saying "I just killed hundreds of people. I don't find it very funny" to fellow Brotherhood members if that ending was chosen regarding destroying the Institute. The Institute Facility in-game clearly lacks that capacity, but in lore they do. The real life Fenway Park can accommodate many thousands of spectators at least and Diamond City was founded in 2130 and seems to lack the overwhelming clean water shortage the majority of the Capital Wasteland has. Paranoid about Synths but that's not a population cap problem. In any event, we are not given enough to estimate populations besides "More than the game is showing".

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*** This misses a few details. For starters, [[SpaceCompression]] SpaceCompression is in play for all the games. Rivet City, for example, is on an old ship. A Nimitz class carrier has a crew of 5000, but that's with external support and supplies. But it gives an idea of how many people there is room for. The USS Enterprise aircraft carrier can support a crew of a little under 6,000. Much of it might not be livable, due to flooding, wreck, lack of food, etc, but there is living space at least enough. Not remotely close to Shady Sands but still a lot, especially given the Capital Wasteland's clean water shortage is fixed due to Project Purity and Lyons giving free water. That alone would see a rise in population or at least a decrease in death rate in the short run. By Fallout 4, they export materials and clean water. According to Wasteland Warfare, Megaton is one of the largest cities in the Capital Wasteland and only surpassed by Rivet City in population, which either means it's big or indirectly damns it by faint praise. Next, the Brotherhood of Steel's population is another uncertainty due to [[SpaceCompression]], SpaceCompression, recruitment of wastelanders, and Outcasts defecting. Then we have inevitable new recruits from after Fallout 3. A few terminal entries mention members with family in the Capital Wasteland implying they either settled there, are stationed there, or the Lyons outside recruitment policy continues. Additionally, in Fallout 4, rebuilding the Commonwealth is one of the themes with settlements being a core feature. We don't know how successful the Sole Survivor is, if they are at all, but at minimum we still have [[SpaceCompression]].SpaceCompression. The player has the choice of saying "I just killed hundreds of people. I don't find it very funny" to fellow Brotherhood members if that ending was chosen regarding destroying the Institute. The Institute Facility in-game clearly lacks that capacity, but in lore they do. The real life Fenway Park can accommodate many thousands of spectators at least and Diamond City was founded in 2130 and seems to lack the overwhelming clean water shortage the majority of the Capital Wasteland has. Paranoid about Synths but that's not a population cap problem. In any event, we are not given enough to estimate populations besides "More than the game is showing".
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**** This misses a few details. For starters, [[SpaceCompression]] is in play for all the games. Rivet City, for example, is on an old ship. A Nimitz class carrier has a crew of 5000, but that's with external support and supplies. But it gives an idea of how many people there is room for. The USS Enterprise aircraft carrier can support a crew of a little under 6,000. Much of it might not be livable, due to flooding, wreck, lack of food, etc, but there is living space at least enough. Not remotely close to Shady Sands but still a lot, especially given the Capital Wasteland's clean water shortage is fixed due to Project Purity and Lyons giving free water. That alone would see a rise in population or at least a decrease in death rate in the short run. By Fallout 4, they export materials and clean water. According to Wasteland Warfare, Megaton is one of the largest cities in the Capital Wasteland and only surpassed by Rivet City in population, which either means it's big or indirectly damns it by faint praise. Next, the Brotherhood of Steel's population is another uncertainty due to [[SpaceCompression]], recruitment of wastelanders, and Outcasts defecting. Then we have inevitable new recruits from after Fallout 3. A few terminal entries mention members with family in the Capital Wasteland implying they either settled there, are stationed there, or the Lyons outside recruitment policy continues. Additionally, in Fallout 4, rebuilding the Commonwealth is one of the themes with settlements being a core feature. We don't know how successful the Sole Survivor is, if they are at all, but at minimum we still have [[SpaceCompression]]. The player has the choice of saying "I just killed hundreds of people. I don't find it very funny" to fellow Brotherhood members if that ending was chosen regarding destroying the Institute. The Institute Facility in-game clearly lacks that capacity, but in lore they do. The real life Fenway Park can accommodate many thousands of spectators at least and Diamond City was founded in 2130 and seems to lack the overwhelming clean water shortage the majority of the Capital Wasteland has. Paranoid about Synths but that's not a population cap problem. In any event, we are not given enough to estimate populations besides "More than the game is showing".

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