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** While a lot of this can be chalked up to "Unchecked capitalism is evil" symbolism, its more of a case of "Vault Tec became so powerful and influential they decided they wanted to rebuild society with them as the central power effectively. And in that sense, you needed to end the world and start over.
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** While a lot of this can be chalked up to "Unchecked capitalism is evil" symbolism, its more of a case of "Vault Tec became so powerful and influential they decided they wanted to rebuild society with them as the central power effectively. And in that sense, you needed to end the world and start over."
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** It is clearly a new invention for the show. It does something to prevent ghouls from going feral.
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** Accirding to the games, household fusion power plants made power companies obsolete.
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** The G.E.C.K. is just used to create a habitable environment for vault dwellers that leave for the surface. It does come with a fusion reactor, but the vault dwellers would still have to build their settlements power grid by themselves. Also, the G.E.C.K. was just used on Shady Sands, not Los Angeles as a whole.
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* What exactly is in the vials that The Ghoul is trading Lucy for? I thought it was Radaway because his grave had two bags of the stuff above it. There's a theory it's a substance taken out of ghouls which is why there are freezers full of them. It is some kind of vaccination taken from younger ghouls to prevent older ones from going feral?
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* 50? 100? Several hundred? Or is it like the games where 'trust me everyone else is behind these doors you can't open' is in effect?
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** Accirding to the games, household fusion power plants made power companies obsolete.
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** Also, calling Moldaver a BigGood is a stretch here. The world of Fallout usually works under GreyAndGrayMorality and Moldaver is merely ALighterShadeOfGrey in this context. No matter how just her cause, she made the conscious choice to work with a ravenous gang of raiders to achieve her objective.
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* It's built by GECK.
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** Control is everything when you have GECK and the Sierra Madre tokens.
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* How exactly do you profit from a plan that would destroy the economy along with civilization and the entire industrialized world?
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** Bud was very easily tricked by Norman pretending to be Betty through the terminal (which seems to be how they communicate), so it's easily to assume Moldaver did the same thing.
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** For the first point, Lucy would have no interest or benefit in trying to corall a bunch of malnourished, imprisoned proto-zombies. She wanted them free because it's the right thing to do. For the second point, they ''did'' try to explain that the rest of the ghouls were feral, but she shot them with bleach as a warning, so they complied with her.
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** For the first point, Lucy would have no interest or benefit in trying to corall corral a bunch of malnourished, imprisoned proto-zombies. She wanted them free because it's the right thing to do. For the second point, they ''did'' try to explain that the rest of the ghouls were feral, but she shot them with bleach as a warning, so they complied with her.
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** She could have been put into cryo in [[VideoGame/Fallout4 Vault 111]].
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** His plan was to get laid and then kill her with the rest of the Vault.
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** For the first point, Lucy would have no interest or benefit in trying to corall a bunch of malnourished, imprisoned proto-zombies. She wanted them free because it's the right thing to do. For the second point, they ''did'' try to explain that the rest of the ghouls were feral, but she shot them with bleach as a warning, so they complied with her.
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* Why did Lucy leave pills for the ghoul? I understand the Batman-like mentality of "I'm not going to kill you" but she should have known at this point that he's completely amoral, and that by helping him stay alive, she's actively endangering every other person who comes across his path
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** Moral high ground; Lucy makes it clear in her speech to the Ghoul that while she might have to break her old moral standards to survive the Wasteland, she'll never stoop as low as him and will still retain some of her compassion and forgiveness, even towards an enemy.
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** Moral high ground; Lucy makes it clear in her speech to the Ghoul that while she might have to break her old moral standards to survive the Wasteland, she'll never stoop as low as him and will still retain some of her compassion and forgiveness, even towards an enemy.
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* I know hindsight is 20-20 and the idiot ball could always be a good excuse. However, the sequence where she demands the prisoners be freed didn't make sense to me. For one, if a bunch of people just got freed through your act of bravery, couldn't they have all been potential allies in running through an apocalyptic wasteland? Couldn't she have stopped to coral them? Additionally, if you're one of the two guys that she is threatening with a gun if you don't release the dangerous prisoners: Wouldn't it be less risky and a less brutal death to try and explain it to her that these prisoners are zombies who will tear your apart limb to limb? The worse that can happen is you get shot with a bullet rather than getting eaten by Zombies.
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* Was he trying to impregnate her? If he kills her within, say, an hour of impregnating her, then all he has of their offspring is an embryo at best?
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* Why did Lucy leave pills for the ghoul? I understand the Batman-like mentality of "I'm not going to kill you" but she should have known at this point that he's completely amoral, and that by helping him stay alive, she's actively endangering every other person who comes across his path
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* I know hindsight is 20-20 and the idiot ball could always be a good excuse. However, the sequence where she demands the prisoners be freed didn't make sense to me. For one, if a bunch of people just got freed through your act of bravery, couldn't they have all been potential allies in running through an apocalyptic wasteland? Couldn't she have stopped to coral them? Additionally, if you're one of the two guys that she is threatening with a gun if you don't release the dangerous prisoners: Wouldn't it be less risky and a less brutal death to try and explain it to her that these prisoners are zombies who will tear your apart limb to limb? The worse that can happen is you get shot with a bullet rather than getting eaten by Zombies.
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** This should be on the main fallout page, it's been a thing since Fallout 3. America's infrastructure is extremely durable apparently.
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** The power grids of America were all underground and the bombs are mostly radiation (neutron) rather than explosive. Shady Sands is mostly intact, it's just radioactive.
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* I understand it might betv TV magic to show the effect of the fusion, but how can an a nuked city have all its infrastructure intact, if all that was needed was a poer supply it would not be an abandoned city.
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** Or the beneficiary of something akin to Lorenzo Cabot's artifact or blood. Or human memories uploaded into a Synth. Honestly the range of possibilities in the Fallout Universe are pretty wide. Honestly given House's interest in immortality (he mentions exploring several angles) he might well have had access to a few that he deemed unsuitable for his purposes. Interestingly her rather psychotic nature is very similar to the mental degradation suffered by the 'brains in a jar' method, which is why House rejected that option.
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** She could have been put into cryo in [[VideoGame/Fallout4 Vault 111]].
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** She could have been a FakeDefector, "changing" her tune to secure special treatment before enacting her revenge scheme at a time when it would hurt Vault-Tec's plans more directly.
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* How is Moldaver here in the present day if she wasn't in the past? Vault Tec were the only people (that we know) who had access and resources to cryogenic stasis, and I doubt they were save a spot for a woman who despised them for stealing her cold fusion research and shelfing it and was actively trying to expose their monstrous plans.
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* How is Moldaver here in the present day if she wasn't was in the past? Vault Tec were the only people (that we know) who had access and resources to cryogenic stasis, and I doubt they were save a spot for a woman who despised them for stealing her cold fusion research and shelfing it and was actively trying to expose their monstrous plans.
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* How is Moldaver here in the present day if she wasn't in the past? Vault Tec were the only people (that we know) who had access and resources to cryogenic stasis, and I doubt they were save a spot for a woman who despised them for stealing her cold fusion research and shelfing it and was actively trying to expose their monstrous plans.
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** She probably assumed the Vault Dwellers would protect their Overseer. But ThePowerOfHate seems to have overcome her senses.
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* I understand that they're there for Hank (as well as revenge for Shady Sands), but... almost all of those people were innocent of his crimes. If anything, they were his victims as well. How could a supposed BigGood justify such a brutal massacre?
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* I understand that they're there for Hank (as well as revenge for Shady Sands), but... almost all of those people were innocent of his crimes. If anything, they were his victims as well. How could a supposed BigGood justify such a brutal massacre?
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