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*** I’m pretty sure that the whole reason Lucien decides to kill them both is because he gets them both to stand on the Guild Seal type thing on the floor, and it reacted, therefore one or both of them are heroes, and he had no way to tell if it was one or both of them were the hero. If he’d gotten them to stand on it individually, he might have been able to tell, but the book he’s working on doesn’t seem to tell him. So he has to kill both of them to make sure that the Hero (of all three types, not just one of them, like Hammer, Reaver and Garth) is dead, and so unable to stop him (as powering up the Spire requires the music box, and stripping the 3 individual heroes of their powers). Given that he’s being manipulated by Theresa (who killed his wife and daughter, and put him on the path to build the Spire), it’s likely that Theresa also made sure he thought to test both at once, and kill them at once, even if they were children (and leading to Theresa manipulating Sparrow when she survives, because Sparrow will trust her after saving their life).
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** Because [[DepravedBisexual Reaver]] [[AnythingThatMoves designed]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice it.]]

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** Because [[DepravedBisexual Reaver]] [[AnythingThatMoves designed]] [[CrossesTheLineTwice Reaver designed it.]]
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\n*** Theresa never specifically ruled out sea travel. In fact, she could have been implying that sea travel was going to be their option, but the Garth is like "Hey, I can teleport us!", and Theresa went along with it because it sounded more efficient.

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** The bit that got me about this though, is your "allies" will get pissed at you, your allies, know the Crawler exists, they know we need money to raise an army to survive the thing, but no, I will drain my treasury to make your dreams come true... for a year,then everyone dies, Page up and actually deserts you for not keeping your promise, that could of waited until the shadow creature from the Void is defeated.

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** The bit that got me about this though, is your "allies" will get pissed at you, your allies, know the Crawler exists, they know we need money to raise an army to survive the thing, but no, I will drain my treasury to make your dreams come true... for a year,then everyone dies, Page up and actually deserts you for not keeping your promise, that could of have waited until the shadow creature from the Void is defeated.
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** Oakvale was on the coast, though. There’s two beaches you can walk along, one with the chicken kicking contest and the ghost, the other leads to the bandit camp, and has a pier where NPCs unload crates. Oakvale became Wraithmarsh, the bandit camp became Bloodstone, and there’s still the road in between. It’s just no one goes to Oakvale after it becomes Wraithmarsh, so the dark forest becomes impassable, and Bloodstone turns to its own coast to facilitate trading (as no one wants to head to Wraithmarsh from Bloodstone either).

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** Oakvale was on the coast, though. There’s two beaches you can walk along, one with the chicken kicking contest and the ghost, the other leads to the bandit camp, and has a pier where NPCs [=NPCs=] unload crates. Oakvale became Wraithmarsh, the bandit camp became Bloodstone, and there’s still the road in between. It’s just no one goes to Oakvale after it becomes Wraithmarsh, so the dark forest becomes impassable, and Bloodstone turns to its own coast to facilitate trading (as no one wants to head to Wraithmarsh from Bloodstone either).
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* What were the "dark forces" that Maze said put the Wasp Queen to shame?
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** This trooper thinks it's more fridge horror but there's nothing that says Rose died instantly. It's entirely possible that Rose was still alive but severely wounded and ended up bleeding out when Lucien disposed of her body. Worse still, Rose would never know Theresa saved their little sibling.
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** Oakvale was on the coast, though. There’s two beaches you can walk along, one with the chicken kicking contest and the ghost, the other leads to the bandit camp, and has a pier where NPCs unload crates. Oakvale became Wraithmarsh, the bandit camp became Bloodstone, and there’s still the road in between. It’s just no one goes to Oakvale after it becomes Wraithmarsh, so the dark forest becomes impassable, and Bloodstone turns to its own coast to facilitate trading (as no one wants to head to Wraithmarsh from Bloodstone either).
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* If every graveyard, nay, ''every grave'' in Albion is a virtual zombie apocalypse waiting to happen, why do the people of Albion still insist on burying their dead? Seriously, the ubiquitous graveyards in the series are among the most dangerous places you can find, with a seemingly inexhaustible army of the undead rising to accost every passerby that dares venture to them. Shouldn't cremation be more widely practiced to curtail this problem by now? What's more, the people of Albion seem to have no self-awareness of the danger, Major Swift even burying his fallen soldiers [[TooDumbToLive within his own fort]], in the middle of a [[TooDumbToLive haunted cemetery]]! He then acts [[GenreBlind surprised]] when they come back as undead!

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* If every graveyard, nay, ''every grave'' in Albion is a virtual zombie apocalypse waiting to happen, why do the people of Albion still insist on burying their dead? Seriously, the ubiquitous graveyards in the series are among the most dangerous places you can find, with a seemingly inexhaustible army of the undead rising to accost every passerby that dares venture to them. Shouldn't cremation be more widely practiced to curtail this problem by now? What's more, the people of Albion seem to have no self-awareness of the danger, Major Swift even burying his fallen soldiers [[TooDumbToLive within his own fort]], in the middle of a [[TooDumbToLive haunted cemetery]]! He then acts [[GenreBlind surprised]] when they come back as undead!undead!
** Hollow Men aren't just in graveyards, anyone who died ''anywhere'' can become one, my thought is that there are too many corpses to burn, so they created graveyards to at the very least keep the Hollow Man population somewhat contained, as for the soldiers, would you like to pop out to the battlefield where all the Hollow Men are to bury your mates? or bury them out back where if they rose you would be pincered, yet again it seemed to be containment, if they buried their fellow soliders inside, they could quickly take care of them in safety, they just didn't expect the whole FromBadToWorse situation they found themselves in.
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** The fact of the matter that even Yahtzee pointed out, five minutes with your allies, go "there is a big EldritchAbomination coming within a year, I need to raise money for an army, I will fulfil my promises, but for now I need to be a little bit tyrannical to fight this thing, Walter was there he can back me up, so can most of Aurora, after it's gone, I'll reverse the choices, and fulfil my promises, but for now, I have to take the bad road until it's done"
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**** It's worth mentioning that during Theresa's speech to you right after the siege, after saying that she knew Logan would never succeed Theresa specifically says Albion needs "a Hero" to take the throne. This wording seems to suggest that Logan is not a Hero even though his sibling is.
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\n** It is odd that it wasn't brought up at all, but sea travel back then could be treacherous/time consuming depending on the weather, and the cullis gate was supposed to be a quick and easy mode of transportation until it malfunctioned. By the time you get to Bloodstone, the cullis gate is no longer an option, so now all you have is the sea travel.

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* If you can freely book sea passage between Westcliff and Bloodstone why the hell isn't that the first option you're given when it comes time to go find Reaver? Why is getting there treated like a problem until Garth mentions his cullis gate if you can just get there by ship anyway? This verges on wall banger territory since Teresa directly mentions sea travel as a way out of Bloodstone once you've arrived there.


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* If you can freely book sea passage between Westcliff and Bloodstone why the hell isn't that the first option you're given when it comes time to go find Reaver? Why is getting there to Bloodstone treated like a problem until Garth mentions his cullis gate if you can just get there by ship anyway? This verges on wall banger territory since Teresa directly mentions sea travel as a way out of Bloodstone once you've arrived there.

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* If you can freely book sea passage between Westcliff and Bloodstone why the hell isn't that the first option you're given when it comes time to go find Reaver? Why is getting there treated like a problem until Garth mentions his cullis gate if you can just get there on a ship anyway? This verges on wall banger territory since Teresa even states that you can get out of Bloodstone via ship once you've arrived there.


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* If you can freely book sea passage between Westcliff and Bloodstone why the hell isn't that the first option you're given when it comes time to go find Reaver? Why is getting there treated like a problem until Garth mentions his cullis gate if you can just get there on a by ship anyway? This verges on wall banger territory since Teresa even states that you can get directly mentions sea travel as a way out of Bloodstone via ship once you've arrived there.

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* If you can freely book sea passage between Westcliff and Bloodstone why the hell isn't that the first option you're given when it comes time to go find Reaver? Why is getting there treated like a problem until Garth mentions his cullis gate if you can just get there on a ship anyway? This verges on wall banger territory since Teresa even states that you can get out of Bloodstone via ship once you've arrived there.

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*** But choosing the "needs of the many" wish gets you a statue in your honor along with a note from the townspeople of Bowerstone that implies they know at least to some extent what you did. Maybe by that point you're just SO famous throughout Albion that everyone already knows who you are and thus you've basically reached "max renown?"
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** The bit that got me about this though, is your "allies" will get pissed at you, your allies, know the Crawler exists, they know we need money to raise an army to survive the thing, but no, I will drain my treasury to make your dreams come true... for a year,then everyone dies, Page up and actually deserts you for not keeping your promise, that could of waited until the shadow creature from the Void is defeated.
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** This troper would of totally made that brothel if it wasn't tied to a promise.

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** This troper would of have totally made that brothel if it wasn't tied to a promise.
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* If every graveyard, nay, ''every grave'' in Albion is a virtual zombie apocalypse waiting to happen, why do the people of Albion still insist on burying their dead? Seriously, the ubiquitous graveyards in the series are among the most dangerous places you can find, with a seemingly inexhaustible army of the undead rising to accost every passerby that dares venture to them. Shouldn't cremation be more widely practiced to curtail this problem by now? What's more, the people of Albion seem to have no self-awareness of the danger, Major Swift even burying his fallen soldiers [[TooDumbToLive within his own fort]], in the middle of a [[TooDumbToLive haunted cemetery]]! He then acts [[GenreBlind surprised]] when they come back as undead!
** Doubly confusing in the case of the soldiers at the Mourningwood fort who, despite being fully aware of the hollow men and the danger they pose, not only continue to bury their dead, but do so ''inside the fort.'' Naturally, this ends up going about as well as you'd expect.

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* If every graveyard, nay, ''every grave'' in Albion is a virtual zombie apocalypse waiting to happen, why do the people of Albion still insist on burying their dead? Seriously, the ubiquitous graveyards in the series are among the most dangerous places you can find, with a seemingly inexhaustible army of the undead rising to accost every passerby that dares venture to them. Shouldn't cremation be more widely practiced to curtail this problem by now? What's more, the people of Albion seem to have no self-awareness of the danger, Major Swift even burying his fallen soldiers [[TooDumbToLive within his own fort]], in the middle of a [[TooDumbToLive haunted cemetery]]! He then acts [[GenreBlind surprised]] when they come back as undead!
** Doubly confusing in the case of the soldiers at the Mourningwood fort who, despite being fully aware of the hollow men and the danger they pose, not only continue to bury their dead, but do so ''inside the fort.'' Naturally, this ends up going about as well as you'd expect.
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