History Headscratchers / Elementary

11th Aug '16 10:35:37 PM Lullaby22
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* How in the hell did Holmes predict three plays in a row of a baseball game in the Pilot? No matter how good you are at statistics and deduction, the outcome of an individual play is subject to chance. Just because a player statistically should, for example, pop up to center does not mean that he will. And if you tell me that it was a recording, then I'll tell you that Watson would have no reason to insist on staying to watch it if it was something she could have returned to anytime she wanted.
15th Jan '16 5:42:14 PM selltown88
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** Gregson works for the Major Crimes unit (or a similar name to that.) As it would be, his jurisdiction should be the entire city. Presumably, the precinct is merely a designation for that unit, given that there is no actual 11th precinct in the NYPD.
31st Oct '15 11:32:58 AM MarkLungo
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** Another major headscratcher in that episode: the murderer has killed her victim, and since the guy's wife is in India, she has plenty of time to dispose the body without no one noticing. Now, if she would've just dumbed the body into the sea or buried it, no one would know why the guy vanished. Since the guy had no apparent enemies, the cops might've ruled it as a suicide (which indeed seems to be the case before the body was found). But what does the murderer do? She ''tears down the wall of the apartment, hides the body inside, and rebuilds the wall so the wife won't notice'', something which must've taken her quite a bit of time and effort. (What if one of the neighbours had come to complain about the noise while she was doing it?) Now, this is pretty much the stupidest way one can think of to dispose a body. What if the wife had noticed the bulge in the wall, and the fact that the picture frames on it had been moved? What if the stench of the rotting body began to seep through the wall? What if the the wife simply decided to renovate the apartment? Since the murdered clearly had time to think about what to do with the body, how on earth did she come up with an incredibly stupid solution like this?

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** Another major headscratcher in that episode: the murderer has killed her victim, and since the guy's wife is in India, UsefulNotes/{{India}}, she has plenty of time to dispose the body without no one noticing. Now, if she would've just dumbed dumped the body into the sea or buried it, no one would know why the guy vanished. Since the guy had no apparent enemies, the cops might've ruled it as a suicide (which indeed seems to be the case before the body was found). But what does the murderer do? She ''tears down the wall of the apartment, hides the body inside, and rebuilds the wall so the wife won't notice'', something which must've taken her quite a bit of time and effort. (What if one of the neighbours had come to complain about the noise while she was doing it?) Now, this is pretty much the stupidest way one can think of to dispose a body. What if the wife had noticed the bulge in the wall, and the fact that the picture frames on it had been moved? What if the stench of the rotting body began to seep through the wall? What if the the wife simply decided to renovate the apartment? Since the murdered clearly had time to think about what to do with the body, how on earth did she come up with an incredibly stupid solution like this?
31st Oct '15 7:47:21 AM Gillimer
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* For that matter, what is Gregson's position? He is stated to work at the Eleventh Precinct, but seems to take cases all over the city without raising questions of jurisdiction.
11th Aug '15 11:58:04 PM Tuomas
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** Another major headscratcher in that episode: the murderer has killed her victim, and since the guy's wife is in India, she has plenty of time to dispose the body without no one noticing. Now, if she would've just dumbed the body into the sea or buried it, no one would know why the guy vanished. Since the guy had no apparent enemies, the cops might've ruled it as a suicide (which indeed seems to be the case before the body was found). But what does the murderer do? She ''tears down the wall of the apartment, hides the body inside, and rebuilds the wall so the wife won't notice'', something which must've taken her quite a bit of time and effort. (What if one of the neighbours had come to complain about the noise while she was doing it?) Now, this is pretty much the stupidest way one can think of to dispose a body. What if the wife had noticed the bulge in the wall, and the fact that the picture frames on it had been moved? What if the stench of the rotting body began to seep through the wall? What if the the wife simply decided to renovate the apartment? Since the murdered clearly had time to think about what to do with the body, how on earth did she come up with an incredibly stupid solution like this?
17th May '15 10:18:47 AM doornik1142
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*** Not really, ''but'', on a certain level it is still truth in television. It's semi-standard procedure for the police to act their evidence is super-solid when talking to a suspect. The idea is that if they can make the suspect think the evidence is unimpeachable then they'll just confess immediately in the hopes of getting a favorable deal.

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*** Not really, ''but'', on a certain level it is still truth in television. It's semi-standard procedure for the police to act like their evidence is super-solid when talking to a suspect. The idea is that if they can make the suspect think the evidence is unimpeachable then they'll just confess immediately in the hopes of getting a favorable deal.
17th May '15 10:18:04 AM doornik1142
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*** Not really, ''but'', on a certain level it is still truth in television. It's semi-standard procedure for the police to act their evidence is super-solid when talking to a suspect. The idea is that if they can make the suspect think the evidence is unimpeachable then they'll just confess immediately in the hopes of getting a favorable deal.
2nd May '15 6:33:02 AM Mavado
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** I find the real headscratcher in that episode to be how they treated the handwriting comparison (from a crossword puzzle, even) as the damning evidence, when it would be circumstancial at best. They really didn't have much evidence that the villains lawyers wouldn't be able to tear to shreds in court, did they?
15th Dec '14 5:06:30 PM MarkLungo
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** As of season 3 it's been made clear that Holmes *doesn't* have the authority, and his antics *do* cause loads of trouble for the NYPD and stir up no small amount of bad feeling as a result.

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** As of season 3 it's been made clear that Holmes *doesn't* ''doesn't'' have the authority, and his antics *do* ''do'' cause loads of trouble for the NYPD and stir up no small amount of bad feeling as a result.
15th Dec '14 2:28:37 PM randomtroper89
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* How can Holmes possibly have the legal authority to do some of the things he does? It's one thing when he's called to a crime scene after the police have already locked it down, but sometimes he speaks to witnesses/suspects without an officer present, or enters and searches people's homes for evidence without a warrant or even letting the police know he's doing it until afterward. Realistically, shouldn't this be causing loads of trouble for the NYPD?
** As of season 3 it's been made clear that Holmes *doesn't* have the authority, and his antics *do* cause loads of trouble for the NYPD and stir up no small amount of bad feeling as a result.
* I liked the episode "The Long Fuse", but one thing I wonder is why couldn't the villain remove the bomb from the vents? The episode established she had construction skills by how she boarded up a corpse in the walls of his home.
** I think she just didn't have the opportunity. It was in the middle of a busy office after all. Once she planted it she never had a window to come back and remove it after it failed to detonate. She figured if someone found the bomb later the police would just assume (after an initial scare) that it was planted by one of the eco-terrorists that were sending her company threats. Rather clever plan, all things considered.
* I don't understand how Sherlock figured out in "Dirty Laundry" that the couple were spies. The Russian traditions (though I've heard that many of them are more like folk tales) seem to be made too much of a deal of, and while they may show nationality, they may as well simply like the traditions or just happen to have some spare change around the place. I don't see how, in a post-UsefulNotes/ColdWar setting, that should make them spies.
** He figured out they were spies based on the videos the wife was recording from the delegates and various important figures. He figured they were Russian or at least of Slavic origin by those traditions.




* I don't understand how Sherlock figured out in "Dirty Laundry" that the couple were spies. The Russian traditions (though I've heard that many of them are more like folk tales) seem to be made too much of a deal of, and while they may show nationality, they may as well simply like the traditions or just happen to have some spare change around the place. I don't see how, in a post-UsefulNotes/ColdWar setting, that should make them spies.
** He figured out they were spies based on the videos the wife was recording from the delegates and various important figures. He figured they were Russian or at least of Slavic origin by those traditions.




* How can Holmes possibly have the legal authority to do some of the things he does? It's one thing when he's called to a crime scene after the police have already locked it down, but sometimes he speaks to witnesses/suspects without an officer present, or enters and searches people's homes for evidence without a warrant or even letting the police know he's doing it until afterward. Realistically, shouldn't this be causing loads of trouble for the NYPD?
** As of season 3 it's been made clear that Holmes *doesn't* have the authority, and his antics *do* cause loads of trouble for the NYPD and stir up no small amount of bad feeling as a result.

* I liked the episode "The Long Fuse", but one thing I wonder is why couldn't the villain remove the bomb from the vents? The episode established she had construction skills by how she boarded up a corpse in the walls of his home.
** I think she just didn't have the opportunity. It was in the middle of a busy office after all. Once she planted it she never had a window to come back and remove it after it failed to detonate. She figured if someone found the bomb later the police would just assume (after an initial scare) that it was planted by one of the eco-terrorists that were sending her company threats. Rather clever plan, all things considered.
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