History Headscratchers / DragonLance

6th Apr '16 7:46:33 AM mdwall
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* Why does everyone treat Sturm's "sacrifice" at the end of ''Dragons of Winter Night'' like it was the most noble and heroic thing ever? I thought it was a StupidSacrifice and the biggest IdiotBall in the series...the guy was offered a Dragonlance by Laurana (which they'd spent the last two books ''trying to get'') two minutes before he went to face Kitiara and TURNED IT DOWN! He said that he ''wouldn't know how to use it.'' Surely an intelligent chap like Sturm could figure out that you use the Dragonlance ''by sticking the pointy end in the dragon!!!'' What better opportunity to restore the honor to the Knights of Solamnia than to be the first Knight since Huma to duel a dragon with a Dragonlance? Sigh....

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* Why does everyone treat Sturm's "sacrifice" at the end of ''Dragons of Winter Night'' like it was the most noble and heroic thing ever? I thought it was a StupidSacrifice and the biggest IdiotBall in the series...the guy was offered a Dragonlance by Laurana (which they'd spent the last two books ''trying to get'') two minutes before he went to face Kitiara and TURNED IT DOWN! turned it down. He said that he ''wouldn't know how to use it.'' Surely an intelligent chap like Sturm could figure out that you use the Dragonlance ''by sticking by ''sticking the pointy end in the dragon!!!'' dragon.'' What better opportunity to restore the honor to the Knights of Solamnia than to be the first Knight since Huma to duel a dragon with a Dragonlance? Sigh....
7th Jan '16 10:16:36 PM Talyneral
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* Paladine is also called the Platinum Dragon, and Takesis is sometimes described as a dragon with five different colored heads. These descriptions make them dead ringers for Bahamut and Tiamat from a number of other settings in D&D. Are Paladine and Takesis the same as Bahamut and Tiamat but under different names, aspects of them or different beings altogether?

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* Paladine is also called the Platinum Dragon, and Takesis is sometimes described as a dragon with five different colored heads. These descriptions make them dead ringers for Bahamut and Tiamat from a number of other settings in D&D. Are Paladine and Takesis the same as Bahamut and Tiamat but under different names, aspects of them or different beings altogether?altogether?
**to some extent, though as the series continues, Takhisis makes it clear she ISNT lawful evil by her short-sighted (by the standards of dirties with the ability to perceive time in a non/linear fashion) self-defeating methods.
26th Jun '15 3:21:41 AM BiggusBerrus
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*** Lord Soth was kind of a test for humanity. Basically, they were seeing if someone as horrible as Lord Soth could be redeemed then surely the people of Ansalom were not beyond redemption. He wasn't, so they were.

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*** Lord Soth was kind of a test for humanity. Basically, they were seeing if someone as horrible as Lord Soth could be redeemed then surely the people of Ansalom were not beyond redemption. He wasn't, so they were.were.
* Paladine is also called the Platinum Dragon, and Takesis is sometimes described as a dragon with five different colored heads. These descriptions make them dead ringers for Bahamut and Tiamat from a number of other settings in D&D. Are Paladine and Takesis the same as Bahamut and Tiamat but under different names, aspects of them or different beings altogether?
22nd Jan '15 4:54:09 AM CharlesPhipps
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** Either the confrontation would have been enough to derail the Kingpriest's plan (whether by stopping him from doing it, making him not want to do it anymore, or just giving the gods an opening to stop it); the gods knew Soth wouldn't quite manage it and told him that he could anyways; the gods had a backup method to stop the Kingpriest (perhaps a different disaster); or somewhere along the line from [[MetaphoricallyTrue gods]] [[BadCommunicationKills to]] [[JumpedAtTheCall Soth]] [[UnreliableNarrator to narrator]], the message was corrupted. There are a lot of possibilities.

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** Either the confrontation would have been enough to derail the Kingpriest's plan (whether by stopping him from doing it, making him not want to do it anymore, or just giving the gods an opening to stop it); the gods knew Soth wouldn't quite manage it and told him that he could anyways; the gods had a backup method to stop the Kingpriest (perhaps a different disaster); or somewhere along the line from [[MetaphoricallyTrue gods]] [[BadCommunicationKills to]] [[JumpedAtTheCall Soth]] [[UnreliableNarrator to narrator]], the message was corrupted. There are a lot of possibilities.possibilities.
*** Lord Soth was kind of a test for humanity. Basically, they were seeing if someone as horrible as Lord Soth could be redeemed then surely the people of Ansalom were not beyond redemption. He wasn't, so they were.
22nd Jan '15 4:50:34 AM CharlesPhipps
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*** Palin had his illusions about his uncle destroyed which, while not on the level of the others, was a corrective measure. It also made him face he'd perhaps be called to die for the service of good (as his brothers eventually would do). Then again, Palin eventually abandons his magic so maybe they made his test poor.

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*** Palin had his illusions about his uncle destroyed which, while not on the level of the others, was a corrective measure. It also made him face he'd perhaps be called to die for the service of good (as his brothers eventually would do). Then again, Palin eventually abandons his magic so maybe they made failed in making his test poor.Test.
22nd Jan '15 4:49:44 AM CharlesPhipps
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*** Palin had his illusions about his uncle destroyed which, while not on the level of the others, was a corrective measure. It also made him face he'd perhaps be called to die for the service of good (as his brothers eventually would do). Then again, Palin eventually abandons his magic so maybe they made his test poor.
28th Mar '14 10:19:05 AM GreatWyrmGold
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** Either the confrontation would have been enough to derail the Kingpriest's plan (whether by stopping him from doing it, making him not want to do it anymore, or just giving the gods an opening to stop it); the gods knew Soth wouldn't quite manage it and told him that he could anyways; the gods had a backup method to stop the Kingpriest (perhaps a different disaster); or somewhere along the line from [[MetaphoricallyTrue gods]] [[BadCommunicationKills to]] [[JumpedAtTheCall Soth]] [[UnreliableNarrator to narrator]], the message was corrupted. There are a lot of possibilities.
28th Mar '14 10:11:00 AM GreatWyrmGold
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**** Also, remember that Sturm's sword Brightblade is also a powerful magical weapon, in which he had probably put a lot of weapon mastery ranks (or had spent a lot of feats on, in later edition mechanics, etc.). In D&D mechanics, a weapon with which you are very skilled is often a better choice for most applications than even a somewhat more powerfully magical weapon with which you are not skilled. Which was precisely Sturm's reasoning.

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**** Also, remember that Sturm's sword Brightblade is also a powerful magical weapon, in which he had probably put a lot of weapon mastery ranks (or had spent a lot of feats on, in later edition mechanics, etc.). In D&D mechanics, a weapon with which you are very skilled is often a better choice for most applications than even a somewhat more powerfully magical weapon with which you are not skilled. Which was precisely Sturm's reasoning. reasoning.
** Why is it so hard to fly a rocket? You just need to press a bunch of buttons. The trick is, theory is a lot harder than practice. Using a large weapon designed to be used on dragonback, when your typical weapon is smaller, differently-balanced, and has a different part that hurts people (which requires changing every part of your fightiing technique), it's not hard to see how Sturm wouldn't be good with a Dragonlance (rules concerns aside). Moreover, if he ''had'' used the Dragonlance, there is a decent chance that it would be lost, either by dropping it over the fortress wall, leaving it stuck in Skye, or [[spoiler:Kitiara]] simply looting it off his dead body. Finally, even with the Dragonlance, Sturm's chances would have been slim; best-case scenario, he gets one hit on Skye before getting killed, but more likely is that the fact that Sturm isn't using his typical weapon is noticed, which leads to the conclusion that [[CaptainObvious maybe the lance Sturm is planning to use on a dragon is a Dragonlance]], and they have Sturm fried by Skye's lightning-breath before they get within stabbing distance (and then steal the lance). Overall, the lance wouldn't help.
7th May '13 6:31:17 PM GrantMK2
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* Lord Soth's blown chance at redemption. It seems to be confirmed from multiple sources that he could have confronted the Kingpriest and had he done so he would have prevented the Cataclysm. If the Cataclysm was something that could be tossed aside for the sake of one knight's redemption for murdering his wife and seducing another woman then why was that stupid apocalypse treated like a necessity elsewhere? You can't even say it was the result of multiple authors, these accounts all come from the main books written by Weiss and Hickman.
16th Mar '13 4:32:46 PM Xtifr
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**** The Kingpriest still had his powers until the very end, as shown in the KingpriestTrilogy. I think this is because he actually was a good man who was horribly misguided by his advisers.

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**** The Kingpriest still had his powers until the very end, as shown in the KingpriestTrilogy.''Literature/KingpriestTrilogy''. I think this is because he actually was a good man who was horribly misguided by his advisers.
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