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** The novel leaves it really vague on exactly how one becomes a vampire, but it seems to be a protracted process. Down to one box of native soil and with determined and intelligent enemies closing in, Dracula may not have had time to raise reinforcements. But the three "Weird Sisters" are back at the castle. He's got reinforcements waiting for him there, and as mentioned, knows the castle and grounds and has the advantage.
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* This weakness has been explored over time, off and on. The "standard" seems to be that vampires can't cross running water on its own, but can, for instance, walk across a bridge over a river, or on streets over storm drains or sewers. But they can't wade through or fly over a river, unless at a spot where it's "enclosed." Under that logic, Dracula would be unable to leave the ''Demeter'', though he could move about freely on the ship itself, as the boat "encloses" the water beneath it.
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** Dracula's essentially immortal. His plan to nest in Britain has met unexpected opposition, but he's immortal; he can just come back and try again another time. But he'd presumably rather go back to familiar turf to lick his wounds and force his enemies, if they're that devoted to his destruction, to coming to fight him on ''his'' home ground, where he knows what's what and has the advantage, rather than going to ground in an unfamiliar and now-hostile place where his ''enemies'' have all the local knowledge and advantages.


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** RuleOfDrama. What's a cooler and more dramatic image for a scary story; a giant wolf (who, unknown to any of the witnesses, is actually a powerful vampire) charging off a shipwreck full of drained corpses and disappearing into the stormy night to the shock and bewilderment of the locals, or... a vampire who decides to just lie in his box of dirt for a few days until everyone goes away, and then sneaking onto shore in such a way that no one notices him? The former is (rightly) considered an iconic moment of the story, whether or not it makes complete logical sense; the latter would be boring, no matter how crushingly common-sense it is.
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* Also, some of this is just a meta-acknowledgement of the fact that ''Dracula'' is basically the TropeCodifier for most of the modern approach to the vampire mythos. Dracula is "King" of the vampires because he's basically become regarded as ''the'' archetypal vampire in modern popular culture, much as Franchise/SherlockHolmes is the Great Detective, Superman is ''the'' superhero of the DC universe, and so on. They're basically the characters in their genres that all the other characters who followed them owe a debt of some kind to.

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* Also, some of this is just a meta-acknowledgement of the fact that ''Dracula'' is basically the TropeCodifier for most of the modern approach to the vampire mythos. Dracula is "King" of the vampires because he's basically become regarded as ''the'' archetypal vampire in modern popular culture, much as Franchise/SherlockHolmes is the Great Detective, Superman is ''the'' superhero of the DC universe, universe that everyone looks up to, and so on. They're basically the characters in their genres that all the other characters who followed them owe a debt of some kind to.to in a meta-sense, so this is transferred into the world of the story as a kind of acknowledgement of this.
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*** A similar dynamic exists in the earlier television show ''DarkShadows'', created by Dan Curtis -- the director of the 1973 adaptation.

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*** A similar dynamic exists in the earlier television show ''DarkShadows'', ''Series/DarkShadows'', created by Dan Curtis -- the director of the 1973 adaptation.
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* I think it's something of a riff on the Fisher King. Dracula is old and decayed because the land around him is old and decayed. Then he rejuvenated by moving to a "younger" country.

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* I think it's something of a riff on the Fisher King. Dracula is old and decayed because the land around him is old and decayed. Then he he's rejuvenated by moving to a "younger" country.
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* I think it's something of a riff on the Fisher King. Dracula is old and decayed because the land around him is old and decayed. Then he rejuvenated by moving to a "younger" country.
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** Well the line about wanting to marry several men at once is because she sincerely loves all three of her suitors and doesn't want to reject any of them. She attracts so many because she's kind and charismatic. It seems less a commentary on sexuality and more on the aristocracy who defined a woman's importance by who she married - Mina representing the modern woman who's more proactive and intelligent.

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** Well the line about wanting to marry several men at once is because she sincerely loves all three of her suitors and doesn't want to reject any of them. She attracts so many because she's kind and charismatic.charismatic - and though she accuses herself of being a "horrid flirt" none of her behaviour bears this out, as she treats Seward and Quincey with great affection and respect and doesn't lead them on in any way. It seems less a commentary on sexuality and more on the aristocracy who defined a woman's importance by who she married - Mina representing the modern woman who's more proactive and intelligent.
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*** Well yes, but the point being made is that, given as he starts in Transylvania, Dracula basically has ''two'' options to get to and communicate with England -- he can go ''entirely'' by sea via the Black Sea and the Mediterranean, ''or'' he go overland ''through Europe'' (you know, that big chunk of land he's on that's between him and England) before crossing the English Channel -- which, FWIW, is the way Jonathan Harker gets to him. If he were to chose the latter he'd likely enter England via the Calais-Dover route, which would take him closer to London; the fact that he goes entirely by sea suggests that his communications with England may have ''also'' gone via the all-sea route rather than by land across Europe.

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*** Well yes, but the point being made is that, given as he starts in Transylvania, Dracula basically has ''two'' options to get to and communicate with England -- he England. He can go ''entirely'' by sea via the Black Sea and the Mediterranean, ''or'' he go overland ''through Europe'' (you know, that big chunk of land he's on that's between him and England) before then crossing the English Channel -- which, FWIW, is the way way-in-reverse that Jonathan Harker gets uses to get to him. If he Dracula were to chose the latter he'd likely enter England via the Calais-Dover route, which would take him closer to London; the fact that he goes entirely by sea suggests that his communications with England may have ''also'' gone via the all-sea route rather than by land across Europe.
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*** Well yes, but the point being made is that, given as he starts in Transylvania, Dracula basically has ''two'' options to get to and communicate with England -- he can go ''entirely'' by sea via the Black Sea and the Mediterranean, ''or'' he go overland ''through Europe'' (you know, that big chunk of land he's on that's between him and England) before crossing the English Channel -- which, FWIW, is the way Jonathan Harker gets to him. If he were to chose the latter he'd likely enter England via the Calais-Dover route, which would take him closer to London; the fact that he goes entirely by sea suggests that his communications with England may have ''also'' gone via the all-sea route rather than by land across Europe.
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** It could have been sadism. Jonathan has realized there's something wrong but heh as been isolated and forced to depend on the count, even though he now knows he can't trust the him. Dracula could be taunting Jonathan just for fun.
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*** Unless he was traveling from Wales or Scotland, then the only way to get to England is ''by sea'', England is on an island.
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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is in the same county as and only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth, meaning that while the agency at Exeter was furthest from where the Count ended up it was technically closest for his initial purposes and resources.

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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is in the same county as and only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth, meaning that while the agency at Exeter was furthest from where the Count ended up it was technically closest for his initial purposes and resources. (This would also be likely why Dracula, on making his way to England, chooses to go via sea rather than over land.)
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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is in the same county as and only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth, meaning that while it was furthest from where the Count ended up it was technically closest for his initial purposes and resources.

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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is in the same county as and only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth, meaning that while it the agency at Exeter was furthest from where the Count ended up it was technically closest for his initial purposes and resources.
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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth.

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** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is in the same county as and only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth.Plymouth, meaning that while it was furthest from where the Count ended up it was technically closest for his initial purposes and resources.

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We are told that Mr Swales has to be at his daughter's house for teatime every day, and that his habit is to spend much of the day up on the High Seat bossing his coterie of former sailors around. Why on earth was he up there at night/early in the morning? And if, as the story implies, he fell and broke his neck because Dracula appeared from the grave he was sitting over, that would mean he was there at dawn on the 10th. Pretty early for a man pushing 100.

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* We are told that Mr Swales has to be at his daughter's house for teatime every day, and that his habit is to spend much of the day up on the High Seat bossing his coterie of former sailors around. Why on earth was he up there at night/early in the morning? And if, as the story implies, he fell and broke his neck because Dracula appeared from the grave he was sitting over, that would mean he was there at dawn on the 10th. Pretty early for a man pushing 100. 100.
** He's an old man who likes the sunrise and wants to see as many of them as possible before his last one dawns. And as an old sailor, he likely got into the habit of rising early with the sun and keeping irregular hours. He's old and stubborn, it's not impossible.



The Doylist answer is obviously because Stoker wanted to show the Count getting younger and more dangerous as he fed, while the role of the Sisters was always to be sexy and seductive, but the Watsonian answer could be either that Dracula was already an old man when he became a vampire (though Vlad Tepes was 45 when he was killed) while the Sisters were in the ripeness of youth, or their ability to remain young while he seemed old was something to do with either their propensity to stay confined within the castle/their tombs unless there was something happening to wake them up (like Harker arriving) while Dracula himself was pushing his limitations to see what he could get away with (travelling away from the castle, seeing how much he could do during daylight, experimenting with sleeping somewhere other than in his tomb), or with their diet being confined to babies, or both.
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Could be any number of answers. Van Helsing was completely wrong to believe that bit of folklore. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters were also innocents who were turned while in their sleep so have the same exemption from ugliness as Lucy. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters are so old and powerful that they can cast a glamour even when asleep that makes them nigh irresistible to potential foes.

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* The Doylist answer is obviously because Stoker wanted to show the Count getting younger and more dangerous as he fed, while the role of the Sisters was always to be sexy and seductive, but the Watsonian answer could be either that Dracula was already an old man when he became a vampire (though Vlad Tepes was 45 when he was killed) while the Sisters were in the ripeness of youth, or their ability to remain young while he seemed old was something to do with either their propensity to stay confined within the castle/their tombs unless there was something happening to wake them up (like Harker arriving) while Dracula himself was pushing his limitations to see what he could get away with (travelling away from the castle, seeing how much he could do during daylight, experimenting with sleeping somewhere other than in his tomb), or with their diet being confined to babies, or both.
* Also, the Count perhaps stayed looking ancient because he was trapped in his castle and couldn't be bothered putting on youth, whereas the brides were specifically trying to seduce / feed on Jonathan, so make themselves look young and beautiful.
* Plus, of course, RuleOfSexy By Victorian Standards.
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Could be any number of answers. Van Helsing was completely wrong to believe that bit of folklore. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters were also innocents who were turned while in their sleep so have the same exemption from ugliness as Lucy. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters are so old and powerful that they can cast a glamour even when asleep that makes them nigh irresistible to potential foes.
* Also, to be totally fair to him, Van Helsing only knows what he knows about vampires from books. He's never seen the Sisters, so could be totally wrong about this.



It’s noticeable that Dracula doesn’t use his fearsome shapeshifting abilities until he reaches English soil, when he emerges from the bloodbath on The Demeter as a wolf and goes on to feed on Lucy in bat-form. Surely it would have been easier for him to fly out of his castle window than to crawl out. Now, on one occasion at least he’s dressed in Harker’s clothes and carrying a bag, so we’ll mark that one down as explained, but the other times? Maybe it takes a lot of blood-fuelled energy to shapeshift, energy he just can’t usually spare on his sparse Carpathian diet, but once he’s got access to all the blood he can guzzle it’s a whole new ball-game.

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* It’s noticeable that Dracula doesn’t use his fearsome shapeshifting abilities until he reaches English soil, when he emerges from the bloodbath on The Demeter as a wolf and goes on to feed on Lucy in bat-form. Surely it would have been easier for him to fly out of his castle window than to crawl out. Now, on one occasion at least he’s dressed in Harker’s clothes and carrying a bag, so we’ll mark that one down as explained, but the other times? Maybe it takes a lot of blood-fuelled energy to shapeshift, energy he just can’t usually spare on his sparse Carpathian diet, but once he’s got access to all the blood he can guzzle it’s a whole new ball-game. ball-game.
* He might just like the practice and the exercise. He's a vampire, who knows what he does for fun.
* Also, in England he needs to conceal himself as long as possible, hence why he shapeshifts -- so that people will not associate the terrifying bloodbath hound or the bat that likes to drink the blood of English maidens with the mysterious foreign count who's just shown up. In his own house, who cares? There's only Jonathan, and he's basically a prisoner Dracula intends to abandon to his death anyway.



It's certainly very random. All of the other legal firms and portering companies Dracula hires are locally based to the properties they're dealing with, it's only the purchase of Carfax that goes through a firm that is based just about as far away from London as you can get in England while still having running water and the telegram. It's also odd that Jonathan Harker is the one to handle the surveying of Carfax and the trip to Transylvania. Yes, Mr Hawkins certainly seems to think the world of him (enough to will his entire company and fortune to Harker the day before he dies) but the firm is said to have a London agent (he attends Mr Hawkins' funeral) who could just as easily do the job. There's really no rational explanation other than Stoker wanted Exeter included in the novel in some manner.

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* It's certainly very random. All of the other legal firms and portering companies Dracula hires are locally based to the properties they're dealing with, it's only the purchase of Carfax that goes through a firm that is based just about as far away from London as you can get in England while still having running water and the telegram. It's also odd that Jonathan Harker is the one to handle the surveying of Carfax and the trip to Transylvania. Yes, Mr Hawkins certainly seems to think the world of him (enough to will his entire company and fortune to Harker the day before he dies) but the firm is said to have a London agent (he attends Mr Hawkins' funeral) who could just as easily do the job. There's really no rational explanation other than Stoker wanted Exeter included in the novel in some manner.manner.
** Dracula ''is'' a vampire who's lived in a mouldy old castle isolated from most of civilisation for literal centuries. He probably wasn't very familiar with locations in England and had limited sources of information when he first started making inquiries, and just went with the first agency he managed to get information for or the first agency that he managed to get a response from. He was able to find and start employing closer and more efficient services when he got more familiar with things, but he would still have had to start somewhere.
** Though it's perhaps worth noting that while London would certainly be the more logical choice to start your business on the surface, if you're travelling or sending something from Transylvania to England via ''sea'' the first major port or harbour you would arrive at is Plymouth, which is only a few hours away from Exeter. This might have had something to do with it; the Count's first outreaches to England may have come and gone via sea and entered / exited the country via Plymouth.
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[[WMG: Why does Dracula hire the services of an Exeter law-firm to buy a house in Essex?]]
It's certainly very random. All of the other legal firms and portering companies Dracula hires are locally based to the properties they're dealing with, it's only the purchase of Carfax that goes through a firm that is based just about as far away from London as you can get in England while still having running water and the telegram. It's also odd that Jonathan Harker is the one to handle the surveying of Carfax and the trip to Transylvania. Yes, Mr Hawkins certainly seems to think the world of him (enough to will his entire company and fortune to Harker the day before he dies) but the firm is said to have a London agent (he attends Mr Hawkins' funeral) who could just as easily do the job. There's really no rational explanation other than Stoker wanted Exeter included in the novel in some manner.
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[[WMG: Why doesn’t Dracula shapeshift into a bat to leave his castle, rather than crawl down the wall?]]
It’s noticeable that Dracula doesn’t use his fearsome shapeshifting abilities until he reaches English soil, when he emerges from the bloodbath on The Demeter as a wolf and goes on to feed on Lucy in bat-form. Surely it would have been easier for him to fly out of his castle window than to crawl out. Now, on one occasion at least he’s dressed in Harker’s clothes and carrying a bag, so we’ll mark that one down as explained, but the other times? Maybe it takes a lot of blood-fuelled energy to shapeshift, energy he just can’t usually spare on his sparse Carpathian diet, but once he’s got access to all the blood he can guzzle it’s a whole new ball-game.

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Could be any number of answers. Van Helsing was completely wrong to believe that bit of folklore. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters were also innocents who were turned while in their sleep so have the same exemption from ugliness as Lucy. Van Helsing was partially wrong, because vampires don't appear ugly in their tombs until they've been Un-dead longer than their natural span and/or killed their first victim. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters are so old and powerful that they can cast a glamour even when asleep that makes them nigh irresistible to potential foes.

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Could be any number of answers. Van Helsing was completely wrong to believe that bit of folklore. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters were also innocents who were turned while in their sleep so have the same exemption from ugliness as Lucy. Van Helsing was partially wrong, because vampires don't appear ugly in their tombs until they've been Un-dead longer than their natural span and/or killed their first victim. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters are so old and powerful that they can cast a glamour even when asleep that makes them nigh irresistible to potential foes.
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Could be any number of answers. Van Helsing was completely wrong to believe that bit of folklore. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters were also innocents who were turned while in their sleep so have the same exemption from ugliness as Lucy. Van Helsing was partially wrong, because vampires don't appear ugly in their tombs until they've been Un-dead longer than their natural span and/or killed their first victim. Van Helsing was right, but the Sisters are so old and powerful that they can cast a glamour even when asleep that makes them nigh irresistible to potential foes.
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[[WMG: Why is Dracula old at the start of the novel while The Sisters are young and beautiful?]]
The Doylist answer is obviously because Stoker wanted to show the Count getting younger and more dangerous as he fed, while the role of the Sisters was always to be sexy and seductive, but the Watsonian answer could be either that Dracula was already an old man when he became a vampire (though Vlad Tepes was 45 when he was killed) while the Sisters were in the ripeness of youth, or their ability to remain young while he seemed old was something to do with either their propensity to stay confined within the castle/their tombs unless there was something happening to wake them up (like Harker arriving) while Dracula himself was pushing his limitations to see what he could get away with (travelling away from the castle, seeing how much he could do during daylight, experimenting with sleeping somewhere other than in his tomb), or with their diet being confined to babies, or both.
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** There's nothing explicitly written in the novel to support the contention that vampires must sleep in any type of soil. None of the female vampires (Lucy/The Sisters) are depicted as sleeping in soil, only in their coffins/tombs. Van Helsing seems to think that Dracula's normal resting place is within the huge DRACULA tomb he finds in the castle crypt (the one Harker somehow completely missed). Going purely by what's shown in the novel itself (rather than what character in the novel infer from folklore, etc) Dracula's idea of piling earth from the castle's old graveyard (which he - wasn't - buried in) into boxes to use as mobile extensions of his home is a kind of 'One Cool Trick' modern twist on the old folklore about vampires needing to return to their graves and pretty revolutionary. He's effectively applying a cheat code to the dark magic underlying his Undead existence, otherwise his plan to conquer Victorian Britain would be a non-starter.
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[[WMG: Why does Dracula come ashore at Whitby in the form of a wolf during the storm?]]
* It's odd behaviour. Sure, he may just be very eager to have his paws on solid ground again after a month at sea, but he also puts himself in real danger. If he'd stayed in one of his boxes he would have been safe, and safety is obviously very important to him. In wolf form he drew attention to himself and then had the problem of finding somewhere to rest, since the Demeter would have been crawling with locals from the moment the storm ebbed. He was lucky enough to find a suicide's grave to sleep in, but unless someone familiar with Whitby had told him in advance where it was that was a hell of a risk for him to take.
[[WMG: What was Mr Swales doing up at the graveyard seat on the night of the 9th August?]]
We are told that Mr Swales has to be at his daughter's house for teatime every day, and that his habit is to spend much of the day up on the High Seat bossing his coterie of former sailors around. Why on earth was he up there at night/early in the morning? And if, as the story implies, he fell and broke his neck because Dracula appeared from the grave he was sitting over, that would mean he was there at dawn on the 10th. Pretty early for a man pushing 100.

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* Why does Dracula flee Britain after the confrontation in Piccadilly? As Van Helsing himself suggests, he has no real reason to. Sure, he’s had setbacks. The heroes have somehow made all but one of his Earth boxes inhospitable to him, exposed his lairs and generally put him on the back foot, but he has one Earth box left, and with something as simple as a horse and cart (which he rapidly gets hold of) he can go anywhere he likes in London and hole up while he gets a grip on the situation. He could bury it somewhere, then slip in and out as mist. He could take it down into the capital’s sewers. Hell, he could take it outside London and bury it in a field, returning to the capital to rest in the graves of suicides if need be. But instead he takes it to the docks and books it as cargo on the first ship he can find heading to Rumania, which is basically the worst thing he could do. Remember, this is a creature that memorises train timetables for fun, and who has spent much of the day angrily pondering how a team of men including a rich English Lord and a property lawyer had managed to find out where his houses other than Carfax were. Taking a slow boat to Transylvania when trains travelled quicker was just asking for trouble. He’d have been far better served just going underground for a bit and recruiting a small army of vampires to join him in stalking and killing his pursuers.

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As Van Helsing himself suggests, he has no real reason to. Sure, he’s had setbacks. The heroes have somehow made all but one of his Earth boxes inhospitable to him, exposed his lairs and generally put him on the back foot, but he has one Earth box left, and with something as simple as a horse and cart (which he rapidly gets hold of) he can go anywhere he likes in London and hole up while he gets a grip on the situation. He could bury it somewhere, then slip in and out as mist. He could take it down into the capital’s sewers. Hell, he could take it outside London and bury it in a field, returning to the capital to rest in the graves of suicides if need be. But instead he takes it to the docks and books it as cargo on the first ship he can find heading to Rumania, which is basically the worst thing he could do. Remember, this is a creature that memorises train timetables for fun, and who has spent much of the day angrily pondering how a team of men including a rich English Lord and a property lawyer had managed to find out where his houses other than Carfax were. Taking a slow boat to Transylvania when trains travelled quicker was just asking for trouble. He’d have been far better served just going underground for a bit and recruiting a small army of vampires to join him in stalking and killing his pursuers.

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* Why does Dracula flee Britain after the confrontation in Piccadilly? As Van Helsing himself suggests, he has no real reason to. Sure, he’s had setbacks. The heroes have somehow made all but one of his Earth boxes inhospitable to him, exposed his lairs and generally put him on the back foot, but he has one Earth box left, and with something as simple as a horse and cart (which he rapidly gets hold of) he can go anywhere he likes in London and hole up while he gets a grip on the situation. He could bury it somewhere, then slip in and out as mist. He could take it down into the capital’s sewers. Hell, he could take it outside London and bury it in a field, returning to the capital to rest in the graves of suicides if need be. But instead he takes it to the docks and books it as cargo on the first ship he can find heading to Rumania, which is basically the worst thing he could do. Remember, this is a creature that memorises train timetables for fun, and who has spent much of the day angrily pondering how a team of men including a rich English Lord and a property lawyer had managed to find out where his houses other than Carfax were. Taking a slow boat to Transylvania when trains travelled quicker was just asking for trouble. He’d have been far better served just going underground for a bit and recruiting a small army of vampires to join him in stalking and killing his pursuers.
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* Given their youth (Seward is referred to as being 29 at the time of the novel) it's quite possible that all three are University friends. Arthur would have been sent there to achieve the classic Gentleman's degree, Seward could have won a scholarship for a medical degree before going on to study under Van Helsing in London, while Quincey obviously comes from a wealthy Texan family, and at the time American 'new money' were prone to sending their sons to Oxford or Cambridge to have the rough edges buffed off them, which Lucy notes is definitely true of the well-spoken and very 'gentlemanly' Quincey, when he's not putting on folksy American stylings to amuse her.

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* Given their youth (Seward is referred to as being 29 at the time of the novel) it's quite possible that all three are University friends. Arthur would have been sent there to achieve the classic Gentleman's degree, Seward could would have won a scholarship for done a medical degree before going on to study under Van Helsing in London, Amsterdam, while Quincey obviously comes from a wealthy Texan family, and at the time American 'new money' were prone to sending their sons to Oxford or Cambridge to have the rough edges buffed off them, which Lucy notes is definitely true of the well-spoken and very 'gentlemanly' Quincey, when he's not putting on folksy American stylings to amuse her.
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*** It's stated that at least two of the Crew are Russian, and the First Mate Rumanian. The first crewman to go missing has a Russian name. It's very likely they are all Slavic.




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* Given their youth (Seward is referred to as being 29 at the time of the novel) it's quite possible that all three are University friends. Arthur would have been sent there to achieve the classic Gentleman's degree, Seward could have won a scholarship for a medical degree before going on to study under Van Helsing in London, while Quincey obviously comes from a wealthy Texan family, and at the time American 'new money' were prone to sending their sons to Oxford or Cambridge to have the rough edges buffed off them, which Lucy notes is definitely true of the well-spoken and very 'gentlemanly' Quincey, when he's not putting on folksy American stylings to amuse her.
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* He does. The incident where Dracula catches Harker shaving and throws away his shaving mirror occurs in the morning after another all-night chat session. Also, Dracula seems to do the cooking and cleaning and place-setting during the day. His coffin time seems to be more about recovery and security than a hard and fast 'rests during the daylight hours' rule.
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* We maybe need to also acknowledge that Van Helsing doesn't actually have the power or influence to "allow" anything in this situation. Van Helsing is brought in as Lucy Westenra's doctor and has full authority over her treatment and care, however unorthodox, for as long as she needs it -- but his authority and influence over what happens to her body after that ends the split second she (apparently) dies. Furthermore, ''we'' know that all of this is necessary because we're reading all the letters and diary entries and such that make it clear that an actual honest-to-God vampire is creeping about the place, but ''no one else does''. If he had suggested or demanded any of this to her relatives, friends, or anyone with half an ounce of influence over what happened to Lucy Westenra's body after death, they would have likely summoned the nearest servant / policeman / insane asylum attendant to drag him out of their presence immediately with a flea in his ear about what a reprehensible monster he was, and if he'd done it without permission he'd have been arrested for desecrating a corpse, thus making it near-impossible for him to address the bigger threat -- Dracula. In short, Van Helsing knows what's about to happen, but his hands are pretty much tied; all he can do is wait until he has proof to show the people he needs to convince that Lucy is now of the undead.



* Also, some of this is just a meta-acknowledgement of the fact that ''Dracula'' is basically the TropeCodifier for most of the modern approach to the vampire mythos. Dracula is "King" of the vampires because he's basically become regarded as ''the'' archetypal vampire in modern popular culture, much as Franchise/SherlockHolmes is the Great Detective, Superman is ''the'' superhero, and so on.

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* Also, some of this is just a meta-acknowledgement of the fact that ''Dracula'' is basically the TropeCodifier for most of the modern approach to the vampire mythos. Dracula is "King" of the vampires because he's basically become regarded as ''the'' archetypal vampire in modern popular culture, much as Franchise/SherlockHolmes is the Great Detective, Superman is ''the'' superhero, superhero of the DC universe, and so on.on. They're basically the characters in their genres that all the other characters who followed them owe a debt of some kind to.

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* Also, some of this is just a meta-acknowledgement of the fact that ''Dracula'' is basically the TropeCodifier for most of the modern approach to the vampire mythos. Dracula is "King" of the vampires because he's basically become regarded as ''the'' archetypal vampire in modern popular culture, much as Franchise/SherlockHolmes is the Great Detective, Superman is ''the'' superhero, and so on.


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** It's also perhaps worth noting that, from what we can tell about the man through his writings and contemporary descriptions, Bram Stoker in general doesn't seem to have had a particularly high opinion of independent, liberated women or open expression of female sexuality. It's not a huge leap to read a criticism of female liberation into a novel by a man whose other writings and attitudes on the subject in general also tended to be critical of it.

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