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* There is a serious discrepancy with her past timeline: she claims to be the daughter of [[spoiler:Onulu Toruku]], but he "took her to a place untouched by Arkfall". The problem is, Arkfall wasn't until near the end of the Pale Wars, in 2030. [[spoiler:He died in 2023.]]
* There is a serious discrepancy with her past timeline: she claims to be the daughter of [[spoiler:Onulu Toruku]], but he "took her to a place untouched by Arkfall". The problem is, Arkfall wasn't until near the end of the Pale Wars, in 2030. [[spoiler:He died in 2023.]]
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** Assuming he was 10 when the Votans came, enlisting at say 14 or 15 makes it 2018 or so. The EMC must really have been recruiting heavily on the sly for an ostensibly "peacefully negotiating" power. Then again it has since been revealed that certain factions on both sides purposely started the Pale Wars anyway so it can be handwaved as to the EMC ignoring age of majority restrictions regarding entering their regular forces.
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** He specifically says he ''enlisted'' before high school. The Pale Wars were the culmination of years of racism and distrust on both sides. There was probably lots of propaganda about joining the army in case the alien menace did something overly hostile. That does lead to the question of how he managed to enlist at age 14 in a time of cold war rather than an active one, but either the age was relaxed, or his sister helped him fake his age.
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* Nolan claims he never went to high school because of the Pale Wars, but the approximate timeline of the game and TV series states that the Votans arrived ~2014, and the Pale Wars kicked off in 2023. Thus, Nolan had more than enough time to go to, and graduate from, high school before joining the EMC.
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** "Pale in comparison" has the opposite meaning to the above, so presumably it is meant that all Earth's previous wars pale by comparison to a human vs alien war.
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*** (A) Datak probably won the overwhelming majority of the Castithan vote thanks to being landlord and mafia don to them, as well as having recently engineered a situation wherein a human Lawkeeper (Nolan) atally shot a Castithan youth (the idiot) who had an essentially harmless (well, non-lethal) paintball gun, and compounded that by both getting Amanda on record as having fully supported Nolan, and then getting access to sealed E-Rep records from the Earth Military Coalition of a time when, in the midst of war, Nolan aggressively defended his own choice to vigorously shoot a Votan youth with a blaster before said youth could hurt him or his men.
*** (B) He probably won the Irathiant vote thanks to having previously arranged matters so that humans - specifically Rafe and his miners - aggressively rounded up the Irathiants and murdered one of them, and furthermore humans took the blame for murdering the Spirit Riders who escaped custody during that, and it was on his order that the Irathiants were set free.
*** (C) He pursued an aggressive, and evidently effective, "Get out the vote" strategy, to the point of sending his campaigners into the town's votan skid row to rouse the chemi-heads because "their votes will be counted!"
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*** There's the possibility that it wouldn't have mattered if they spoke Votan to the Gulanee or not. Even if they had Votans there helping, there's a good chance that it'd still attack them thinking the Votans with the humans have become turn coats. When it comes to the Gulanee Arkfalls in the game, the Gulanee attacks human and Votan played alike.
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** It makes sense that towns like Defiance would have a library chock full of books, music on CD and vinyl, video games, comic books and movies that would be available to lend, as well as the necessary equipment like the video game consoles and players for the music and movies. Even more so with New York. Towns would try to preserve the art of the past, since its an important part of society, and probably allows access to the civilians of those towns so that it's not just locked up sitting in a box somewhere.
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*** It also could have been lying to ensure Irisa would be more complacent. While it's a programmatic hard AI, it does have enough sapience to know how to lie and to vaguely tailor it's communications to the people it's talking to.
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*** It also could have been lying to ensure Irisa would be more complacent. While it's a programmatic hard AI, it does have enough sapience to know how to lie and to vaguely tailor it's communications to the people it's talking to.
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*** Maybe Irzu was not completely dormant, but observing human history for the last 3,000-odd years, and decided that humanity is more trouble than it's worth. That could be the explanation for the out-of-left-field GreenAesop that Irisa was ranting about.
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** There are still a few questions about the nanites, and really the ship in general. One of Irisa's early visions (after her attempted suicide) implied that Irzu would spread this gift to the humans as well as the Votan races. It's definitely stated specifically that he loves all life, not just Votan life, and so he wouldn't let them slaughter the humans to make way. But now he's full-on mind-controlling people as part of a Rapture scenario. Something must have changed in the interim.
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** Apples and oranges. Irisa tried to do the full-on bonding procedure that was supposed to turn Tommy into the same cultist-type that every other Votan became, but Tommy rejected it and the nanites vacated him. Nevertheless, they do repair his body as seen when Nolan whacks him with the shotgun, so they could revive Nolan in the same fashion. The indoctrination may have failed, but their medical applications are universal. It's also possible that Tommy simply had the will to reject them.
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* There appears to be a Plot Hole: Tommy's reaction to the nanites indicate that it only works on Votan physiology. Humans reject the nanite treatment. But part of Irisa's deal with "Irzu" was that Nolan be brought back to life after being killed in the First Season Finale. If it doesn't work on Humans, how did Irzu bring Nolan back to life?
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* There appears to be a Plot Hole: Tommy's reaction to the nanites indicate that it only works on Votan physiology. Humans reject the nanite treatment. But part of Irisa's deal with "Irzu" was that Nolan be brought back to life after being killed in the First Season Finale. If it doesn't work on Humans, how did Irzu bring Nolan back to life?
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** Every single person who went to the Ark was human, and the Gulanee was convinced they were still at war. She probably wouldn't have understood English, and even if she did wouldn't have believed anything they said (the fact that the E-Rep was planning on using her as an energy source wouldn't have helped). They could have tried shouting at her in the Votan languages, but even if they could find one she understood, once again she wouldn't have believed them. What they probably should have done is ordered Churchill to try and talk to her while they were setting up the bomb, just as a last-ditch resort, but they might have decided it wasn't worth it at that point (she ''had'' just slaughtered an entire regiment). The real irony is that if Tommy hadn't insisted Irisa stay home, they might have been able to negotiate with the Gulanee. Sure, things might have gone south somehow or she might not have spoken Irathient or whatever, but seeing a Votan would have at least given her pause.
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** According to her [[http://en.defiance-wiki.com/wiki/Irisa_Nyira Defiance wiki page]], Irisa was born in 2024, which makes her around 22 or 23 by the time of the series.
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** According to this, Vegas is a for-profit prison facility not part of the Earth Republic that accepts prisoners from anywhere: http://www.defiance.com/en/series/world-of-2046/2046-map
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** According to this, Vegas is a for-profit prison facility not part of the Earth Republic that accepts prisoners from anywhere: http://www.defiance.com/en/series/world-of-2046/2046-mapcom/en/series/world-of-2047/2047-map
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This is a pretty minor question, but me and my friend can't seem to find an answer; what is Irisa's age as of 2046?
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A small question: why was this war called the Pale Wars?
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