History Headscratchers / Castlevania

28th Jun '16 4:01:02 AM pmb1998
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* What makes the Belmont clan's bloodline 'purer' than the Morrises and the Schneiders? They're all Leon's descendants.

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* What makes the Belmont clan's bloodline 'purer' than the Morrises and the Schneiders? They're all Leon's descendants.descendants.
** Actually, it can be geneticaly explained quite easily. Basically, Belmonts are main (male only) branch of Leon's descendants, while Morrises, Scheiders, Lecardes and others are side branches (at least one female). Now, your gender is determined by two chromosomes known as X and Y. If you have two X chromosomes, you are female, if you have one X and one Y, you are male, if you have two Y chromosomes, you are lab-made mutant and will probably die seconds after being born. Now, let's consider that gene that enables Belmonts to use Vampire Killer without side-effects is on Y chromosome. Then every male descendant of Leon will have this special chromosome (let's call it chromosome BY, as in "Belmont Y"). As long as you are in male only line of your clan, you have exact same Y chromosome as every of your male ancestors, so every Belmont in the main line has the special BY chromosome. However, Y chromosome is male-only, so side branches of Belmonts clan (which all start from a female Belmont marrying non-Belmont) don't get it and instead have generic Y chromosome from male non-Belmont ancestor, so they can't use the whip. It's actually a good expanation, why according to Iga no woman can be Belmont...
4th Jun '16 10:00:39 AM SteelEdge
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** No matter what the goal is, three people does not make an Order. Is that what the question is asking?
28th May '16 6:52:20 PM SteelEdge
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** Arikado doesn't have a reflection. Just putting that out there.



** Perhaps Trevor and Sypha got a divorce, and half the kids took the Belnades name instead of Belmont? Or some other family issues. The Schneiders and Morrises are probably the descendants of Belmont women who took their husband's surname. Why they can't use the whip even though they're also Leon's descendants, no idea. Juste is clearly the product of incest... except really, with over two hundred years of separation, it's really not that big of a deal.



* It seems as if anyone of the Belmont clan can use the Vampire Killer (before the whole 'taint' business started). But Leon lived a thousand years ago. By the the present day, wouldn't a sizable chunk of the world's population be directly descended from him? Assuming a generation every forty years, and every generation has two kids, that's over a third of a billion descendants or 1/21 of the world's population. That's a definite underestimate, given that back then people tried to have lots of kids early. Things like the forces of darkness purposefully trying to kill them and incest (stops getting squicky after enough time) would cut down the line, but that was factored into the purposefully small calculation. If the chosen descendant kicked the bucket early, wouldn't finding a replacement be relatively easy? After training, of course.

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* It seems as if anyone of the Belmont clan can use the Vampire Killer (before the whole 'taint' business started). But Leon lived a thousand years ago. By the the present day, wouldn't a sizable chunk of the world's population be directly descended from him? Assuming a generation every forty years, and every generation has two kids, that's over a third of a billion descendants or 1/21 of the world's population. That's a definite underestimate, given that back then people tried to have lots of kids early. Things like the forces of darkness purposefully trying to kill them and incest (stops getting squicky after enough time) would cut down the line, but that was factored into the purposefully small calculation. If the chosen descendant kicked the bucket early, wouldn't finding a replacement be relatively easy? After training, of course.
* What makes the Belmont clan's bloodline 'purer' than the Morrises and the Schneiders? They're all Leon's descendants.
23rd May '16 2:38:38 PM SteelEdge
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** For that matter, why did Rinaldo make a whip and not a sword? Maybe he was a horse driver or something and didn't know how do use a sword? He made the whip for himself but never got the chance to fight with it?
2nd May '16 1:54:50 PM SteelEdge
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*** Oh, I know about the in-universe reason. I was just curious why they chose the whip in the game designer's point of view.

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*** Oh, I know about the in-universe reason. I was just curious why they chose the whip in the game designer's point of view.view.
* It seems as if anyone of the Belmont clan can use the Vampire Killer (before the whole 'taint' business started). But Leon lived a thousand years ago. By the the present day, wouldn't a sizable chunk of the world's population be directly descended from him? Assuming a generation every forty years, and every generation has two kids, that's over a third of a billion descendants or 1/21 of the world's population. That's a definite underestimate, given that back then people tried to have lots of kids early. Things like the forces of darkness purposefully trying to kill them and incest (stops getting squicky after enough time) would cut down the line, but that was factored into the purposefully small calculation. If the chosen descendant kicked the bucket early, wouldn't finding a replacement be relatively easy? After training, of course.
24th Jan '16 2:56:14 PM GrammarNavi
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*** I think it would've been better if it stuck to a formula like SuperSmashBros. Even the Subspace Emissary could fit... Go through a couple of stages beating up monsters and when you finally reach Dracula's Castle, it switches to a Metroidvania.

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*** I think it would've been better if it stuck to a formula like SuperSmashBros. ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' Even the Subspace Emissary could fit... Go through a couple of stages beating up monsters and when you finally reach Dracula's Castle, it switches to a Metroidvania.
2nd Jan '16 8:58:12 AM Doug86
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*** And his first name's Eric... Rick for short? "[[ILoveLucy Bartley! You've got some 'splainin' to do!]]"

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*** And his first name's Eric... Rick for short? "[[ILoveLucy "[[Series/ILoveLucy Bartley! You've got some 'splainin' to do!]]"
2nd Dec '15 7:04:41 AM dreamofwritting
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** [[TwoWords Three words:]] FantasyKitchenSink.

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** [[TwoWords Three words:]] Because of the FantasyKitchenSink.
10th Nov '15 3:00:18 PM X2X
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** I assume that [[spoiler:the villagers are all from branch families of the Belmonts. They might all have ties to the main line, but it's not like they got fighting training.]] I guess that after [[spoiler: Dracula was killed again, they decided to dedicate themselves to their ancestral duties since they can't exactly escape it all.]]
*** That doesn't make as much sense, as [[spoiler: the Belmonts are destined to remain ''out'' of the fighting against Drac until 1999, as stated in ''Portrait of Ruin''.]] In fact, [[spoiler: this is precisely why Richter vanished off the face of the planet after the events of ''Symphony of the Night''.]] It's possible that the events of ''Order of Ecclesia'' [[spoiler: inspired the villagers to start training for when they ''do'' get back in the game,]] but I doubt that [[spoiler: they would actively pursue their ancestral duties before its time, especially when the Vampire Killer whip's been passed off to a branch family (specifically, the Morrises) to take over their duties until the prophesied time.]]
* Why by the storyline are the Belmont males uber, but playing as anyone else makes the game much easier? I mean, Richter is slow as hell and can hardly jump for crap (particularly stupid as, in AOS, Julius Belmont is 60 years old, but MUCH faster and more agile than Ricther was during his prime!). If you have to play as an ordinary Belmont, the game is going to be much harder than, say, playing as a little girl who can cast spells, or a high school student who can use monster's souls. Which makes no ****ing sense whatsoever. Also, the Vampire Killer is supposed be a powerful legendary weapon, the best for defeating Dracula, but most of the mid-game weapons in Aria of Sorrow dramatically outclass it. The Alucard sword makes it look like a piece of crap. What gives? It's always been a pet peeve of mine how old school platform characters seem really sluggish and unathetlic.
** Short Answer, GameplayAndStorySegregation. Soma gets a free pass due to the whole Power of Dominance/Being Dracula thing, but you do have a point everywhere else.

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** I assume that [[spoiler:the villagers are all from branch families of the Belmonts. They might all have ties to the main line, but it's not like they got fighting training.]] I guess that after [[spoiler: Dracula [[spoiler:Dracula was killed again, they decided to dedicate themselves to their ancestral duties since they can't exactly escape it all.]]
*** That doesn't make as much sense, as [[spoiler: the Belmonts are destined to remain ''out'' of the fighting against Drac until 1999, as stated in ''Portrait of Ruin''.]] In fact, [[spoiler: this is precisely why Richter vanished off the face of the planet after the events of ''Symphony of the Night''.]] It's possible that the events of ''Order of Ecclesia'' [[spoiler: inspired the villagers to start training for when they ''do'' get back in the game,]] but I doubt that [[spoiler: they [[spoiler:they would actively pursue their ancestral duties before its time, especially when the Vampire Killer whip's been passed off to a branch family (specifically, the Morrises) to take over their duties until the prophesied time.]]
* Why by the storyline are the Belmont males uber, but playing as anyone else makes the game much easier? I mean, Richter is slow as hell and can hardly jump for crap (particularly stupid as, in AOS, ''Aria'', Julius Belmont is 60 years old, but MUCH faster and more agile than Ricther was during his prime!). If you have to play as an ordinary Belmont, the game is going to be much harder than, say, playing as a little girl who can cast spells, or a high school student who can use monster's souls. Which makes no ****ing sense whatsoever. Also, the Vampire Killer is supposed be a powerful legendary weapon, the best for defeating Dracula, but most of the mid-game weapons in Aria ''Aria of Sorrow Sorrow'' dramatically outclass it. The Alucard sword makes it look like a piece of crap. What gives? It's always been a pet peeve of mine how old school platform characters seem really sluggish and unathetlic.
** Short Answer, GameplayAndStorySegregation. Soma gets a free pass due to the whole Power of Dominance/Being Dominance/being Dracula thing, but you do have a point everywhere else.



**** At least "Dracula's Curse" had Trevor be (in most situations, at least) [[JackOfAllStats the most balanced, useful and tough fighter of the four playable characters despite all the others having their own individual advantages]].

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**** At least "Dracula's Curse" ''Dracula's Curse'' had Trevor be (in most situations, at least) [[JackOfAllStats the most balanced, useful and tough fighter of the four playable characters despite all the others having their own individual advantages]].



** There might not necessarily be a problem, actually. In ''Lament of Innocence'', the Whip of Alchemy became the Vampire Killer when Sara willingly offered her soul to Leon's weapon. Miss Trantoul herself was already slowly vampirizing and close to completely losing her humanity at that point, so it's possible that [[SoulJar her tainted soul within the whip]] would unquestionably recognize the legitimacy of the whip's next wielder so long as they were worthy and held the blood of (the main branch of) House Belmont within them. (Presumably, the holy whip's natural inclination to [[GoodHurtsEvil harm creatures of the night]] is overridden by Belmont blood, never mind that there's a loophole in Sara being a vampire, plus the fact that Dracula's influence on the bloodline would eventually lessen to minuscule fractions with each generation.) Additionally, [[http://shmuplations.com/symphony/ Igarashi intended for Alucard to have holy blood of his own due to Lisa being descended from a holy lineage, hence why Al can use holy weapons and subweapons.]] (Thus, Trevor would presumably have [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral major Belmont/Fahrenheit blood and minor Tepes blood]].) Furthermore, there's the whole bit in ''Order of Ecclesia'' with Dominus--the power of Dracula--being [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} super effective]] against Dracula himself, instantly killing him when everything else Shanoa threw his way failed; a Belmont descended from the Tepes line could be unknowingly drawing upon that power and using it in tandem with the Vampire Killer for extra whipping power. Having the Belmonts be of Dracula's bloodline would actually serve to add a layer of FridgeBrilliance and emotional turbulence to their eternal fight against the night: not only would there be dramatic irony in that Dracula's greatest enemies were both directly and indirectly spawned by him (with both sides largely being unaware of the blood connection), but it may partially explain the persecution of the "supernatural" Belmont clan aside of Leon renouncing his title as a knight prior to ''Lament'', though this would largely apply only to Trevor, who was only welcomed as a hero in Wallachia ''after'' he and his party whipped Drac a new one, since he'd be 1/4 vampire if he was the son of Sonia and Alucard.

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** There might not necessarily be a problem, actually. In ''Lament of Innocence'', the Whip of Alchemy became the Vampire Killer when Sara willingly offered her soul to Leon's weapon. Miss Trantoul herself was already slowly vampirizing and close to completely losing her humanity at that point, so it's possible that [[SoulJar her tainted soul within the whip]] would unquestionably recognize the legitimacy of the whip's next wielder so long as they were worthy and held the blood of (the main branch of) House Belmont within them. (Presumably, the holy whip's natural inclination to [[GoodHurtsEvil harm creatures of the night]] is overridden by Belmont blood, never mind that there's a loophole in Sara being a vampire, plus the fact that Dracula's influence on the bloodline would eventually lessen to minuscule fractions with each generation.) Additionally, [[http://shmuplations.com/symphony/ Igarashi intended for Alucard to have holy blood of his own due to Lisa being descended from a holy lineage, hence why Al can use holy weapons and subweapons.]] (Thus, Trevor would presumably have likely end up with [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral major Belmont/Fahrenheit blood and minor Tepes blood]].) Furthermore, there's the whole bit in ''Order of Ecclesia'' with Dominus--the power of Dracula--being [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} super effective]] against Dracula himself, instantly killing him when everything else Shanoa threw his way failed; a Belmont descended from the Tepes line could be unknowingly drawing upon that power and using it in tandem with the Vampire Killer for extra whipping power. Having the Belmonts be of Dracula's bloodline would actually serve to add a layer of FridgeBrilliance and emotional turbulence to their eternal fight against the night: not only would there be dramatic irony in that Dracula's greatest enemies were both directly and indirectly spawned by him (with both sides largely being unaware of the blood connection), but it may partially explain the persecution of the "supernatural" Belmont clan aside of Leon renouncing his title as a knight prior to ''Lament'', though this would largely apply only to Trevor, who was only welcomed as a hero in Wallachia ''after'' he and his party whipped Drac a new one, since he'd be 1/4 vampire if he was the son of Sonia and Alucard.
10th Nov '15 2:55:01 PM X2X
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* In ''Aria of Sorrow'', Soma Cruz is the childhood friend of Mina Hakuba who lived in a Japanese shrine all her life... and a foreign exchange student. Is this one of those [[Main/ButNotTooForeign "born in Japan but grew up somewhere else"]] deals? Oh, Japan.

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* In ''Aria of Sorrow'', Soma Cruz is the childhood friend of Mina Hakuba who lived in a Japanese shrine all her life... and a foreign exchange student. Is this one of those [[Main/ButNotTooForeign [[ButNotTooForeign "born in Japan but grew up somewhere else"]] deals? Oh, Japan.



*** The [[spoiler:purple hair]] can probably be explained because they're [[spoiler::vampires.]] The flashback NewGamePlus is kind of hard to explain one way or another, so you can assume a whole bunch of things to explain the hair.

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*** The [[spoiler:purple hair]] can probably be explained because they're [[spoiler::vampires.]] [[spoiler::vampires]]. The flashback NewGamePlus is kind of hard to explain one way or another, so you can assume a whole bunch of things to explain the hair.



* Isn't it a little unnerving just how easy, relatively speaking, it is to kill [[Main/TheGrimReaper Death]]? Leon explained exactly why he could do so, but still. And aren't they a little too eager to do so? Juste repeatedly comments on how he "got away", and Jonathan effectively picks a fight with him. Twice. Don't these people know what happens when Main/DeathTakesAHoliday?

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* Isn't it a little unnerving just how easy, relatively speaking, it is to kill [[Main/TheGrimReaper [[TheGrimReaper Death]]? Leon explained exactly why he could do so, but still. And aren't they a little too eager to do so? Juste repeatedly comments on how he "got away", and Jonathan effectively picks a fight with him. Twice. Don't these people know what happens when Main/DeathTakesAHoliday?DeathTakesAHoliday?



*** Death in the Castlevania verse appears to be a touch more malicious than normal. He also appears quite different from the traditional version of the Grim Reaper in that he doesn't seem integral to the process of souls passing on - just things dying. He also seems to have relatively limited powers, otherwise he would just command the hero in question to drop dead. Furthermore, while Death is defeated with impressive regularity, all those who do so are inevitably heroic individuals of great spiritual power and stature.

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*** Death in the Castlevania ''Castlevania'' verse appears to be a touch more malicious than normal. He also appears quite different from the traditional version of the Grim Reaper in that he doesn't seem integral to the process of souls passing on - just things dying. He also seems to have relatively limited powers, otherwise he would just command the hero in question to drop dead. Furthermore, while Death is defeated with impressive regularity, all those who do so are inevitably heroic individuals of great spiritual power and stature.



***** I think Death is just a Demon in Castlevania's mythos. He's just adopted the appearance of the Grim Reaper.

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***** I think Death is just a Demon demon in Castlevania's ''Castlevania''[='s=] mythos. He's just adopted the appearance of the Grim Reaper.



* Are there ''any'' female fans of this series who aren't in it for the [[Main/YaoiFangirl yaoi]]?

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* Are there ''any'' female fans of this series who aren't in it for the [[Main/YaoiFangirl [[YaoiFangirl yaoi]]?



** There might not necessarily be a problem, actually. In ''Lament of Innocence'', the Whip of Alchemy became the Vampire Killer when Sara willingly offered her soul to Leon's weapon. Miss Trantoul herself was already slowly vampirizing and close to completely losing her humanity at that point, so it's possible that [[SoulJar her tainted soul within the whip]] would unquestionably recognize the legitimacy of the whip's next wielder so long as they were worthy and held the blood of (the main branch of) House Belmont within them. (Presumably, the holy whip's natural inclination to [[GoodHurtsEvil harm creatures of the night]] is overridden by Belmont blood, never mind that there's a loophole in Sara being a vampire, plus the fact that Dracula's influence on the bloodline would eventually lessen to minuscule fractions with each generation.) Furthermore, there's the whole bit in ''Order of Ecclesia'' with Dominus--the power of Dracula--being [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} super effective]] against Dracula himself, instantly killing him when everything else Shanoa threw his way failed; a Belmont descended from the Tepes line could be unknowingly drawing upon that power and using it in tandem with the Vampire Killer for extra whipping power. Having the Belmonts be of Dracula's bloodline would actually serve to add a layer of FridgeBrilliance and emotional turbulence to their eternal fight against the night: not only would there be dramatic irony in that Dracula's greatest enemies were both directly and indirectly spawned by him (with both sides largely being unaware of the blood connection), but it may partially explain the persecution of the "supernatural" Belmont clan aside of Leon renouncing his title as a knight prior to ''Lament'', though this would largely apply only to Trevor, who was only welcomed as a hero in Wallachia ''after'' he and his party whipped Drac a new one, since he'd be 1/4 vampire if he was the son of Sonia and Alucard.

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** There might not necessarily be a problem, actually. In ''Lament of Innocence'', the Whip of Alchemy became the Vampire Killer when Sara willingly offered her soul to Leon's weapon. Miss Trantoul herself was already slowly vampirizing and close to completely losing her humanity at that point, so it's possible that [[SoulJar her tainted soul within the whip]] would unquestionably recognize the legitimacy of the whip's next wielder so long as they were worthy and held the blood of (the main branch of) House Belmont within them. (Presumably, the holy whip's natural inclination to [[GoodHurtsEvil harm creatures of the night]] is overridden by Belmont blood, never mind that there's a loophole in Sara being a vampire, plus the fact that Dracula's influence on the bloodline would eventually lessen to minuscule fractions with each generation.) Additionally, [[http://shmuplations.com/symphony/ Igarashi intended for Alucard to have holy blood of his own due to Lisa being descended from a holy lineage, hence why Al can use holy weapons and subweapons.]] (Thus, Trevor would presumably have [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral major Belmont/Fahrenheit blood and minor Tepes blood]].) Furthermore, there's the whole bit in ''Order of Ecclesia'' with Dominus--the power of Dracula--being [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} super effective]] against Dracula himself, instantly killing him when everything else Shanoa threw his way failed; a Belmont descended from the Tepes line could be unknowingly drawing upon that power and using it in tandem with the Vampire Killer for extra whipping power. Having the Belmonts be of Dracula's bloodline would actually serve to add a layer of FridgeBrilliance and emotional turbulence to their eternal fight against the night: not only would there be dramatic irony in that Dracula's greatest enemies were both directly and indirectly spawned by him (with both sides largely being unaware of the blood connection), but it may partially explain the persecution of the "supernatural" Belmont clan aside of Leon renouncing his title as a knight prior to ''Lament'', though this would largely apply only to Trevor, who was only welcomed as a hero in Wallachia ''after'' he and his party whipped Drac a new one, since he'd be 1/4 vampire if he was the son of Sonia and Alucard.
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