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*** Because it's Hollywood and one trope they will never get sick of is having the lazy slacker (almost always white) guy dating and marrying the hard working minority girl, and bombarding audiences with that image.
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*** It is clearly mentioned in ''[[Recap/BrooklynNineNineS6E16CincoDeMayo Cinco De Mayo]]'' that Jake had two cummerbunds and Holt later found the original cummerbund, which he keeps in his living room and insists that he is the only two-time Halloween heist champion.


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*** Except he clearly told Jake earlier that he is a screw-up and "I don't want my only daughter dating a screw-up!" Which leads to Jake's epic LameComeback "Oh yeah? Well I don't want my only girlfriend daughtering a jerk dad! Burn on you!"

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* How is the case against Jake and Rosa ''so'' open and shut? The show makes it out as though they have no hope of being found innocent, but there are at least a few techniques that their defence team doesn't even seem to consider:

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** Scully is a good opera singer. That may not necessarily translate to being a good soloist in a non-operatic setting.
* How is the case against Jake and Rosa ''so'' open and shut? The show makes it out as though they have no hope of being found innocent, but there are at least a few techniques that their defence defense team doesn't even seem to consider:
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*** Because it's Hollywood and one trope they will never get sick of is having the lazy slacker (almost always white) guy dating and marrying the hard working minority girl, and bombarding audiences with that image.

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*** This one's pure RuleOfDrama: kids are an important topic of discussion in any kind of serious relationship, and the writers decided that they could get more drama out of actually showing the characters discussing and grappling with the issue rather than just brushing it off and either telling the audience or letting them assume they'd gotten on the same page off-screen. If this is indeed a bigger question, then we can simply assume that the slight out-of-characterness this suggests is simply down to any such discussion occurring very early in the relationship and Amy being willing to brush the issue off when she was still in the excitement and bliss of a new romance with a man she clearly had strong feelings for (she would be far from the first or only person to act a little out-of-character when newly in love), only for the issue (and Jake's initial vague response) to eventually niggle at her until it eventually reaches the point where she can't let it go any longer, which as it happens are the events of the episode being discussed.



*** There's no double standard though as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldn't make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesn't then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who does want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as if by the he doesn't want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesn't have that pressure as if in a decade he changes his mind its still physically possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didn't help either. Amy wasn't demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its not a point they can compromise on.

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*** There's no double standard though though, as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldn't make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesn't then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who does want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant can't wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as issue; if by the he decides in, say, a decade that he really doesn't want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesn't have that pressure as if in a decade he later changes his mind its it's still physically possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didn't help either. Amy wasn't demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its it's not a point they can compromise on.




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** What kind of reward would you have in mind? Arresting criminals and helping fellow law-enforcement officers is part of their job, after all. Aside from some kind of commendation or medal, there's not really many other kinds of reward that would be appropriate in their position.
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** The flashbacks to the 70s and 80s are pretty clearly just excuses to get as much comedy value as possible from dressing dry-as-dust Raymond Holt in the flashy and colourful fashions of the disco and ''Miami Vice'' eras. In other words, this is pure RuleOfFunny.

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*** The Nine-Nine has always had different shifts (we see the weekend shift in the episode with employee evaluations), and Holt can't work 24/7. It's likely that they always had a night captain, and we just never saw them because they weren't relevant until the crew came back from Florida.



*** There are also 2 other factors to consider; firstly Holt can spend most of his shift, whereas Jake has to be on his feet most of the night, furthermore Jake's injury might weaken his leg more than Holt's rebar injury would (I'm not sure, not a doctor).

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*** There are also 2 other factors to consider; firstly Holt can spend most of his shift, shift sitting down, whereas Jake has to be on his feet most of the night, furthermore night. Furthermore Jake's injury might weaken his leg more than Holt's rebar injury would (I'm not sure, not a doctor).doctor).
** Holt probably followed his doctor's instructions and physical therapy regimen to a T, while it's not out of the question that Jake didn't, setting his healing and recovery back a bit.
*** Not to mention that Jake spent at least two minutes hooked up to a blood bag with the ''wrong blood type'' (incredibly dangerous even though it's PlayedForLaughs), which could have caused him some complications that Holt didn't have to deal with and delaying his transition into physical therapy.
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* Did the Nine-Nine seriously not get any reward whatsoever for taking down Figgis and saving the life of a federal agent?
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**** But when Holt returned, they no longer needed someone to fill in anymore. So this doesn't explain why the Nine-Nine now had two captains when they never did before. Why didn't they transfer CJ to a new precinct once Holt came back from witness protection?
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*** The funny thing is, her father never actually said he would forbid them from seeing each other. In fact during the speaker phone call he was clearly about to say that the decision IS up to Amy, but she interrupted him. I assume what he was going to say was, she can date Jake if she wants but he doesn’t have to like it.
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*** There's no double standard though as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldn't make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesn't then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who dis want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as if by the he doesn't want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesn't have that pressure as if in a decade he changes his mind its still physically possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didn't help either. Any wasn't demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its not a point they can compromise on.

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*** There's no double standard though as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldn't make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesn't then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who dis does want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as if by the he doesn't want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesn't have that pressure as if in a decade he changes his mind its still physically possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didn't help either. Any Amy wasn't demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its not a point they can compromise on.

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*** There are also 2 other factors to consider; firstly Holt can spend most of his shift, whereas Jake has to be on his feet most of the night, furthermore Jake's injury might weaken his leg more than Holt's rebar injury would (I'm not sure, not a doctor).



* Why did Figgis only threaten Jake and Holt? The whole squad worked to take him down, not just those two. If anything, wouldn’t Figgis want to target Rosa, who wasPimento’s fiancé at the time?

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* Why did Figgis only threaten Jake and Holt? The whole squad worked to take him down, not just those two. If anything, wouldn’t Figgis want to target Rosa, who wasPimento’s was Pimento’s fiancé at the time?


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*** Or that WesternAnimation/PhineasAndFerb have a pet platypus.


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** Because no one respects Scully.

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* Does the show's treatment of Holt and Wuntch's relationship make anyone else uncomfortable? She claims that her enmity towards him has nothing to do with him sexually rejecting her, but she pretty clearly sexually harasses him on screen - twice. Once when she gives him an unnecessarily long pat-down and again when she kisses him on the lips after trumping him. And both of these incidents seem to be played for laughs. This just seems weird considering how the show otherwise deals with things like this quite seriously.

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* Does the show's treatment of Holt and Wuntch's relationship make anyone else uncomfortable? She claims that her enmity towards him has nothing to do with him sexually rejecting her, but she pretty clearly sexually harasses him on screen - -- twice. Once when she gives him an unnecessarily long pat-down and again when she kisses him on the lips after trumping him. And both of these incidents seem to be played for laughs. This just seems weird considering how the show otherwise deals with things like this quite seriously.



** Captain Holt probably isn't the type to ''want'' to retire, as per TruthInTelevision. His [[VagueAge ambiguous age is probably left unanswered to avoid this kinda thing happening in a realistic way]]. It could also just be RuleOfFunny: Captain Holt is [[MathematiciansAnswer old]] years old. That's all you need to know. That, or this show is set in an alternate universe where things work differently. There's some stuff in this show that may suggest this to be the actual case.

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** Captain Holt probably isn't the type to ''want'' to retire, as per TruthInTelevision. His [[VagueAge ambiguous age is probably left unanswered to avoid this kinda thing happening in a realistic way]]. It could also just be RuleOfFunny: Captain Holt is [[MathematiciansAnswer old]] years old.old]]-years-old. That's all you need to know. That, or this show is set in an alternate universe where things work differently. There's some stuff in this show that may suggest this to be the actual case.



* In episode 21 of season 1, why does Rosa think someone is lying to Gina when she claims to know Papa John (as in, the guy the pizza chain is named for)? It's not like they just randomly chose that name, there really ''is'' a Papa John: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schnatter John Schnatter]], who founded the chain.

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* In episode Episode 21 of season Season 1, why does Rosa think someone is lying to Gina when she claims to know Papa John (as in, the guy the pizza chain is named for)? It's not like they just randomly chose that name, there really ''is'' a Papa John: [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Schnatter John Schnatter]], who founded the chain.



* In the first episode after Florida, Jake uses a cane because he’d been shot in the leg. But Holt had been impaled on rebar earlier that day and he seems fine. His injury was most likely worse than Jake’s - why did he recover so quickly?

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* In the first episode after Florida, Jake uses a cane because he’d been shot in the leg. But Holt had been impaled on rebar earlier that day and he seems fine. His injury was most likely worse than Jake’s - -- why did he recover so quickly?



* In the episode ''Captain Latvia'' (Season 4 episode 10), Nikolaj's hero, Captain Latvia, is a Latvian hero that can speak to possums. Just one question though. How is he able to speak to possums if there are [[https://twitter.com/nevertoocurious/status/1034035954053304320?s=19 no possums]] in Latvia?

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* In the episode ''Captain Latvia'' (Season 4 episode Episode 10), Nikolaj's hero, Captain Latvia, is a Latvian hero that can speak to possums. Just one question though. How is he able to speak to possums if there are [[https://twitter.com/nevertoocurious/status/1034035954053304320?s=19 no possums]] in Latvia?



** The fake Cayman Islands account is set up under the name Flaxton Hill Holdings – a name that is explicitly linked to a witness who had nothing but kind words for Hawkins and claimed Peralta threatened him.
** The existence of a bank account with a few signatures – which are never cross-examined – is one thing; there's not even any history of Peralta or Diaz accessing those accounts.

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** The fake Cayman Islands account is set up under the name Flaxton Hill Holdings –- a name that is explicitly linked to a witness who had nothing but kind words for Hawkins and claimed Peralta threatened him.
** The existence of a bank account with a few signatures –- which are never cross-examined –- is one thing; there's not even any history of Peralta or Diaz accessing those accounts.



* In Season 6 Casecation, Amy says she doesn't want to wait two years for Jake to decide if he wants kids because she'll have to 'start again'. Why does the show not acknowledge the full size and import of this as basically an ultimatum to Jake that has to have kids with her? Jake snarks about it but by the end of the episode all is forgiven.

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* In Season 6 Casecation, "Casecation", Amy says she doesn't want to wait two years for Jake to decide if he wants kids because she'll have to 'start again'. Why does the show not acknowledge the full size and import of this as basically an ultimatum to Jake that has to have kids with her? Jake snarks about it but by the end of the episode all is forgiven.



*** There's no double standard though as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldnt make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesnt then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who dis want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as if by the he doesnt want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesnt have that pressure as if in a decade he changes his mind its still physicaLly possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didnt help either. Any wasnt demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its not a point they can compromise on.

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*** There's no double standard though as Jake and Amy would be affected differently so couldnt couldn't make the same demands. Ultimately what Amy was saying is that she wants kids, and if Jake doesnt doesn't then that would be a deal breaker and they'd have to split up and Amy would move on to find someone who dis want kids. Potentially sad but its a real issue that needs consideration. Amy's problem is that she cant wait for Jake to decide in a couple of years on the issue as if by the he doesnt doesn't want kids, she's older and has less time to find someone else, whereas Jake doesnt doesn't have that pressure as if in a decade he changes his mind its still physicaLly physically possible to have kids. His glib answer that he's never be rich enough for a young woman to want his kids when he was old really didnt didn't help either. Any wasnt wasn't demanding they have kids in the then and now, just acknowledging that it was a decision that would have long term consequences for both of them. The "partnership" you mention is Jake thinking seriously about if he wants kids and either saying yes, and they have them together, or saying no with the understanding that that would end the relationship as its not a point they can compromise on.on.

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