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*** I would like to if it means he can keep opening doors for me, but I see your point. It’d be consistent for the characters to take the opportunity to leave him behind
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** It’s inconsistent, yes, but if you’d like an explanation then presumably getting his mechanical eye forcibly torn out by the still running wires sends off more error signals and alerts than getting kicked in the chassis by Bandits. And if we’re going by the assumption that Claptrap still has his armored chassis from The Pre-Sequel, then getting kicked in the armor probably doesn’t compare too much to getting getting shot and mauled by monsters/trained military personnel that are stronger than the average human.
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*After Knuckledragger's attack, Claptrap says "Apart from the excruciating pain, this is great!" Later on while he's being beaten by Flynt's crew for attempted mutiny and he's talking them through why he'd really like them to stop, he says (on their behalf), "But Claptrap, you're a robot! Do you even feel pain?" "Well, uh, no, I guess not." Does he have selective nociception?
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*After Knuckledragger's attack, Claptrap says "Apart from the excruciating pain, this is great!" Later on while he's being beaten by Flynt's crew for attempted mutiny and he's talking them through why he'd really like them to stop, he says (on their behalf), "But Claptrap, you're a robot! Do you even feel pain?" "Well, uh, no, I guess not." Does he have selective nociception?
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** Would you want to carry him up a flight of stairs? Or would you rather make him wait at the bottom and hopefully find a way to ditch him.
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When the city teleports out in Rising Action, it only takes a few seconds for the mortars to stop landing. Can Jack / Angel see the future, or is Pandora's moon a lot closer to Pandora than Earth's moon is to Earth?
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* When the city teleports out in Rising Action, it only takes a few seconds for the mortars to stop landing. Can Jack / Angel see the future, or is Pandora's moon a lot closer to Pandora than Earth's moon is to Earth?Earth?
** Helios is in orbit around Pandora, not Elpis. It's a lot closer. Though yes, it does seem that Elpis is closer.
** Helios is in orbit around Pandora, not Elpis. It's a lot closer. Though yes, it does seem that Elpis is closer.
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When the city teleports out in Rising Action, it only takes a few seconds for the mortars to stop landing. Can Jack / Angel see the future, or is Pandora's moon a lot closer to Pandora than Earth's moon is to Earth?
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** T-Bone Junction is mentioned by Angel, so it was occupied by Hyperion. Tartarus Station and Jakobs Cove aren't mentioned because they're outside the areas of interest of the game.
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*Okay, basically what it says on the tin, what happened to T-Bone Junction, Jakobs Cove, and Tartarus Station? Did they get occupied by Hyperion? I mean, yeah, it would make sense if that was what happened (since T-Bone Junction and Tartarus Station were managed by Hyperion somewhat) but, basically, why doesn't anyone mention those locations?
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*Okay, basically what it says on the tin, what happened to T-Bone Junction, Jakobs Cove, and Tartarus Station? Did they get occupied by Hyperion? I mean, yeah, it would make sense if that was what happened (since T-Bone Junction and Tartarus Station were managed by Hyperion somewhat) but, basically, why doesn't anyone mention those locations?
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***Monica Rial also voiced a talking sniper rifle - yes, you read that correctly - called the Morningstar.
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** It is revealed in Either 2 or TPS that Claptrap's creator died before correcting a major fault with their personality programming which apparently no one person can manage or even try to correct, which is likely the root of Jack's decision to destroy the entire line. Maybe who created the New U system deliberately programmed it so that it could not be fiddled around with after start up. It could be that Jack as the CEO and even Angel with her hacking skill plain cannot do such a thing as stop the system working on someone after they've signed up for it.
*** Or on the other hand the canonical explanation could be that the Vault Hunters are just too skilled to die, even with all Jack throws at them (explaining his increasing frustration with you not dying and his belief that killing you once will stick) and so in canon will never need to use the New U stations.
*** Or on the other hand the canonical explanation could be that the Vault Hunters are just too skilled to die, even with all Jack throws at them (explaining his increasing frustration with you not dying and his belief that killing you once will stick) and so in canon will never need to use the New U stations.
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*** One of the options for that mission is to call the Hyperion suicide crisis hotline and end the mission by NOT killing yourself; this could be the "canonical" choice taken by the Vault Hunters.
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*** Then why is there a quest in which Jack asks you to literally kill yourself, knowing fully well that you'll respawn?
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** To actually give an in-universe explanation, other guns are built by companies who want to make weapons...even if their niche is 'bargain basement cheap' (Bandit), 'easy to reload' (Tediore) or 'BLOWS SH*T UP!' (Torgue), they know that nobody's going to want to buy their gear if you can't hit anything, so they make the effort to make sure the guns are weighted properly, so that people can aim with them. Hyperion (or, rather, Jack, who can make Hyperion do what he wants), on the other hand, took the wrong message from Maliwan's idiosyncratic naming, and thought they could sell their guns on cool names (and can't even do that right, since all their weapons are named for corporate buzzwords), so they don't bother spending the money on proper engineering. Their mechanical gimmick - improved accuracy when firing in rapid succession - mitigates that, slightly, and is a one time engineering expense (it's implied to be the same tech in all their weapons), rather than doing each weapon type's engineering separately, which would further dis-incentivize them to do the weapons right to begin with.
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** WordofGod says Jack honest to god believes he's doing the right thing. He lied to himself about the severity of whatever Angel did to her mother.
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** WordofGod WordOfGod says Jack honest to god believes he's doing the right thing. He lied to himself about the severity of whatever Angel did to her mother.
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** Because Hyperion weapons have low base accuracy. And before you point out that this makes no sense as to why the gun would make the screen sway that much, I would like to point out that ''you are playing a Borderlands game.''
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* OK, when the player is aiming their gun, there will normally be a realistic amount of weapon sway. But when the player aims a Hyperion weapon, the hands suddenly start jerking around as if they had Parkinson's. What's up with that?
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* OK, when the player is aiming their gun, there will normally be a realistic amount of weapon sway. But when the player aims a Hyperion weapon, the hands suddenly start jerking around as if they had Parkinson's. What's up with that?that?
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* OK, when the player is aiming their gun, there will normally be a realistic amount of weapon sway. But when the player aims a Hyperion weapon, the hands suddenly start jerking around as if they had Parkinson's. What's up with that?
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** Actually, the New-U stations were recently declared non-canon.
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** Mordy, at least, is implied to have simply drank the money away (and given who he is, this is not entirely unplausable). Roland had to fund the entirety of the Crimson Raiders, as his recruitment echos said that he's able to provide food and shelter to anyone who needs it, and likely still has a considerable sum that is locked away only for Raider-related expenses. Lilith is implied to have funded her "one-woman war" against the bandits out of her pocket for the same amount of time, and there's no indication Brick is poor at all (he is the king of one of the largest bandit gangs, which can't be cheap). That or all their money got burnt up when Wilhelm sacked New Haven.
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*** Given the hilarious amount of weird and insane laws Hyperion enforces, Doc Mercy might have gotten his license because Hyperion deemed killing Bandits and Crimson Raiders to be sound medical practices. After all that does ensure the good health of Hyperion workers.
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** A more likely reason is because Jack is literally hours away from waking the warrior, so in his hubris he thought he no longer had to worry about any other threat, since the Warrior would have won the day after it awoke. Given Jack's megalomania and psychosis, him ignoring the logic of destroying Sanctuary when it's vulnerable is perfectly within his character, since it would make him an even bigger "hero". That or he tried to use the "Heroes show mercy" justification he talked about shortly before fighting The Bunker. The reason is that, as someone else on this series page has pointed out, Hyperion had more than enough conventional troops to overtake the planet if Jack simply just spammed Loaders and Constructors at you, but he's so insane that he never even considers this a viable option.
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** Tales from the Borderlands reveals that Jack had at least two wives (Although it's unsure if Moxxi is considered one of them, since while she did date Jack it was never specified if they married) so the inconsistency might be chalked up to them referring to different wives.
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Misuse. It\'s Genre Savvy, not just \"savvy\".
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** Presumably it was just whoever would have gotten 2nd place without Marcie's interference. All we know is that Gaige didn't care or blame that person for anything.
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** If New-U stations are canon, the most logical way to explain Roland suffering from a FinalDeath is because Handsome Jack made sure that the leader of LaResistance would be disconnected from the network (New-U is a Hyperion service, after all). It doesn't explain why he didn't do a similar trick to the new Vault Hunters, though.
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** If New-U stations are canon, the most logical way to explain Roland suffering from a FinalDeath is because Handsome Jack made sure that the leader of LaResistance would be disconnected from the network (New-U is a Hyperion service, after all). It doesn't explain why he didn't do a similar trick to the new Vault Hunters, though.
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