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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, Hollywood bulletproof vest aside and nigh-unstoppable psycho aside, aiming for centre of mass produces the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, unless you're up against a nigh-unstoppable killing machine wearing a Hollywood bulletproof vest aside and nigh-unstoppable psycho aside, vest, aiming for centre of mass produces the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, Hollywood bulletproof vest aside, aiming for centre of mass produces the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, Hollywood bulletproof vest aside and nigh-unstoppable psycho aside, aiming for centre of mass produces the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. Also, Hollywood bulletproof vest aside, aiming for centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee produces the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. To elaborate, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** While I could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. To elaborate, Also, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. To elaborate, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. While I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, could've been more specific (my bad), the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad).semantic. I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. To elaborate, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XDXD That said, you make an excellent argument about Kiriyama and I concede on that point. I should've thought about it from that angle.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. To elaborate, centre of mass is the aiming point for professional shooters because that is the place which will guarantee the most successfully downed targets. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers soldiers don't agree on many things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. semantic (though being more specific would've helped, my bad). I mention matters related to marksmanship issues - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but things. But I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, range/battle conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, range/battle shooting conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, training, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was was referring to aiming specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically - hence why I mention aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically - hence specifically. That's why I mention matters related to marksmanship - aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this marksmanship being harder than telly makes it look is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically - hence why I mention aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically - hence why I mention aiming points, the difficulty of scoring hits under range/battle conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and soldiers (ex-)soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' - hence why I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting them under range/battle conditions. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' specifically - hence why I mention aiming points and points, the difficulty of hitting them scoring hits under range/battle conditions.conditions, and zeroing. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' - hence why I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting them under range/battle conditions. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. I should've thought about it from that angle. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' - hence why I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting them under range/battle conditions. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them. XD
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' - hence why I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting them under range/battle conditions.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, the difference between 'aiming' and 'shooting' in our context is semantic. I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than merely 'pulling the trigger' - hence why I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting them under range/battle conditions.conditions. I know marines and soldiers don't agree on many things, but I'd hazard a guess that this is one of them.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than pulling the trigger. Otherwise, why would I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting?
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than pulling merely 'pulling the trigger. Otherwise, trigger' - hence why would I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting? hitting them under range/battle conditions.
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** Excellent point about Kiriyama. That said, I *was referring to aiming specifically, rather than pulling the trigger. Otherwise, why would I mention aiming points and the difficulty of hitting?
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions, without training, and with possibly non-zeroed weapons. In a heated firefight, aiming for the head makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions, without training, and with possibly non-zeroed weapons. In a heated firefight, aiming for the head makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.look.
** Actually, the marine pointed out that ''aiming'' is more difficult and not the shooting itself. While the head is more difficult to get, you'd think at least Shogo, who already took part in The Program once, would know better than to simply hit someone in the torso. He even killed some people by shooting them in the head. And since he takes Kiriyama seriously, you'd think he'd be even more concerned with ending him as fast as possible.
* During the bus trip, Shogo is shown to look shocked and tries to open a window before he falls asleep, too. [[spoiler: But that doesn't make sense! Shogo hacked into the databank, learned which school was going to be picked next and deliberatly put himself into that school and class, to try to bring The Program down and kill the people responsible for it. If that was his plan all along, why does he look shocked or even try to avoid being recruited?]]
** Actually, the marine pointed out that ''aiming'' is more difficult and not the shooting itself. While the head is more difficult to get, you'd think at least Shogo, who already took part in The Program once, would know better than to simply hit someone in the torso. He even killed some people by shooting them in the head. And since he takes Kiriyama seriously, you'd think he'd be even more concerned with ending him as fast as possible.
* During the bus trip, Shogo is shown to look shocked and tries to open a window before he falls asleep, too. [[spoiler: But that doesn't make sense! Shogo hacked into the databank, learned which school was going to be picked next and deliberatly put himself into that school and class, to try to bring The Program down and kill the people responsible for it. If that was his plan all along, why does he look shocked or even try to avoid being recruited?]]
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions, without training, and with weapons that may not be zeroed. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions, without training, and with weapons that may not be zeroed. Aiming possibly non-zeroed weapons. In a heated firefight, aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and conditions, without training.training, and with weapons that may not be zeroed. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, it's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, it's shooting's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him. As our Marine friend puts it, it's not as easy as telly makes it look.
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** Ex-soldier here. The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** Ex-soldier here. The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** Because the centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** Because the Ex-soldier here. The centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** Because the centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit the centre of mass in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
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** Because the centre of mass is the easiest aiming point. Even then, it already isn't easy to hit the centre of mass that in a range, much less under battle conditions and without training. Aiming for the head in a heated firefight makes sense only if you *know that hitting your target in the torso won't hurt him.
