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** Because no matter how much he works out, Cyril is still a writhing mess of insecurity in his personality. He can ''only'' exceed Archer when Archer isn't there. He ''feels'' inferior to Archer, no matter the actuality of the situation.

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** Because no matter how much he works out, Cyril is still a writhing mess of insecurity in his personality. He can ''only'' exceed Archer when Archer isn't there. He ''feels'' inferior to Archer, no matter the actuality of the situation.situation.
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* So here's something I have to ask. Archer was given a chance to leave with his therapist, but Lana and the Agency convinced him not to. Why? Considering the hell he gives them, and the fact Lan, Pam, and Carol blamed him for making them regress back to their pre-Season 11 selves, this was the optimal opportunity to finally get rid of him. So why would Lana try to keep Archer around (aside from the obvious answers of A.J. and that the show is named after him)?
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** Its probable whatever damage his eye sustained was repairable with surgery. He needed to wear the eye patch for a bit but it healed eventually.
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** Because she's insane.
** Its gold fever. It doesn't matter how rich you are, the prospect of treasure is a huge motivator.
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** Consider: Mallory Archer and John Fitzgerald Archer just happens to have the same last name. It would not be the most ridiculous thing on this show.
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** Let's not forget the pepper spray flying all around. Its possible they DID know what Cheryl looked like but after getting maced a few times couldn't tell the women apart.
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** Because his mother embraces it. Sometimes bigots pass on their beliefs; but often the children end up rejecting them and doing a full 180. Archer's hatred of racism is a very reasonable reaction to his mother's attitudes.
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**** Except she's worth half a billion dollars. Even a top of the line facility(as in, one that's basically a resort with bars) isn't going to cost more than a few hundred thousand a year. He could easily afford to keep her shacked up in the wacko basket for the rest of her natural life.
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** In both cases(the pilot and the episode where Archer is stuck in Montreal) the implication is that he's throwing money around to impress a hooker and getting sloppily drunk, not gambling to excess.
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** Or that Archer just found it [[YouKeepUsingThatWord inconceivable]] that Lana would want his sperm, but not via "[[UnusualEuphemism direct deposit.]]"

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** Or that Archer just found it [[YouKeepUsingThatWord inconceivable]] inconceivable that Lana would want his sperm, but not via "[[UnusualEuphemism direct deposit.]]"
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* Season 11 Cyril is supposed to be one of the best spies on Earth and a badass now whose training in hand to hand and muscular. So why and how does he keep getting bullied by Archer. Now isn't like both when he could defend himself from him. So why does he allow it?

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* Season 11 Cyril is supposed to be one of the best spies on Earth and a badass now whose training in hand to hand and muscular. So why and how does he keep getting bullied by Archer. Now isn't like both before when he could couldn't defend himself from him. So why does he allow it?
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***To add more legal context to this, if Cecil can prove Cheryl is too mentally incompetent to care for herself, then he gets total control over whatever's related to her, as he'd be declared her guardian, conservator, payee, or what have you. However, I don't think Cecil considered that mental hospitals cost money and that whatever monetary assets she's got would likely go to paying for her care at the mental hospital but the point is to get her out of the way long enough.

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* Why would [[spoiler: Lana and Cyril]] get back together? Don't get me wrong, I think it creates a lot of creative plots and opportunities now. But for in-universe justification, why? Especially since [[spoiler: Cyril]] has been more incompetent or weird in later seasons.

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* Why would [[spoiler: Lana and Cyril]] Cyril get back together? Don't get me wrong, I think it creates a lot of creative plots and opportunities now. But for in-universe justification, why? Especially since [[spoiler: Cyril]] Cyril has been more incompetent or weird in later seasons.



* From "The Papal Chase", how is ISIS legendarily incompetent ([[spoiler:which is the cardinal's whole reason for hiring them]])? They're not the best spy agency in the world, but it's not like they were certain to fail at protecting the Pope.

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* From "The Papal Chase", how is ISIS legendarily incompetent ([[spoiler:which (which is the cardinal's whole reason for hiring them]])? them)? They're not the best spy agency in the world, but it's not like they were certain to fail at protecting the Pope.



** Also, in a perverse sort of way, she ''is'' - in the background, controlling his life. In fact, her involvement in (i.e. efforts to control) Archer's life have only ''increased'' over the years, to the extent that she puts out a ''burn notice'' on him when he tried to take a job at ODIN and she sent a bounty hunter to bring him back when he ran away after [[spoiler: Katya was killed by Barry at their wedding]].

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** Also, in a perverse sort of way, she ''is'' - in the background, controlling his life. In fact, her involvement in (i.e. efforts to control) Archer's life have only ''increased'' over the years, to the extent that she puts out a ''burn notice'' on him when he tried to take a job at ODIN and she sent a bounty hunter to bring him back when he ran away after [[spoiler: Katya was killed by Barry at their wedding]].wedding.



* Archer has to sleep with a fan on because he has mild tinnitus? Wha?

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* Archer has to sleep with a fan on because he has mild tinnitus? Wha?What?



* So... If Cheryl [[spoiler: Tunt]] is [[spoiler: secretly rich, why does she care about the Tontine in the Double Deuce]]?

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* So... If Cheryl [[spoiler: Tunt]] Tunt is [[spoiler: secretly rich, why does she care about the Tontine in the Double Deuce]]?Deuce?



* Whatever happened to Wee Baby Seamus? Yeah, Archer doesn't care much about him [[spoiler:and the mother admitted that he isn't really the father.]] But when Archer [[spoiler:had breast cancer]] it was implied that that he was growing fond of the child, and it seems a little OOC that he wouldn't occasionally show up in a cameo to have some kind of adventure like [[spoiler:when Seamus and Archer got tattoos with each other's name.]] Last time we heard from them too, Archer still had mandatory child support payments.

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* Whatever happened to Wee Baby Seamus? Yeah, Archer doesn't care much about him [[spoiler:and and the mother admitted that he isn't really the father.]] father. But when Archer [[spoiler:had had breast cancer]] cancer it was implied that that he was growing fond of the child, and it seems a little OOC that he wouldn't occasionally show up in a cameo to have some kind of adventure like [[spoiler:when when Seamus and Archer got tattoos with each other's name.]] name. Last time we heard from them too, Archer still had mandatory child support payments.



* Where in the hell did Mallory get a [[spoiler: literal metric tonne of cocaine]]?

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* Where in the hell did Mallory get a [[spoiler: literal metric tonne of cocaine]]?cocaine?



** Finally revealed in the season finale: [[spoiler: Malory lied. She obtained the cocaine in a drugs-for-arms deal with the CIA, and Archer was in on it from day one.]]

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** Finally revealed in the season finale: [[spoiler: Malory lied. She obtained the cocaine in a drugs-for-arms deal with the CIA, and Archer was in on it from day one.]]



*** It is left ambiguous, leaning towards Archer being innocent of the knowledge where it came from, with Mallory asking Lana when she was ever honest with Archer about anything. It is a classic Mallory statement really, the tone of voice is insincere and the answer is worded in a way that it lets Lana choose which option to believe herself without admitting anything specific.



* Season 11 Cyril is supposed to be one of the best spies on Earth and a badass now whose training in hand to hand and muscular. So why and how does he keep getting bullied by Archer. Now isn't like both when he could defend himself from him. So why does he allow it?

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* Season 11 Cyril is supposed to be one of the best spies on Earth and a badass now whose training in hand to hand and muscular. So why and how does he keep getting bullied by Archer. Now isn't like both when he could defend himself from him. So why does he allow it?it?
** Because no matter how much he works out, Cyril is still a writhing mess of insecurity in his personality. He can ''only'' exceed Archer when Archer isn't there. He ''feels'' inferior to Archer, no matter the actuality of the situation.
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**Remember, in the show, it's been implied that Malory is homophobic, to some degree, so that's one reason. Even if she did make Gillet a honeypot, he probably wouldn't do it because they already don't like each other.
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***Well, we don't know if Woodhouse was always an addict but, considering the universe of ''Archer'', he might've been the most competent ''in comparison'' to anyone else that Malory could have left him with. Also, worth pointing out that a lot of your addicts tend to appear functional (we have a [[FunctionalAddict trope]] for this), so, he was probably functional for the most part, that flashback sequence being one of those times where he so happens to be high.
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** And while they were grabbing Pam, wasn't Cheryl trying to save her own ass by insisting Pam ''was'' Cheryl Tunt? Like, it's been a while since I've seen the episode, but wasn't she shouting things like "Yes! YOU are Cheryl! I'll get help for you, CHERYL!"

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** And while they were grabbing Pam, wasn't Cheryl trying to save her own ass by insisting Pam ''was'' Cheryl Tunt? Like, it's been a while since I've seen the episode, but wasn't she shouting things like "Yes! YOU are Cheryl! I'll get help for you, CHERYL!"I just rewatched that scene, and Cheryl clearly says "You fight em off, CHERYL! ...Yes, that is YOU, CHERYL!", in an attempt to save her own skin.
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** And while they were grabbing Pam, wasn't Cheryl trying to save her own ass by insisting Pam ''was'' Cheryl Tunt? Like, it's been a while since I've seen the episode, but wasn't she shouting things like "Yes! YOU are Cheryl! I'll get help for you, CHERYL!"
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* Where did those Krieger clones even come from? Is that ever addressed?

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* Where did those Krieger clones even come from? from, like how did they end up in Calderone's employ? It was obvious that the CIA didn't know about them. Is that ever addressed?
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* Where did those Krieger clones even come from? Is that ever addressed?
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**** In the ''Sealab'' episodes, Archer mentions that Ray has 'bionic' legs, which would be an odd descriptor if it was just a spinal chip. Also, we see Ray run like Barry at the beginning of Season 7, at speeds that defy flesh-and-bone legs.
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** Who says that they got mixed up? Real!Archer was still attracted to Veronica and he has a tendency to assume that he is so handsome and charming that he can wrap women around his little finger. Fake!Archer was mostly there to record her confession. The problem being that the cyborg was apparently programmed to be just as self-centered as the real thing. Hence, rather than doing something along the lines of getting Real!Archer out of the pool and calling for an ambulance, Fake!Archer just continued to act as if it were the real one until it shorted out while trying to propose to Lana.
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**Money from insurance fraud including from the (failed) production of the film they were working on (hence all the accidents). The producer was her partner in crime and when he tried to kill her with one of the accidents to get more of a share of the money she repaid him in kind. Presumably there were more people involved including Archer's bully (having a file named the same) and the Dean's lawyer.
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*This is something I still haven't totally gotten, and I've watched the season at least three times. What was Veronica's motive through the whole season?
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** He still knows more than anyone else, which is an indicator that either color isn't particularly important in bomb defusal, or everyone else is just ''that'' stupid.

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