History Headscratchers / AmericanGods

1st Jun '17 4:01:43 AM 7137
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* How did Shadow rent a car after getting out of prison? I'm assuming there's no DMV in jail. (I'm also assuming you need a valid drivers license to rent a car. I don't drive.)

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* How did Shadow rent a car after getting out of prison? I'm assuming there's no DMV in jail. (I'm also assuming you need a valid drivers license to rent a car. I don't drive.))
** First, it wasn't a rental, it was a buy. Still think you'd need a license, but it was made pretty clear it was a shady deal at best, and it's said in the book that the guy selling it to Shadow didn't ask for any sort of identification, just money.
31st May '17 7:38:58 PM BiffJr
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* Why did Laura rot? She was embalmed.

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* Why did Laura rot? She was embalmed.embalmed.
* How did Shadow rent a car after getting out of prison? I'm assuming there's no DMV in jail. (I'm also assuming you need a valid drivers license to rent a car. I don't drive.)
22nd May '17 7:34:59 PM BiffJr
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*** I didn't make the connection. I'd like to think i'm a reasonably intelligent person. Also, what part of "God of trickery" are we missing here? It's not like he didn't have years to work his literal magic on Shadow.
22nd May '17 7:30:07 PM BiffJr
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** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.

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** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.answer.
*Why did Laura rot? She was embalmed.
7th May '17 4:34:27 PM Discar
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!!The book



** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.

!!The series
* In the second episode, Wednesday gives Shadow a shopping list. A freeze-frame on the insert shot of the list reveals "two cellphones" among the other items. Later, Wednesday reacts with disapproving surprise when he finds a cellphone in the shopping bag, and Shadow's response implies that the cellphones were his idea.

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** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.

!!The series
* In the second episode, Wednesday gives Shadow a shopping list. A freeze-frame on the insert shot of the list reveals "two cellphones" among the other items. Later, Wednesday reacts with disapproving surprise when he finds a cellphone in the shopping bag, and Shadow's response implies that the cellphones were his idea.
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7th May '17 2:39:44 PM CaptainCrawdad
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* In the second episode, Wednesday gives Shadow a shopping list that includes "two cellphones." Later, Wednesday reacts with disapproving surprise when he finds a cellphone in the shopping bag, and Shadow's response implies that the cellphones were his idea.

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* In the second episode, Wednesday gives Shadow a shopping list. A freeze-frame on the insert shot of the list that includes reveals "two cellphones." cellphones" among the other items. Later, Wednesday reacts with disapproving surprise when he finds a cellphone in the shopping bag, and Shadow's response implies that the cellphones were his idea.
7th May '17 2:38:30 PM CaptainCrawdad
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!!The book



** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.

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** So far as the original forms of the gods go, if they're worshipped in a sufficiently different country it probably produces a different version, just as Wednesday is only ''American'' Odin and not the original Odin, who turns up in Iceland in the epilogue. Possibly Greek and Roman cultures were sufficiently different for the Greek Zeus and the Roman Jupiter to both exist. So far as the American versions of the gods, go, probably they're blended into one entity if they're similar enough. Wednesday appears to consider himself to be both Odin and Woden (hence his chosen moniker - Woden's Day). Mad Sweeney appears to be an amalgam of both the fairy king Suibhne and an earlier leprechaun. Bilquis is both the goddess and the half-demon versions of the Queen of Sheba simultaneously. Hinzelmann is the mythical kobold of the same name but he's also simultaneously an older god on whom we're presumably supposed to assume the kobold was based. In the extended addition, American Jesus turns up and it's implied he's struggling to be all things to all people because of all the different denominations of Christianity. Et cetera. If an Ancient Greek or Roman ever made it to America, then there's probably a version of Zeus-Jupiter wandering around there who considers himself to be both at once, a la Wednesday with Odin-Woden. Whether Yahweh can be considered similar enough to either Allah or Jesus to be blended with one or other of them in the same way - or both - is a tricky question to answer, though, and unless Gaiman decides to write a sequel we're unlikely to ever get a canon answer.answer.

!!The series
* In the second episode, Wednesday gives Shadow a shopping list that includes "two cellphones." Later, Wednesday reacts with disapproving surprise when he finds a cellphone in the shopping bag, and Shadow's response implies that the cellphones were his idea.
1st May '17 2:00:42 AM Alas_Poor_Donny
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*** That's actually what 'medium' means-- something which can be used to convey a message. The internet supports and provides a means of distribution for media, but it's not really a communications medium itself and that's also not the only thing it does. This wiki, for instance, would be the medium through which this edit is being conveyed, but the raw functionality of the internet isn't being directly interpreted by the person on either end. There's grey area, but pretty much every major concept of that type has overlap with every other concept, this is why gods are always finding things to argue about.
24th Jan '17 10:11:32 AM gaimanite.pkat
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** Brain association. He associated "Low Key Lyesmith" with the man he had known in prison, not "Loki Lie-Smith" the Norse god. This is the reason why the audiobook isn't as good, though...there's a huge spoiler as soon as the narrator reads "Low Key Lyesmith"!
24th Jan '17 9:58:30 AM gaimanite.pkat
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** I think it has to be a bit more intense than that. The modern gods are all big important concepts embedded into society. Even the smaller tribal gods were worshipped by their devotees and were a very important part of daily life. It's not likely that members of a fandom practice certain rituals for their ship or have the ship be an integral part of their lives. And if that is the case, then they're kind of sick. Plus, fictional characters are not even close to god level.
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