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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''Literature/TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?

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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles? Franchise/TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''Literature/TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?
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** It works because despite the potential plot hole, it fits with Barry's role as the ComicRelief due to RuleOfFunny.

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** It works because despite the potential plot hole, it fits with Barry's role as the ComicRelief comic relief due to RuleOfFunny.
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*** "When you've written yourself into a corner, have a man with a gun kick down the door and start shooting."

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* We have three sets of reality warpers: the Poet, the Musicians, and the Writer. All three mention the others in their works, and creative works around Cauldron Lake come true. How much did they affect each other's stories? We know Zane wrote [[spoiler: the clicker into Alan's childhood]]. However, did the authorship of Poet and the Muse actually cause the tragedy that started this in the first place? There are significant Chicken-And-Egg questions here. Their combined actions do form a StableTimeLoop that defeats the Darkness, but who wrote whom into existence first?

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* We have three sets of reality warpers: the Poet, the Musicians, and the Writer. All three mention the others in their works, and creative works around Cauldron Lake come true. How much did they affect each other's stories? We know Zane wrote [[spoiler: the clicker into Alan's childhood]].childhood. However, did the authorship of Poet and the Muse actually cause the tragedy that started this in the first place? There are significant Chicken-And-Egg questions here. Their combined actions do form a StableTimeLoop that defeats the Darkness, but who wrote whom into existence first?
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* We have three sets of reality warpers: the Poet, the Musicians, and the Writer. All three mention the others in their works, and creative works around Cauldron Lake come true. How much did they affect each other's stories? Did the authorship of Poet and the Muse actually cause the tragedy that started this in the first place? There is significant Chicken-And-Egg questions here.

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* We have three sets of reality warpers: the Poet, the Musicians, and the Writer. All three mention the others in their works, and creative works around Cauldron Lake come true. How much did they affect each other's stories? Did We know Zane wrote [[spoiler: the clicker into Alan's childhood]]. However, did the authorship of Poet and the Muse actually cause the tragedy that started this in the first place? There is are significant Chicken-And-Egg questions here.here. Their combined actions do form a StableTimeLoop that defeats the Darkness, but who wrote whom into existence first?
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** You can actually buy short strands like that that run off D batteries at Home Depot. They are made for things like mailboxes that are far from plugs.
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* So, can anyone manipulate reality by writing, or is it just Alan's thing?

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* So, can anyone manipulate We have three sets of reality by writing, or warpers: the Poet, the Musicians, and the Writer. All three mention the others in their works, and creative works around Cauldron Lake come true. How much did they affect each other's stories? Did the authorship of Poet and the Muse actually cause the tragedy that started this in the first place? There is it just Alan's thing?significant Chicken-And-Egg questions here.

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** As I recall, the Taken are weak to light. You can see sirens, foglights, and at least one flare is launched over the area. Given that the Agent, at this point, is a rogue element its likely the Taken were taken by surprise by the series of events and needed time to recompose.



** She doesn't exactly have any free time to do this. She has more important things to worry about than whining to a probably uncaring individual in Washington who will likely side with "their" agent over a sherriff of a middle-of-nowhere small town. Remember that at the time, she's overseeing a massive manhunt, multiple missing persons, and ''her entire police department literally vanishing overnight.'' And it goes downhill from there!
** And for the record, he's ''not'' actually an agent. He was fired, according to the supplementals.

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** She doesn't exactly have any free time to do this. She has more important things to worry about than whining to a probably uncaring individual in Washington who will likely side with "their" agent over a sherriff sheriff of a middle-of-nowhere small town. Remember that at the time, she's overseeing a massive manhunt, multiple missing persons, and ''her entire police department literally vanishing overnight.'' And it goes downhill from there!
** And for the record, he's ''not'' actually an agent. He was fired, according to the supplementals.supplements.



** The longest continous time that a person has gone without sleep is roughly eleven days, so it's not impossible that he could have survived a week. As for food and drink, we don't know for a fact that he wasn't provided with either. Remember, The Dark Presence had a vested interest in keeping him alive, so presumably it took care of any physical needs that came up.

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** The longest continous continuous time that a person has gone without sleep is roughly eleven days, so it's not impossible that he could have survived a week. As for food and drink, we don't know for a fact that he wasn't provided with either. Remember, The Dark Presence had a vested interest in keeping him alive, so presumably it took care of any physical needs that came up.
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** And for the record, he's ''not'' actually an agent. He was fired, according to the supplementals.
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* So, can anyone manipulate reality by writing, or is it just Alan's thing?
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** Also, the Dark Presence is only seen in female form in the game. Night and Darkness have often been characterized as female in mythology. This is most likely just an extension of that, since this is a very GenreSavvy story. And since the Dark Presence is feminine, it seems that makes it easier to manipulate men. This generally works, except with Alan who is just very DevotedToYou. Well...that's what this romantic troper wants to believe anyway.

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** Also, the Dark Presence is only seen in female form in the game. Night and Darkness have often been characterized as female in mythology. This is most likely just an extension of that, since this is a very GenreSavvy story.that. And since the Dark Presence is feminine, it seems that makes it easier to manipulate men. This generally works, except with Alan who is just very DevotedToYou. Well...that's what this romantic troper wants to believe anyway.
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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?

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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''TheDavinciCode''? ''Literature/TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?
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* How did Alan survive the transition from being trapped in Bird Leg's Cabin to going back to our reality after Zane freed him? He says that his time in the Dark Place has drained him to the point that he's barely conscious driving back to Bright Falls, but shouldn't he be dead? He's had no sleep, food, or drink for a week. I don't think the 'Alan wrote it that way' explanation works because he himself says the story needs to be consistent and I don't see consistency in a protagonist who happens to survive just because the story says so.

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* How did Alan survive the transition from being trapped in Bird Leg's Cabin to going back to our reality after Zane freed him? He says that his time in the Dark Place has drained him to the point that he's barely conscious driving back to Bright Falls, but shouldn't he be dead? He's had no sleep, food, or drink for a week. I don't think the 'Alan wrote it that way' explanation works because he himself says the story needs to be consistent and I don't see consistency in a protagonist who happens to survive just because the story says so.so.
** The longest continous time that a person has gone without sleep is roughly eleven days, so it's not impossible that he could have survived a week. As for food and drink, we don't know for a fact that he wasn't provided with either. Remember, The Dark Presence had a vested interest in keeping him alive, so presumably it took care of any physical needs that came up.
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** ALL fiction is writer self-insertion in one form or another when you deconstruct it enough.

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** ALL fiction is [[WriteWhatYouKnow writer self-insertion self-insertion]] in one form or another when you deconstruct it enough.
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** Also, consider once again that Alan wrote Nightingale to be a diversion--a RedHerring, if you will--to provide Alan a means of escape from the situations where Nightingale confronts Alan. Again, Alan has to write this to be believable to elude the Dark Presence, so he has to throw some risk into it. But Alan knows Nightingale can't stop him because Alan writes crime drama, and Nightingale's hothead tactics do provide Alan his diversion to escape.
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** It works because despite the potential plot hole, it fits with Barry's role as the ComicRelief due to RuleOfFunny.
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** She doesn't exactly have any free time to do this. She has more important things to worry about than whining to a probably uncaring individual in Washington who will likely side with "their" agent over a sherriff of a middle-of-nowhere small town. Remember that at the time, she's overseeing a massive manhunt, multiple missing persons, and ''her entire police department literally vanishing overnight.'' And it goes downhill from there!

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** She doesn't exactly have any free time to do this. She has more important things to worry about than whining to a probably uncaring individual in Washington who will likely side with "their" agent over a sherriff of a middle-of-nowhere small town. Remember that at the time, she's overseeing a massive manhunt, multiple missing persons, and ''her entire police department literally vanishing overnight.'' And it goes downhill from there!there!
* How did Alan survive the transition from being trapped in Bird Leg's Cabin to going back to our reality after Zane freed him? He says that his time in the Dark Place has drained him to the point that he's barely conscious driving back to Bright Falls, but shouldn't he be dead? He's had no sleep, food, or drink for a week. I don't think the 'Alan wrote it that way' explanation works because he himself says the story needs to be consistent and I don't see consistency in a protagonist who happens to survive just because the story says so.
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** Doylian: Alan needs a challenge he can meet. No weapons, the Taken aren't a challenge he can face so the story doesn't throw them at him. Watsonian: The Dark Presence is trying to push Alan back toward the lake so she can re-enslave him. It doesn't understand humans, but it ''does'' understand that the Taken are a blunt instrument and a defenseless Alan will become a dead Alan. A weaponized Alan can be pushed/pulled using Taken.
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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?

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* What's up with that fat cop who apparently had a personal vendetta against authors? I mean, he kept calling Alan stuff like "Dan Brown" or "Steven King" all while trying to kill him. Was he molested by an author as a child or something?? Did he attend a Steven King book signing event once and the man gave him the cold shoulder/didn't appreciate how much of a fan the guy was ala Buddy/Syndrome from TheIncredibles? WesternAnimation/TheIncredibles? Did Dan Brown tell him to GTFO when he pestered him with his own personal theories about ''TheDavinciCode''? Just...''why'' was he so anti-author to the point of murder?
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*** It depends on whether the story written can retroactively change things that have already happened i.e. everything prior to Alan being captured and forced to write by the Dark Presence happened because Alan wrote it that way, or if events that have already happened are fixed, which isn't made definitive. Hell, Bright Falls might only have a power to make art come true, the Dark Presence itself might not have existed before Alan or someone else wrote that it existed.
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** ALL fiction is writer self-insertion in one form or another when you deconstruct it enough.

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**** But even ALAN calls himself a talentless hack. Since Alan is writing his own story, it would make sense that the antagonist would know exactly how to insult the hero in the most condescending way.

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**** But even ** Even ALAN calls himself a talentless hack. Since Alan is writing his own story, it would make sense that the antagonist would know exactly how to insult the hero in the most condescending way.
*** And that the antagonist would get their deserved comeuppance, for that matter.

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*** Exactly. In the few scenes I saw of him in Youtube, he's abrasive, threating to shoot Alan all while insulting him and calling him Stephen King or Dan Brown. Hence why I put this in here.

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*** Exactly. In the few scenes I saw of him in Youtube, he's abrasive, threating threatening to shoot Alan all while insulting him and calling him Stephen King or Dan Brown. Hence why I put this in here.



*** With those names he's basically calling Alan a famous and succesful hack. It's insult towards a person who he considers to have made a lot of money without deserving it. There's no deeper dimension to it.

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*** With those names he's basically calling Alan a famous and succesful successful hack. It's insult towards a person who he considers to have made a lot of money without deserving it. There's no deeper dimension to it.it.
**** But even ALAN calls himself a talentless hack. Since Alan is writing his own story, it would make sense that the antagonist would know exactly how to insult the hero in the most condescending way.

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