History Headscratchers / AgentsOfSHIELD

** But the team was only replaced for maybe 24 hours, unless LMD May started it would be impossible for them to finish in the time they had. Especially since the LMDs were shown spending time around human agents.

** But between the mission where the team was switched with the LMDs and the time when the LMDs tried to take over the base was less than 24 hours. When did they have time to secretly ship crates in?
** This plan was started back in "Hot Potato Soup" when Radcliffe agreed to help the Watchdogs with their plans if they got him the Darkhold. Radcliffe would have sold the Superior the idea that if he wants to kill the Inhumans and get to Coulson they need to replace S.H.I.E.L.D. agents with LMDs as the Inhumans would trust them. They would have then created all the necessary LMDs before S.H.I.E.L.D. found them and launched the rescue op, the scene with Coulson and the Superior's Wall o Crazy was more to by Radcliffe time to make all the LMD's than it was to taunt Coulson. Note- It didn't matter who they were able to capture (Mace/Daisy or both) in "Boom" they just needed ONE and the rest of the main agents would follow. Once on site they would replace as many top agents as they could, by replacing Coulson/Fitz/Mack right off the bat, they would know if any large shipments that were due to arrive shortly after they returned to the Playground, or AIDA hacked the manifests ahead of time to insure the arrival of the LMD!Daisies was shortly after the team returned, with Coulson/Fitz/Mack there to sign off on them and have them moved to a spot where they wouldn't be found right away. The LMDs were made well ahead of time, and timed to arrive shortly after they brought Mace back. It was a BatmanGambit , if the team had made any different moves than they did, stayed together during the whole op and not splitting up, it would have been blown to hell. And it DID since Daisy went "Off Script" and found the LMD fleet before they could grab her for the brain scan.

** AIDA says her main missions are to protect Radcliffe and the Framework. The Inhumans can't be replaced by LMDs (their powers can't be replicated). The only way to stop any potential inhuman from attacking would be to kill them.

** The LMDs in "Self Control" are operating under the Watchdogs orders, and Radcliffe wouldn't be too worried about them killing the KNOWN Inhumans, he knows all about Terrigen and how it's already in the water supply and that more will show up eventually. He also has a nice supply of pure Terrigen to make more if his research going in that direction. In his PoV letting a 'few' Inhumans die now will be for the greater good later. Once the Watchdogs think they have 'won' or if they turn against him, he can flip the LMDs switch and eliminate the Watchdogs and cancel the Inhuman killing order, this is a Win-Win for Radcliffe with LMD's controlling SHIELD he has a nice pipeline of Inhuman subjects if he ever goes back to that line of research.

* So, AIDA and the Russian's plan to use a LMD Daisy to shoot Talbot as a way to intensify anti-Inhuman sentiment by discrediting Daisy is a good idea in principle, but... what about the surveillance cameras? Won't they catch the fact that there were two Daisies running around and that some of the representatives were LMDs themselves? That's not also mentioning other cameras in the building that would've presumably had footage of Ghost Rider flaying the LMD Daisy with his chain while the real deal was in the same room.
** The room where Daisy and Ghost Rider fight the LMDs didn't look like it would have cameras in it. It looked like a closet or storage room. And Talbot (and therefore probably others in the military) know about the nanomask that allows people to change their face. So the train of thought would be Daisy shot Talbot and another female wore the mask and barged in as a way to give Daisy an alibi. And the LMDs all get incinerated, so there's little evidence that they were there. The two Russians surviving getting shot could likewise be handwaved as them wearing body armor. Also there is clearly tension between humans and Inhumans, the plan doesn't need to be perfect or foolproof. It just needs to be believable enough for the world leaders at the conference.

** "Hey, you! Super-powered freaks, you are under arrest!" [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome What do you think will happen next?]]

** Another case in point: Skye shouldn't have hacked into the database in the first place. She wouldn't have had access full stop if it hadn't have been for Simmons. What if Skye had decided to do the right thing, or Simmons hadn't been as worried? Ward would have probably survived, but Fitz probably wouldn't have made it out. So, why not tell Coulson that he has to provide Ward and Fitz with extraction because all other assets are needed elsewhere? This would have meant that Ward and Fitz would know exactly what they should expect for the extraction (a big hovering plane), so they would have also been able to get to a more suitable extraction point on time. Also, Hand wouldn't have had a very understandably angry Coulson barge in during the middle of a major operation, Simmons wouldn't be as worried about Fitz, and Skye wouldn't have tried to hack into the S.H.I.E.L.D. Database. Agent Hand is not a good [[IncrediblyLamePun right hand]] to have.

** Now an Unreveal: Hand was loyal all along, but apparently suspected Coulson. This makes her actions in retrospect somewhat understandable; rather than carrying the IdiotBall and/or the ConflictBall this whole time, she thought that Coulson was a traitor and his entire team was compromised, but lacked the evidence to make a formal accusation. Hence her actions not to get them outright killed, but to leave them in situations where they had to keep themselves from getting killed. Once the civil war in S.H.I.E.L.D. began she ended up on the right side. Kind of makes you feel bad that Ward shot her dead, doesn't it?.

** How many options does she have? (Given that she is once more forced to carry the IdiotBall and ConflictBall at the same time (one could say [[IncrediblyLamePun she has her Hands full]]), but that's plot related, not character, so it's not really relevant to why she did what she did.) She is aware that another organization has infiltrated her own, but has no real idea who is in it or even how many members there are. She needs a quick and dirty test to determine who might belong to this enemy group, or maybe even more importantly, who ''doesn't'' belong to it and might still be loyal to her. So, she uses the method seen. Maybe she was planning to arrest all those who agreed to pledge to HYDRA and sort it out later, but she figured that anyone who refused as vehemently as Simmons and Triplett, and then fought for S.H.I.E.L.D., was a safe bet to be loyal. Except for an agent in deep deep cover like Ward, who was so committed to his superior's survival that he would actually help capture him alive, so he could rescue him later....

* Nick Fury has secret bases, presumably dozens all over the planet. That makes perfect sense. He or someone very high up contacted Coulson with coordinates to said secret base. Still makes perfect sense. There are serious problem with this though. First the base is so well hidden that Coulson is literally standing on top of it and only notices it because he hurls his badge in frustration. (The turret was designed to shoot fast moving metallic objects and might never have given away its position to them just wandering around and despite looking for it everybody present FailedASpotCheck pretty spectacularly. A base you can't find with directions to the front door is a bit too well hidden. Then worse, when they get in the caretaker is still keeping secrets from the team but allows Skye to call out on her cell phone of all things to an agent in the field? It's not like she snuck away she did it in plain sight and he asks who's she calling instead of just stopping her. Even if Ward wasn't with HYDRA calling out on a cell phone from a secured location is some serious amateur hour bullshit that someone should have stopped.
** It's probably some crazy untraceable S.H.I.E.L.D. cell phone. Also the caretaker is in the other room with Coulson when she makes the call.

* In "The Only Light in the Darkness", why does Erik Koenig, trained S.H.I.E.L.D. agent, expert interrogator, and Nick Fury's hand-picked house-sitter, turn into [[WhatAnIdiot a total idiot]] when he's interrogating Ward? He was properly paranoid about not being able to trust Coulson's team when they first arrive, refuses to give them any sensitive information until after they pass debriefing, and is even savvy enough to ''draw a gun on Ward'' when he suspects him to be a HYDRA agent... yet even with his super-sensitive lie detector flashing red lights all over the place, he easily lets bygones be bygones after one oddly-worded answer. At the very least, why didn't he talk to Coulson, May, or one of the other agents he's ''already'' established as trustworthy to keep an eye on Ward?

* apart from the obvious real world reason, I get that Civil War takes place roughly around about near the end of this season, but beforehand what stopped them calling in some of the Avengers for Hive, by the time Hive got back to our world we knew Kree blood is what made Inhumans, and as far as we were aware Hive could only infect Inhumans with Sway, so like any Avenger who isn't an Inhuman (I.E everyone in the team) could have taken on Hive, who as far as we can tell, was trying to take over the world, literally the only Avenger who could come close to being Inhuman is Captain Marvel (she got a Kree transfusion at some point that might of made her count) hell if the Inhumans Tv show is considered anywhere near canon, Black Bolt could whisper at hive from a mile away and pulverize him. Hive seemed very Avengers worthy threat.

*** Honestly it isn;t even really necessary to shunt AOS seasons 6 and 7 into alternate continuity. Even if the seasons don't mention the Snap, that doesn't prove in itself that it didn't happen in series. That's the same semi-faulty logic others use to argue that the Marvel TV shows as a whole aren't canon; absence of references in the movies doesn't prove absence of the shows themselves, and I think its the same here. The meta reasons why they couldn't reference the Snap aftermath make sense, and in-universe, while it may possibly stretch suspicion of disbelief, its not impossible that the characters simply don't talk about it, and its ultimately not relevant to the story that Seasons 6 and 7 end up telling. Season 7 in particular has the team time traveling, with only a very brief amount of time spent in the present, and it does end up confirming that End Game rules of time travel are in effect.

*** Series/Loki2021 could, ''possibly'', address this. Presumably, the Time Variance Authority should have pruned the Agents of Shield timeline if it diverged from the Sacred Timeline in an unauthorized way. But if the Sacred Timeline ends up splintered by the end of the series, turning the MCU into a true multiverse, then the Agents of Shield timeline could be one of them.]

* Are Sarge's Squad of Pax and Snowflake a case of OurHumansAreDifferent or are they {{Demihuman}}. Or could they be from [[Series/{{Loki|2021}}]]'s race, possibly, unless that's WMG?

** He's the one who stitched her back together enough for her HealingFactor to kick back in, so he knew, but the story only changes slightly. Instead of a lone CrusadingWidower searching for his daughter, it was ''both'' of them cutting a bloody path around the world trying to find her. Every time he saw her scars, he'd be reminded of what Whitehall did to her. She eventually [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realized that they had become monsters]] and gave up the search, but Cal didn't, and without his wife rage was all he had to sustain himself. Simple as that. The PsychoSerum certainly didn't help.

* so after the events of ''Civil War'' Bobbi, Mack and a few other agents took ''The Iliad'' and started up the stupidly named "Real" S.H.I.E.L.D, from what has been told, Barring what HYDRA snapped up in the coup and the government seized, they have been going around "salvaging" everything else Team Coulson could've used to... usurp Coulson, while at the same time only doing that by sending 2 agents, at no point are we told that they have done anything else with their time except that, which meant that the rest of them were sitting pretty on a ship, and after the events of ''Aftershocks'' they take that as justification of what they ''thought'' Coulson was doing and stage another coup on Coulson, it is pointed out and deflected by them constantly that Team Coulson could have ''really'' used the help and resources they have been hoarding away on their little boat, so at any point is it ever explained exactly what they have been doing with their time apart from trying to take over the group that has actually ''doing their damn job'' instead of treating their actual ''appointed by Fury himself'' leader like the devil incarnate?