History Headscratchers / AgentsOfSHIELD

3rd May '16 1:22:44 PM StFan
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** HYDRA is more of an idea. Carter thought she got rid of them all back in the 50's, but that clearly wasn't the case. As long as there are people with drive to see themselves above others and the resources to pursue that goal, there will be a HYDRA.

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** HYDRA is more of an idea. Carter thought she got rid of them all back in the 50's, '50s, but that clearly wasn't the case. As long as there are people with drive to see themselves above others and the resources to pursue that goal, there will be a HYDRA.



** In the context of ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'', HYDRA makes for a convenient recurring menace, so possibly not. List's fate was never confirmed in ''Age Of Ultron'', so it's possible he could return as HYDRA's leader in Season 3. Or perhaps a new character, either someone from the comics or a CanonForeigner, will seize control. But in the context of the movies, yes, HYDRA is most likely done.
** Let's not forget, CaptainAmericaCivilWar has Baron Zemo confirmed as a character. Given his past history with HYDRA for BOTH father and son Zemo, it's probable that HYDRA still can have steam to keep going both in movies and in the show for the immediate future.

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** In the context of ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'', HYDRA makes for a convenient recurring menace, so possibly not. List's fate was never confirmed in ''Age Of of Ultron'', so it's possible he could return as HYDRA's leader in Season 3. Or perhaps a new character, either someone from the comics or a CanonForeigner, will seize control. But in the context of the movies, yes, HYDRA is most likely done.
** Let's not forget, CaptainAmericaCivilWar ''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'' has Baron Zemo confirmed as a character. Given his past history with HYDRA for BOTH father and son Zemo, it's probable that HYDRA still can have steam to keep going both in movies and in the show for the immediate future.
21st Apr '16 8:04:35 AM Tuvok
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** Not only that the only ones who knew that the Fish Oil was activating the Inhuman Gene was SHIELD. Who along with the ATC took measures to remove the contaminated stock from the shelves. It was never revealed to the public the source of the new Inhuman outbreak which was why the media and most people thought it was some sort of virus. If the public didn't know the source then James definitely didn't.
14th Apr '16 5:56:17 PM Discar
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** He's a CrazySurvivalist who has cut himself off from civilization, partly because he's sure that Jiaying is going to send someone to kill him any day now. He's just not paying enough attention to the outside world. As for getting accidentally infected, he's out in the middle of the desert, quite literally the ''last'' place that a water-based infection will spread. He might eventually get randomly empowered, but it's gonna take a while. The reason Lincoln didn't tell him is because he believes that Jiaying was right in limiting the spread of powers, especially to unstable people. Earlier Lincoln was all on board using Creel's blood as a vaccine. He just doesn't think James can be trusted with powers. And considering what James has done with mundane guns and bombs, he probably has a point.
14th Apr '16 3:29:26 PM TheMysteriousTroper
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** Agreed, you would only really notice that she had Maya's face after geting the burn if you pause the episode. It was so quick it would be hard to notice normally. And for a more "in universe" answer, maybe the charge overloaded the mask revealing Agent 33's face right after the volt but returned to a normal setting afterwards, leaving her with Agent May's face.

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** Agreed, you would only really notice that she had Maya's face after geting getting the burn if you pause the episode. It was so quick it would be hard to notice normally. And for a more "in universe" answer, maybe the charge overloaded the mask revealing Agent 33's face right after the volt but returned to a normal setting afterwards, leaving her with Agent May's face.



** Avengers: Age of Ultron sheds some light on this. In the movie it was mentioned that the Avengers had been looking for Loki's scepter for months. It is likely that the Avengers were fighting Hydra in Europe looking for the scepter the same time season 2 is taking place.
** Post Age of Ultron:
### Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye are still trying to get the Avengers back up and running after AoU and have a few new recruits to train, namely Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ant-man, and Falcon. Cap is also trying to find Bucky.
### Thor is trying to figure out his vision from Age of Ultron.

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** Avengers: ''Avengers: Age of Ultron Ultron'' sheds some light on this. In the movie it was mentioned that the Avengers had been looking for Loki's scepter for months. It is likely that the Avengers were fighting Hydra HYDRA in Europe looking for the scepter the same time season 2 is taking place.
** Post Age ''Age of Ultron:
Ultron'':
### Black Widow, Captain America, and Hawkeye are still trying to get the Avengers back up and running after AoU and have a few new recruits to train, namely Scarlet Witch, Vision, Ant-man, Ant-Man, and Falcon. Cap is also trying to find Bucky.
### Thor is trying to figure out his vision from Age ''Age of Ultron.Ultron''.



* After Whitehall and the Council, Bakshi is dead now too (and was brainwashed before) and as we know from Age of Ultron, List and Strucker are dead too. Is HYDRA done for now? Or who could take leadership now?

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* After Whitehall and the Council, Bakshi is dead now too (and was brainwashed before) and as we know from Age ''Age of Ultron, Ultron'', List and Strucker are dead too. Is HYDRA done for now? Or who could take leadership now?



** In the context of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., HYDRA makes for a convenient recurring menace, so possibly not. List's fate was never confirmed in Age Of Ultron, so it's possible he could return as HYDRA's leader in Season 3. Or perhaps a new character, either someone from the comics or a CanonForeigner, will seize control. But in the context of the movies, yes, HYDRA is most likely done.

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** In the context of Agents ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., '', HYDRA makes for a convenient recurring menace, so possibly not. List's fate was never confirmed in Age ''Age Of Ultron, Ultron'', so it's possible he could return as HYDRA's leader in Season 3. Or perhaps a new character, either someone from the comics or a CanonForeigner, will seize control. But in the context of the movies, yes, HYDRA is most likely done.



* No percent is ever given for how many people are actually inhumans. Only that they are difficult to detect even with modern genetics until ''after'' being exposed and that they have descendants around the globe. She seemed to have expected at least a few amongst the present crew of the ship. The powers appear to be entirely random, especially if we're talking about powers that are of use in combat. Given that was Jiaying truly so far gone that she didn't see the huge flaw with killing say 99.99% of the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. but giving the remainder super powers? Note that she only seemed to have three people with good enough combat powers to take on regular agents.

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* No percent is ever given for how many people are actually inhumans.Inhumans. Only that they are difficult to detect even with modern genetics until ''after'' being exposed and that they have descendants around the globe. She seemed to have expected at least a few amongst among the present crew of the ship. The powers appear to be entirely random, especially if we're talking about powers that are of use in combat. Given that was Jiaying truly so far gone that she didn't see the huge flaw with killing say 99.99% of the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. but giving the remainder super powers? Note that she only seemed to have three people with good enough combat powers to take on regular agents.



** I don't think it was really underdeveloped. It was more a specific period, and we saw them overcome it, rather than stayed in it as a status quo. Right after the turning point, HYDRA had all the upper hand against S.H.I.E.L.D.: more facilities, more manpower, more toys, less interference from other agencies, etc. But, from then on, they gradually restore their good standing, and gradually blown HYDRA to pieces. Now Hydra is basically just Ward's band of thugs, and that was all their doing, and we saw the whole process on-screen.

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** I don't think it was really underdeveloped. It was more a specific period, and we saw them overcome it, rather than stayed in it as a status quo. Right after the turning point, HYDRA had all the upper hand against S.H.I.E.L.D.: more facilities, more manpower, more toys, less interference from other agencies, etc. But, from then on, they gradually restore their good standing, and gradually blown HYDRA to pieces. Now Hydra HYDRA is basically just Ward's band of thugs, and that was all their doing, and we saw the whole process on-screen.



* I totally get that the terrigen compund from season two would spread through the ocean as dissolved things in the ocean may, but I'm not sure how it'd spread through the ''ecosystem'' per se. It isn't like it really gets carried up into precipitation because... terrigen rain would probably render the team's clampdown on fish oil redundant, so I fail to see how it'd spread to freshwater sources, or areas other than the oceans: the simulation seen in one of the early season three episodes seems to indicate that the compound has infiltrated inland areas worldwide.

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* I totally get that the terrigen compund compound from season two would spread through the ocean as dissolved things in the ocean may, but I'm not sure how it'd spread through the ''ecosystem'' per se. It isn't like it really gets carried up into precipitation because... terrigen rain would probably render the team's clampdown on fish oil redundant, so I fail to see how it'd spread to freshwater sources, or areas other than the oceans: the simulation seen in one of the early season three episodes seems to indicate that the compound has infiltrated inland areas worldwide.



* Everyone is attacking Hunter as if it's his fault Andrew was hurt. He didn't beat him up and try to kill him. Hydra did. Ward had his men in place already. Is he actually going to spare Andrew if he escapes? The guy is a stone cold sociopath and Hydra to boot. What Hunter did was the best of a crap situation. I can understand why May is upset and Coulson seems only pissed he failed. But Daisy and Mack are pretty uncool about it.

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* Everyone is attacking Hunter as if it's his fault Andrew was hurt. He didn't beat him up and try to kill him. Hydra HYDRA did. Ward had his men in place already. Is he actually going to spare Andrew if he escapes? The guy is a stone cold sociopath and Hydra HYDRA to boot. What Hunter did was the best of a crap situation. I can understand why May is upset and Coulson seems only pissed he failed. But Daisy and Mack are pretty uncool about it.



** First of all, you do know S.H.I.E.L.D. never tortured Ward right? You're using torture as why they treated Ward worse then Cal. S.H.I.E.L.D. never tortured Ward, they imprisoned him as a dangerous terrorist ( as you do for people who are part of terrorist organizations ) but never tortured him. Ward harmed himself while they locked him up. So trying to use that as justification as how he is being treated worse then Cal doesn't work. Second they gave Ward a chance to redeem himself in the second part of season two, they offered him project Tahiti and Ward decided to torture a team member and attempt to kill more S.H.I.E.L.D. agents in the name of ''closure''. Cal actually attempted to do the right thing, helped stop Jaying. Hence he got a fresh start. Third, Ward was treated no worse then Cal despite how he affected his team and S.H.I.E.L.D. more. His betrayal cost S.H.I.E.L.D. one of their leaders. His attempted murder of Fitzsimmons lead to permanent damage emotionally and mentally. His intel and actions lead to dozens of superpowered and dangerous criminals loose on an unsuspecting public and advanced weaponry in hands of Hydra. Damage wise, numbers wise Ward has done more damage. Lastly, both where treated the same, as dangerous criminals. But only one of them tried to make at least half an effort to he right thing. Hell, the only semi-decent thing Ward did was leave Kara with S.H.I.E.L.D. Event that of was one his ploys to kidnap Bobbi to brutally torture Bobbi ( actual Torture that happened, unlike Ward's case) in a hypocritical attempt to get her to admit she did wrong,while he never has. In summation S.H.I.E.L.D. treated Ward and Cal EXACTLY the same. Damaged and dangerous people. One got a second chance for his actions, the other did not for his actions

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** First of all, you do know S.H.I.E.L.D. never tortured Ward right? You're using torture as why they treated Ward worse then Cal. S.H.I.E.L.D. never tortured Ward, they imprisoned him as a dangerous terrorist ( as you do for people who are part of terrorist organizations ) but never tortured him. Ward harmed himself while they locked him up. So trying to use that as justification as how he is being treated worse then Cal doesn't work. Second they gave Ward a chance to redeem himself in the second part of season two, they offered him project Tahiti and Ward decided to torture a team member and attempt to kill more S.H.I.E.L.D. agents in the name of ''closure''. Cal actually attempted to do the right thing, helped stop Jaying. Hence he got a fresh start. Third, Ward was treated no worse then Cal despite how he affected his team and S.H.I.E.L.D. more. His betrayal cost S.H.I.E.L.D. one of their leaders. His attempted murder of Fitzsimmons lead to permanent damage emotionally and mentally. His intel and actions lead to dozens of superpowered and dangerous criminals loose on an unsuspecting public and advanced weaponry in hands of Hydra.HYDRA. Damage wise, numbers wise Ward has done more damage. Lastly, both where treated the same, as dangerous criminals. But only one of them tried to make at least half an effort to he right thing. Hell, the only semi-decent thing Ward did was leave Kara with S.H.I.E.L.D. Event that of was one his ploys to kidnap Bobbi to brutally torture Bobbi ( actual Torture that happened, unlike Ward's case) in a hypocritical attempt to get her to admit she did wrong,while he never has. In summation S.H.I.E.L.D. treated Ward and Cal EXACTLY the same. Damaged and dangerous people. One got a second chance for his actions, the other did not for his actions



** Okay Fitz torturing Ward does not count as S.H.I.E.L.D. torturing Ward. Fitz one person doing one act, S.H.I.E.L.D. torturing Ward would be tearing out finger nails. One person acting does not count as torture by S.H.I.E.L.D. Ward was imprisoned, not tortured. You keep saying he was imprisoned for months and tortured. Imprisoned, yes for being a member of a terrorist group and killing S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. As for planning to execute Ward at a later date, they never said they planned to do that. Also even if they did, he was part of a group that murdered S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. Saying Centipede was never part of Hydra does little comfort to the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents that they killed. Murderers get death row, Ward is made exempt how? But he was never tortured, you keep saying he was but ne never was. Also in show he refused to talk until he got what he wanted. Which was to talk to Skye, which he tried to manipulate into helping him escape. He didnít give them any Intelligence until he got what he wanted. That is not helpful to them, as for being sold off they exchanged a genuine prisoner who committed criminal acts to a legitimate government body. As for Coulson offering Ward a way out to find Skye, he gave Ward a person who in no way earned it. A chance at a second chance in order to save a fellow agent. Ward showed no indication of guilt for his actions, never indication of remorse. Only using his intelligence in order to get closer to Skye. He was given a second chance he did not deserve and used it to put a damaged Agent 33 in place in order to kidnap and torture Bobbi. The original point was why Cal and Ward where treated different. In the end, both Cal and Ward where treated the same. They where locked up for being dangerous and unstable murderers. Ward was never tortured, not by S.H.I.E.L.D. the only harm came at his own hands and Fitzís hands.The only difference in the two is that one tried to make up for it.

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** Okay Fitz torturing Ward does not count as S.H.I.E.L.D. torturing Ward. Fitz one person doing one act, S.H.I.E.L.D. torturing Ward would be tearing out finger nails. One person acting does not count as torture by S.H.I.E.L.D. Ward was imprisoned, not tortured. You keep saying he was imprisoned for months and tortured. Imprisoned, yes for being a member of a terrorist group and killing S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. As for planning to execute Ward at a later date, they never said they planned to do that. Also even if they did, he was part of a group that murdered S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. Saying Centipede was never part of Hydra HYDRA does little comfort to the S.H.I.E.L.D. agents that they killed. Murderers get death row, Ward is made exempt how? But he was never tortured, you keep saying he was but ne never was. Also in show he refused to talk until he got what he wanted. Which was to talk to Skye, which he tried to manipulate into helping him escape. He didnít give them any Intelligence until he got what he wanted. That is not helpful to them, as for being sold off they exchanged a genuine prisoner who committed criminal acts to a legitimate government body. As for Coulson offering Ward a way out to find Skye, he gave Ward a person who in no way earned it. A chance at a second chance in order to save a fellow agent. Ward showed no indication of guilt for his actions, never indication of remorse. Only using his intelligence in order to get closer to Skye. He was given a second chance he did not deserve and used it to put a damaged Agent 33 in place in order to kidnap and torture Bobbi. The original point was why Cal and Ward where treated different. In the end, both Cal and Ward where treated the same. They where locked up for being dangerous and unstable murderers. Ward was never tortured, not by S.H.I.E.L.D. the only harm came at his own hands and Fitzís hands.The only difference in the two is that one tried to make up for it.



* When Coulson sends a team to look into the Hydra-NASA cult, Fitzsimmons and Banks (along with some ATCU personnel) go check it out. And then get their butts whopped by a single Inhuman. That made me wonder why Coulson didn't send Daisy out with them. As far as I recall, there was no reason not to - Bobbi would've reported the Telekinetic Asian Man (TAM) to Coulson, giving him reason to send an Inhuman along with their search team. Even if TAM wasn't specifically there, shouldn't he have anticipated that some Inhuman guards would be present at the facility of a group that's been harvesting them? Additionally, why was Fitzsimmons so badly-armed? They had no guns, no EMPS, no anything besides phones. Not even the dwarves. Is it just them grasping the idiot ball?

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* When Coulson sends a team to look into the Hydra-NASA HYDRA-NASA cult, Fitzsimmons and Banks (along with some ATCU personnel) go check it out. And then get their butts whopped by a single Inhuman. That made me wonder why Coulson didn't send Daisy out with them. As far as I recall, there was no reason not to - Bobbi would've reported the Telekinetic Asian Man (TAM) to Coulson, giving him reason to send an Inhuman along with their search team. Even if TAM wasn't specifically there, shouldn't he have anticipated that some Inhuman guards would be present at the facility of a group that's been harvesting them? Additionally, why was Fitzsimmons so badly-armed? They had no guns, no EMPS, no anything besides phones. Not even the dwarves. Is it just them grasping the idiot ball?



** I know Malick said Hydra has been around longer than the Red Skull, but I don't really think his Hydra was necessarily the same as the Red Skull's. Remember Malick said the organization had many different names over the centuries. The chances are Red Skull might have heard of an ancient sect or order (the movies established he was a big buff on that type of thing) and was inspired to create his Hydra. At least back in WWII his Hydra's goal was conquest. I think Malick's order more or less just integrated into Hydra when Zola reformed it within S.H.I.E.L.D. over the years when he was picking like minded followers (which people of this sect would probably be). Hydra's end goal has always been world conquest, but each head as mentioned above has their own idea of how to do it. Red Skull planned to use the cube and new tech to conquer the world. Zola wanted to make people so afraid that they willingly gave up their freedom for security. Strucker wanted to create enhanced people and use alien tech to conquer the world. Whitehall wanted to use the obelisk. Now that Malick is head he wants to free the Inhuman as his Hydra order originally wanted to do centuries ago. Whoever is head is the one who decides where to take Hydra on a whole and some act on their own (Strucker gave up other Hydra cells to the Avengers to buy time for his plan). All in all I doubt Red Skull's Hydra was connected to the old order Malick was describing and that the two Hydras didn't become one until Zola's reign as head.

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** I know Malick said Hydra HYDRA has been around longer than the Red Skull, but I don't really think his Hydra HYDRA was necessarily the same as the Red Skull's. Remember Malick said the organization had many different names over the centuries. The chances are Red Skull might have heard of an ancient sect or order (the movies established he was a big buff on that type of thing) and was inspired to create his Hydra. HYDRA. At least back in WWII his Hydra's HYDRA's goal was conquest. I think Malick's order more or less just integrated into Hydra HYDRA when Zola reformed it within S.H.I.E.L.D. over the years when he was picking like minded like-minded followers (which people of this sect would probably be). Hydra's HYDRA's end goal has always been world conquest, but each head as mentioned above has their own idea of how to do it. Red Skull planned to use the cube and new tech to conquer the world. Zola wanted to make people so afraid that they willingly gave up their freedom for security. Strucker wanted to create enhanced people and use alien tech to conquer the world. Whitehall wanted to use the obelisk. Now that Malick is head he wants to free the Inhuman as his Hydra HYDRA order originally wanted to do centuries ago. Whoever is head is the one who decides where to take Hydra on HYDRA as a whole and some act on their own (Strucker gave up other Hydra HYDRA cells to the Avengers to buy time for his plan). All in all I doubt Red Skull's Hydra HYDRA was connected to the old order Malick was describing and that the two Hydras HYDRA didn't become one until Zola's reign as head.



** They weren't Hydra?
** Perhaps they were neither S.H.I.E.L.D. or Hydra, but just standard police. Coulson knew about the event simply by turning on his TV.

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** They weren't Hydra?
HYDRA?
** Perhaps they were neither S.H.I.E.L.D. or Hydra, HYDRA, but just standard police. Coulson knew about the event simply by turning on his TV.
14th Apr '16 2:54:56 PM TheMysteriousTroper
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[[folder:James not knowing about alternative ways he could have activated his powers?]]
* With the rate at which the ecosystem is being penetrated with Terrigen (as evidenced by Charles undergoing Terrigenesis by getting ''rained on''), it's surprising he hasn't lucked into his abilities by contaminated food or water already. It's practically inevitable. So why, with his obsession with Inhumans lore and receiving powers, is James so in the dark about what's going on? Why was Lincoln so aggressively hindering James attempts at getting powers? Why even bring the crystal at all? Why not just tell him about fish oil? Had James ever hurt somebody?
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14th Apr '16 12:16:02 PM hunter139
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** "Paradise Lost" seems to confirm that there were/are two separate blocs within HYDRA: The group who followed the Ancient Cult like Malick and his family, and those who followed the Red Skull's goals on scientific knowledge like Whitehall. While both groups ultimately wished to conquer the world, they clearly disagreed on the methods and motives for doing so. Because of this, we can safely assume that the majority of HYDRA we see in the movies subscribed to Red Skull's philosophy over Malick's.
30th Mar '16 12:31:30 PM Discar
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*** Which raises the question of what precisely is an Inhuman. The events of season 3 reveal that while it's a clearly a small percentage of the human population the Inhumans are definitely mixed in with the general population. If being an Inhuman only counts if you have gone through terragenesis that's one thing. However if just having the gene makes you an Inhuman it would be next to impossible to keep from occasionally sending Inhumans through to feed It/Hive.[[/folder]]

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*** ** Which raises the question of what precisely is an Inhuman. The events of season 3 reveal that while it's a clearly a small percentage of the human population the Inhumans are definitely mixed in with the general population. If being an Inhuman only counts if you have gone through terragenesis that's one thing. However if just having the gene makes you an Inhuman it would be next to impossible to keep from occasionally sending Inhumans through to feed It/Hive.It/Hive.
** Any Inhumans they sent through would die. Maybe some would last a while like Will, but in the end it doesn't really matter whether Hive could feed on them before Terrigenesis or not. It was barely getting enough food either way.

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23rd Mar '16 8:41:34 AM ObsidianFire
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** A friend and I were also talking about this exact thing when it happened. We came to the conclusion that either [[spoiler: Coulson didn't know Garrett was still alive and just grabbed the 0-8-4 to dispose of the body. Or Coulson suspected that Garrett was still alive and waited outside the room with the 0-8-4 until he heard Garrett begin to monologue, at which point he just blasted Garrett.]] Either fit Coulson because he's Genre Savvy and knows how to deal with things like this.

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** A friend and I were also talking about this exact thing when it happened. We came to the conclusion that either [[spoiler: Coulson didn't know Garrett was still alive and just grabbed the 0-8-4 to dispose of the body. Or Coulson suspected that Garrett was still alive and waited outside the room with the 0-8-4 until he heard Garrett begin to monologue, at which point he just blasted Garrett.]] Either fit Coulson because he's Genre Savvy and he knows how to deal with things like this.
17th Mar '16 2:04:12 PM SeanRenaud
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** As shown in "The Inside Man" It/Hive feeds off humans as both a host and to sustain said host, with the cavets that a host must be dead before It/Hive can use it and cannot 'feed on it's own kind' AKA other Inhumans. So its likely that Will and all the others that went into the Monolith before him were HYDRA's attempts to keep It/Hive alive until a way could be found to make the return trip. In the early days they picked the 'food' from their own ranks by lottery. Later when they had access to NASA and all the nice healthy strong Astronauts there they decided to no longer pull from their own ranks and shove non-HYDRA offerings through for It/Hive's dinner. While possible that Will could have been HYDRA there is enough there to show he didn't have to be HYDRA to have been picked to go to that planet.[[/folder]]

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** As shown in "The Inside Man" It/Hive feeds off humans as both a host and to sustain said host, with the cavets that a host must be dead before It/Hive can use it and cannot 'feed on it's own kind' AKA other Inhumans. So its likely that Will and all the others that went into the Monolith before him were HYDRA's attempts to keep It/Hive alive until a way could be found to make the return trip. In the early days they picked the 'food' from their own ranks by lottery. Later when they had access to NASA and all the nice healthy strong Astronauts there they decided to no longer pull from their own ranks and shove non-HYDRA offerings through for It/Hive's dinner. While possible that Will could have been HYDRA there is enough there to show he didn't have to be HYDRA to have been picked to go to that planet.planet.
*** Which raises the question of what precisely is an Inhuman. The events of season 3 reveal that while it's a clearly a small percentage of the human population the Inhumans are definitely mixed in with the general population. If being an Inhuman only counts if you have gone through terragenesis that's one thing. However if just having the gene makes you an Inhuman it would be next to impossible to keep from occasionally sending Inhumans through to feed It/Hive.
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16th Mar '16 7:04:20 AM ShadowWingLG
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** As shown in "The Inside Man" It/Hive feeds off humans as both a host and to sustain said host, with the cavets that a host must be dead before It/Hive can use it and cannot 'feed on it's own kind' AKA other Inhumans. So its likely that Will and all the others that went into the Monolith before him were HYDRA's attempts to keep It/Hive alive until a way could be found to make the return trip. In the early days they picked the 'food' from their own ranks by lottery. Later when they had access to NASA and all the nice healthy strong Astronauts there they decided to no longer pull from their own ranks and shove non-HYDRA offerings through for It/Hive's dinner. While possible that Will could have been HYDRA there is enough there to show he didn't have to be HYDRA to have been picked to go to that planet.[[/folder]]
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