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*** The giant bird doesn't bother to incapacitate Kitai all that much to feed to her young, the panther is more interested in the baby birds than Kitai, and the monkey only really gets going after Kitai throws rocks at it. Honestly, "Everything evolved to kill humans" rings pretty hollow when the only creature that goes out of it's way to attack Kitai on it's own is the river parasite and even after poisoning him it's non fatal.

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*** The giant bird doesn't bother to incapacitate Kitai all that much to feed to her young, the panther is more interested in the baby birds than Kitai, and the monkey only really gets going after Kitai throws rocks at it. Honestly, "Everything evolved to kill humans" rings pretty hollow when the only creature that goes out of it's its way to attack Kitai on it's own is the river parasite and even after poisoning him it's non fatal.non-fatal.



*** But that planet's atmospehere is apparently toxic to humans... somehow, see the next point below. Regardless, if it's an unsolvable problem then why would they need any other deterrent? And if it was solvable then why ''wouldn't'' any of the humans want to resettle their home planet?

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*** But that planet's atmospehere atmosphere is apparently toxic to humans... somehow, see the next point below. Regardless, if it's an unsolvable problem then why would they need any other deterrent? And if it was solvable then why ''wouldn't'' any of the humans want to resettle their home planet?



*** Maybe is the exact opposite; the planet has too much oxygen, after all they do live in a planet with maybe less oxygen and/or ships with limited oxygen so they get sick for so many oxygen. Silly, but the movie has many problems anyway...
*** If anything the more logical explanation would be that it's Nova Prime that has more oxygen and over the centuries humans adapted to that level, it's like comparing people who live at sea level to those who spend all their time in the high mountains, swap places and until they adapt the former will be easily winded while the later has seemingly boundless energy. Kitai probably would have acclimated given enough time that they didn't have.

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*** Maybe it is the exact opposite; the planet has too much oxygen, after all they do live in a planet with maybe less oxygen and/or ships with limited oxygen so they get sick for from so many much oxygen. Silly, but the movie has many problems anyway...
*** If anything anything, the more logical explanation would be that it's Nova Prime that has more oxygen and over the centuries humans adapted to that level, it's like comparing people who live at sea level to those who spend all their time in the high mountains, swap places and until they adapt the former will be easily winded while the later has seemingly boundless energy. Kitai probably would have acclimated given enough time that they didn't have.



* Where on Earth (literally) are these folks? Did they crash land in an old national park? According to the backstory we took over MORE of earth after the time this movie came out - where are all the ruined cities, etc? Not even a little piece of junk sitting around!

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* Where on Earth (literally) are these folks? Did they crash land in an old national park? According to the backstory we took over MORE of earth after the time this movie came out - where are all the ruined cities, etc? etc.? Not even a little piece of junk sitting around!



** Going by the cave paintings in one scene and overall area, I would say somewhere in Europe, seeing as those particular cave paintings looked familiar as the ones in either France or Spain.

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** Going by the cave paintings in one scene and overall area, I would say somewhere in Europe, seeing as those particular cave paintings looked familiar as resembled the ones in either France or Spain.



** That and there are plenty of green projectiles that evidently no one uses. If they're already going to regress to using sharp sticks, why not use bows too? With their technology it'd be pretty easy to make a sort of preloaded multi shot crossbow side arm with toxic arrow heads.

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** That and there are plenty of green projectiles that evidently no one uses. If they're already going to regress to using sharp sticks, why not use bows too? With their technology it'd be pretty easy to make a sort of preloaded multi shot multi-shot crossbow side arm with toxic arrow heads.



* I guess animal life could use the same geothermal hotspots that Kitai uses in tbe movie, but how do plants from a tropical forest survive being frozen solid every night?

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* I guess animal life could use the same geothermal hotspots that Kitai uses in tbe the movie, but how do plants from a tropical forest survive being frozen solid every night?
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*** To be fair, Cypher never actually stated that the pincer in question was still ''attached'' to the Ursa. Bladed weapons are standard human equipment in this 'verse, after all.
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*** But that planet's atmospehere is apparently toxic to humans... somehow, see the next point below. Regardless, if it's an unsolvable problem then why would they need any other deterrent? And if it was solvable then why ''wouldn't'' any of the humans want to resettle their home planet?
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*** Or race up a mountainside full of ''molten lava pools'' without getting roasted, for that matter? Kitai himself had to jump or scramble past several of those on his way up the volcano, yet a creature that can't ''feel'' evidently sidestepped them all.

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*** Or race up a mountainside full of ''molten lava pools'' without getting roasted, for that matter? Kitai himself had to jump or scramble past several of those on his way up the volcano, yet a creature that can't ''feel'' sense light ''or'' heat evidently sidestepped them all.
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*** Or race up a field full of ''molten lava pools'' without getting roasted, for that matter? Kitai himself had to jump or scramble past several of those on his way up the mountain, yet a creature that can't ''feel'' evidently sidestepped them all.

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*** Or race up a field mountainside full of ''molten lava pools'' without getting roasted, for that matter? Kitai himself had to jump or scramble past several of those on his way up the mountain, volcano, yet a creature that can't ''feel'' evidently sidestepped them all.
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*** Or race up a field full of ''molten lava pools'' without getting roasted, for that matter? Kitai himself had to jump or scramble past several of those on his way up the mountain, yet a creature that can't ''feel'' evidently sidestepped them all.
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*I guess animal life could use the same geothermal hotspots that Kitai uses in tbe movie, but how do plants from a tropical forest survive being frozen solid every night?
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*** To be fair, he didn't discover that the Ursa had survived the crash or escaped containment until ''after'' he gave Kitai that warning and sent him on his way.
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** The wildlife has definite hints of Africa about it.
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** On a related note, if the Ursa can so eaasily sense humans by smelling their fear-based pheromones, how come Kitai stopped smelling afraid when he calmed down after having been terrified? Does calming down magically make the already-secreted molecules in his bodily secretions instantly disappear? Also, how the heck could the thing track him ''underwater'' in the caves?

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** On a related note, if the Ursa can so eaasily easily sense humans by smelling their fear-based pheromones, how come Kitai stopped smelling afraid when he calmed down after having been terrified? Does calming down magically make the already-secreted molecules in his bodily secretions instantly disappear? Also, how the heck could the thing track him ''underwater'' in the caves?
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** Radical idea: Maybe Cypher just ''doesn't know'' that Earth's organisms aren't inherently hostile to humans, due to having been indoctrinated with all the propaganda developed to discourage human soldiers from deserting the war against the Ursa and trying to re-colonize their old homeworld. Presumably it's easier to get people to stay on a planet where ''one'' species is trying to kill you if they believe ''everything'' will do so if you return to the only other life-bearing planet around.

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*** Maybe is the exact opposite; the planet has too much oxygen, after all they do live in a planet with maybe less oxigen and/or ships with limited oxygen so they get sick for so many oxygen. Silly, but the movie has many problems anyway...

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*** Maybe is the exact opposite; the planet has too much oxygen, after all they do live in a planet with maybe less oxigen oxygen and/or ships with limited oxygen so they get sick for so many oxygen. Silly, but the movie has many problems anyway...anyway...
**** If anything the more logical explanation would be that it's Nova Prime that has more oxygen and over the centuries humans adapted to that level, it's like comparing people who live at sea level to those who spend all their time in the high mountains, swap places and until they adapt the former will be easily winded while the later has seemingly boundless energy. Kitai probably would have acclimated given enough time that they didn't have.
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** The GreenAesop unfortunately allows the writers to be lazy - it's likely for the same reason why you don't see them using more advanced weaponry. In-Universe, it's probably because they figured that the drones being destroyed would make things moot. Although this does raise the question of why they don't just have drones flying up high and launching incredibly sharp sticks of wood from a distance that would gain momentum, making them just as lethal as bullets.
* Regarding the Ursa being transported in the ship that Kitai and his father were on: Why was it stored out in the open on the ship? Wouldn't it make more sense to have a wall blocking it off so that no one is tempted to get close to it?
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* If the Ursa sense fear, and ''only'' fear, why not combat them with machines? Present-day Earth has all sorts of unmanned machines of war, including drones and aircraft that mean humans don't have to be anywhere near the battlefield. A thousand years into the future, this technology should be far more advanced...and yet all we see of the war in the film is sparsely-armored infantry being tossed into the jaws of the Ursa. We even see later in the film that this society has access to advanced drone technology.

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* If the Ursa sense fear, and ''only'' fear, why not combat them with machines? Present-day Earth has all sorts of unmanned machines of war, including drones and aircraft that mean humans don't have to be anywhere near the battlefield. A thousand years into the future, this technology should be far more advanced...and yet all we see of the war in the film is sparsely-armored infantry being tossed into the jaws of the Ursa. We even see later in the film that this society has access to advanced drone technology.
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* If the Ursa sense fear, and ''only'' fear, why not combat them with machines? Present-day Earth has all sorts of unmanned machines of war, including drones and aircraft that mean humans don't have to be anywhere near the battlefield. A thousand years into the future, this technology should be far more advanced...and yet all we see of the war in the film is sparsely-armored infantry being tossed into the jaws of the Ursa. We even see later in the film that this society has access to advanced drone technology.
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** The movie was filmed in Costa Rica, if that worth something.

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** The movie was filmed in Costa Rica, a place where 25% of the land are protected areas, if that worth something.
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**The movie was filmed in Costa Rica, if that worth something.
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****Great, scare him to protect him from a monster that smell fear!


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****Maybe is the exact opposite; the planet has too much oxygen, after all they do live in a planet with maybe less oxigen and/or ships with limited oxygen so they get sick for so many oxygen. Silly, but the movie has many problems anyway...
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*** Then the surviving animals should've adapted to oxygen deficiency by becoming ''smaller and slower'', not bigger and fiercer.
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* What are a bunch of baboons doing hanging around in dense rainforest? Baboons are savannah- and highland-dwelling monkeys; they avoid deep jungle.
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** On a related note, if the Ursa can only sense humans by smelling their fear-based pheromones, how come Kitai stopped smelling afraid when he calmed down after having been terrified? Does calming down magically make the already-secreted molecules in his bodily secretions instantly disappear? Also, how the heck could the thing track him ''underwater'' in the caves?

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** On a related note, if the Ursa can only so eaasily sense humans by smelling their fear-based pheromones, how come Kitai stopped smelling afraid when he calmed down after having been terrified? Does calming down magically make the already-secreted molecules in his bodily secretions instantly disappear? Also, how the heck could the thing track him ''underwater'' in the caves?
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** On a related note, if the Ursa can only sense humans by smelling their fear-based pheromones, how come Kitai stopped smelling afraid when he calmed down after having been terrified? Does calming down magically make the already-secreted molecules in his bodily secretions instantly disappear? Also, how the heck could the thing track him ''underwater'' in the caves?

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** [[WildMassGuessing My personal theory]] is that he was riling up his son on purpose so he could be at his physical peak and do the jump; if you notice in that scene he looks at Kitai's vitals twice and notices his heartrate going up.

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** [[WildMassGuessing My personal theory]] is that he was riling up his son on purpose so he could be at his physical peak and do the jump; if you notice in that scene he looks at Kitai's vitals twice and notices his heartrate heart rate going up.


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** Worse, those drones can scour the landscape for signs of the Ursa, yet ''they'' can't just fly over to the tail section and retrieve the beacon?
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*** Maybe it ''can'' smell him but doesn't have the brains to figure out that that's what humans actually smell like? Why ''that'' would be is its own question, though, as the Ursa is obviously fairly intelligent, and even animals as simple as ''wasps'' [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenoptera_training can be trained to associate a novel scent with food]]. Perhaps the toxic air constantly smells like a sweaty human, making fear the only difference between a human and the air around him?
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** I'm more surprised at the fact that Ursas apparently ignore ''every other sense'' in favor of the fear smell. I mean, in Cypher's story of his first ghosting, he mentions removing an Ursa's pincer from his shoulder, but that it still doesn't see him; can't it sense a human touching its arm, or remember where he was before ghosting?


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** I got the idea that it was lower on oxygen, and the respirator fluids just helped him breathe more efficiently.


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** [[WildMassGuessing My personal theory]] is that he was riling up his son on purpose so he could be at his physical peak and do the jump; if you notice in that scene he looks at Kitai's vitals twice and notices his heartrate going up.
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** To be ''that'' human-specific, it'd have to be an omnipresent contaminant in the air that selectively targets biochemical processes unique to humans, like maybe a human-specific antigen in erythrocytes; the contaminant would adhere to them each time it's inhaled, and gradually shut down their oxygen-delivery. Which would pretty well ''guarantee'' it was engineered, not random.

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** To be ''that'' human-specific, it'd have to be an omnipresent contaminant in the air that selectively targets biochemical processes unique to humans, like maybe a human-specific antigen in erythrocytes; the contaminant would adhere to them each time it's inhaled, and gradually shut down their oxygen-delivery. Which Non-human animals' erythrocytes, lacking the antigen, would be unaffected. So it's theoretically possible to achieve, just ''so'' wildly-unlikely that it would pretty well ''guarantee'' it '''guarantee''' the contaminant was engineered, not random.
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** To be ''that'' human-specific, it'd have to be an omnipresent contaminant in the air that selectively targets biochemical processes unique to humans, like maybe a human-specific antigen in erythrocytes that impairs their oxygen-delivery. Which would pretty well ''guarantee'' it was engineered, not random.

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** To be ''that'' human-specific, it'd have to be an omnipresent contaminant in the air that selectively targets biochemical processes unique to humans, like maybe a human-specific antigen in erythrocytes that impairs erythrocytes; the contaminant would adhere to them each time it's inhaled, and gradually shut down their oxygen-delivery. Which would pretty well ''guarantee'' it was engineered, not random.
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** To be ''that'' human-specific, it'd have to be an omnipresent contaminant in the air that selectively targets biochemical processes unique to humans, like maybe a human-specific antigen in erythrocytes that impairs their oxygen-delivery. Which would pretty well ''guarantee'' it was engineered, not random.

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