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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse:
** ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}'':
*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murders of his family. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
---->'''Matt Murdock:''' You think uh, you think he's crazy?\\
'''Karen Page:''' The Punisher? No. I think he was inevitable.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Inevitable? How so?\\
'''Karen Page:''' Maybe... maybe we created him. All of us. The moment that we let Daredevil or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen or whatever it is-\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' There is no connection.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Actually I think it's a pretty straight line, Matt. Daredevil practiced vigilante justice in our backyard, and we applaud for it. I know that I did! And we--we never stopped to think that maybe his actions could open the door for men like this. Men... men with guns. Men who think that the law belongs to them.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Then there's a difference.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Well I don't see it. Not anymore.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Yeah. Daredevil never killed anyone.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Not that we know of. ''[sits down]'' There's something about this city that makes good people want to SHOOT their way out of bad situations!\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' You think this... Punisher could be a good person?\\
'''Karen Page:''' No! N-No I'm just saying ''[shrugs]'' he could be any one of us.
*** The fate of Samantha Reyes, the District Attorney for Manhattan. From a certain point of view, the sting operation she set up to capture the Blacksmith ''did'' eventually (and indirectly) lead to the guy's defeat. Just not remotely in the way she would have wanted and at the cost of her own life. To elaborate: the disastrous operation caused Frank Castle's family to get killed in the crossfire, pushing Frank to become the Punisher and hunt down all those responsible for their deaths. For added irony, while Reyes is murdered by the Blacksmith to silence her, Frank ends up unwittingly avenging her death by killing the Blacksmith at the end.
** ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived parental favoritism backfired by turning Carl into the bulletproof Luke Cage.
--->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
'''Willis "Diamondback" Stryker:''' I gave you wings! ''[voice breaking]'' I sent you to hell, and you come back with superpowers! ''[inhales deeply]'' Ain't that a bitch?
** ''Series/JessicaJones2015'':
*** Kilgrave was born with a degenerative brain disease. The attempts to cure him were painful, even torturous, but they succeeded. They also gave him his godawful powers.
*** Trish mocks and belittles Kilgrave on her radio show in an attempt to get under his skin and draw him out. This succeeds... by provoking Kilgrave into sending Will Simpson to kill her, an attack which she barely survives.
** ''Series/IronFist2017'': Danny Rand's devotion to becoming the Iron Fist made him a prime candidate for the position. One of the final trials to do so, the relinquishing of his previous identity came easily to him as a result. As an unforeseen consequence, it also reminded him of his old life, causing him to return to New York to find himself.
** ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}'':
*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murders of his family. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
---->'''Matt Murdock:''' You think uh, you think he's crazy?\\
'''Karen Page:''' The Punisher? No. I think he was inevitable.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Inevitable? How so?\\
'''Karen Page:''' Maybe... maybe we created him. All of us. The moment that we let Daredevil or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen or whatever it is-\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' There is no connection.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Actually I think it's a pretty straight line, Matt. Daredevil practiced vigilante justice in our backyard, and we applaud for it. I know that I did! And we--we never stopped to think that maybe his actions could open the door for men like this. Men... men with guns. Men who think that the law belongs to them.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Then there's a difference.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Well I don't see it. Not anymore.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Yeah. Daredevil never killed anyone.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Not that we know of. ''[sits down]'' There's something about this city that makes good people want to SHOOT their way out of bad situations!\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' You think this... Punisher could be a good person?\\
'''Karen Page:''' No! N-No I'm just saying ''[shrugs]'' he could be any one of us.
*** The fate of Samantha Reyes, the District Attorney for Manhattan. From a certain point of view, the sting operation she set up to capture the Blacksmith ''did'' eventually (and indirectly) lead to the guy's defeat. Just not remotely in the way she would have wanted and at the cost of her own life. To elaborate: the disastrous operation caused Frank Castle's family to get killed in the crossfire, pushing Frank to become the Punisher and hunt down all those responsible for their deaths. For added irony, while Reyes is murdered by the Blacksmith to silence her, Frank ends up unwittingly avenging her death by killing the Blacksmith at the end.
** ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived parental favoritism backfired by turning Carl into the bulletproof Luke Cage.
--->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
'''Willis "Diamondback" Stryker:''' I gave you wings! ''[voice breaking]'' I sent you to hell, and you come back with superpowers! ''[inhales deeply]'' Ain't that a bitch?
** ''Series/JessicaJones2015'':
*** Kilgrave was born with a degenerative brain disease. The attempts to cure him were painful, even torturous, but they succeeded. They also gave him his godawful powers.
*** Trish mocks and belittles Kilgrave on her radio show in an attempt to get under his skin and draw him out. This succeeds... by provoking Kilgrave into sending Will Simpson to kill her, an attack which she barely survives.
** ''Series/IronFist2017'': Danny Rand's devotion to becoming the Iron Fist made him a prime candidate for the position. One of the final trials to do so, the relinquishing of his previous identity came easily to him as a result. As an unforeseen consequence, it also reminded him of his old life, causing him to return to New York to find himself.
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* Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse:
** ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}'':
*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murders of his family. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
---->'''Matt Murdock:''' You think uh, you think he's crazy?\\
'''Karen Page:''' The Punisher? No. I think he was inevitable.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Inevitable? How so?\\
'''Karen Page:''' Maybe... maybe we created him. All of us. The moment that we let Daredevil or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen or whatever it is-\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' There is no connection.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Actually I think it's a pretty straight line, Matt. Daredevil practiced vigilante justice in our backyard, and we applaud for it. I know that I did! And we--we never stopped to think that maybe his actions could open the door for men like this. Men... men with guns. Men who think that the law belongs to them.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Then there's a difference.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Well I don't see it. Not anymore.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Yeah. Daredevil never killed anyone.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Not that we know of. ''[sits down]'' There's something about this city that makes good people want to SHOOT their way out of bad situations!\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' You think this... Punisher could be a good person?\\
'''Karen Page:''' No! N-No I'm just saying ''[shrugs]'' he could be any one of us.
*** The fate of Samantha Reyes, the District Attorney for Manhattan. From a certain point of view, the sting operation she set up to capture the Blacksmith ''did'' eventually (and indirectly) lead to the guy's defeat. Just not remotely in the way she would have wanted and at the cost of her own life. To elaborate: the disastrous operation caused Frank Castle's family to get killed in the crossfire, pushing Frank to become the Punisher and hunt down all those responsible for their deaths. For added irony, while Reyes is murdered by the Blacksmith to silence her, Frank ends up unwittingly avenging her death by killing the Blacksmith at the end.
** ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived {{parental favoritism}} result in Carl becoming the bulletproof Luke Cage.
--->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
'''Willis "Diamondback" Stryker:''' I gave you wings! ''[voice breaking]'' I sent you to hell, and you come back with superpowers! ''[inhales deeply]'' Ain't that a bitch?
** ''Series/JessicaJones2015'':
*** Kilgrave was born with a degenerative brain disease. The attempts to cure him were painful, even torturous, but they succeeded. They also gave him his godawful powers.
*** Trish mocks and belittles Kilgrave on her radio show in an attempt to get under his skin and draw him out. This succeeds... by provoking Kilgrave into sending Will Simpson to kill her, an attack which she barely survives.
** ''Series/IronFist2017'': Danny Rand's devotion to becoming the Iron Fist made him a prime candidate for the position. One of the final trials to do so, the relinquishing of his previous identity came easily to him as a result. As an unforeseen consequence, it also reminded him of his old life, causing him to return to New York to find himself.
** ''Series/{{Daredevil|2015}}'':
*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murders of his family. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
---->'''Matt Murdock:''' You think uh, you think he's crazy?\\
'''Karen Page:''' The Punisher? No. I think he was inevitable.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Inevitable? How so?\\
'''Karen Page:''' Maybe... maybe we created him. All of us. The moment that we let Daredevil or the Devil of Hell's Kitchen or whatever it is-\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' There is no connection.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Actually I think it's a pretty straight line, Matt. Daredevil practiced vigilante justice in our backyard, and we applaud for it. I know that I did! And we--we never stopped to think that maybe his actions could open the door for men like this. Men... men with guns. Men who think that the law belongs to them.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Then there's a difference.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Well I don't see it. Not anymore.\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' Yeah. Daredevil never killed anyone.\\
'''Karen Page:''' Not that we know of. ''[sits down]'' There's something about this city that makes good people want to SHOOT their way out of bad situations!\\
'''Matt Murdock:''' You think this... Punisher could be a good person?\\
'''Karen Page:''' No! N-No I'm just saying ''[shrugs]'' he could be any one of us.
*** The fate of Samantha Reyes, the District Attorney for Manhattan. From a certain point of view, the sting operation she set up to capture the Blacksmith ''did'' eventually (and indirectly) lead to the guy's defeat. Just not remotely in the way she would have wanted and at the cost of her own life. To elaborate: the disastrous operation caused Frank Castle's family to get killed in the crossfire, pushing Frank to become the Punisher and hunt down all those responsible for their deaths. For added irony, while Reyes is murdered by the Blacksmith to silence her, Frank ends up unwittingly avenging her death by killing the Blacksmith at the end.
** ''Series/LukeCage2016'': Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived {{parental favoritism}} result in Carl becoming the bulletproof Luke Cage.
--->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
'''Willis "Diamondback" Stryker:''' I gave you wings! ''[voice breaking]'' I sent you to hell, and you come back with superpowers! ''[inhales deeply]'' Ain't that a bitch?
** ''Series/JessicaJones2015'':
*** Kilgrave was born with a degenerative brain disease. The attempts to cure him were painful, even torturous, but they succeeded. They also gave him his godawful powers.
*** Trish mocks and belittles Kilgrave on her radio show in an attempt to get under his skin and draw him out. This succeeds... by provoking Kilgrave into sending Will Simpson to kill her, an attack which she barely survives.
** ''Series/IronFist2017'': Danny Rand's devotion to becoming the Iron Fist made him a prime candidate for the position. One of the final trials to do so, the relinquishing of his previous identity came easily to him as a result. As an unforeseen consequence, it also reminded him of his old life, causing him to return to New York to find himself.
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*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in Season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired former marine lieutenant [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murder of his wife and daughter. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
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*** Matt Murdock wanted to inspire others to stand against crime with his vigilante activities. Early in Season season 2, after escaping being shot at while protecting a witness, Karen speculates to Matt that his second identity was what inspired former marine lieutenant [[ComicBook/ThePunisher Frank Castle]] to do just that, though in Frank's case this involves killing every last gang member he can find in retaliation for the murder murders of his wife and daughter.family. Matt is unsettled by Karen's implications.
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** ''Series/LukeCage2016'':
*** Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived parental favoritism backfired by turning Carl into the bulletproof Luke Cage.
---->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
*** Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived parental favoritism backfired by turning Carl into the bulletproof Luke Cage.
---->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
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** ''Series/LukeCage2016'':
***''Series/LukeCage2016'': Willis "Diamondback" Stryker's attempts to ruin his half-brother Carl Lucas over perceived parental favoritism backfired by turning Carl into the bulletproof Luke Cage.
---->'''Luke --->'''Luke Cage:''' You ruined my life.\\
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