History Fridge / VenomLetThereBeCarnage

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* The guy in TheStinger barely reacts to Eddie appearing in his hotel room, probably because [[spoiler: this happens after [[Film/AvengersEndgame the Blip]], so he's probably [[SeenItAll seen people appear out of thin air before.]]]]
* Cletus’ speech to Eddie about consequences made this troper realize something: the entire movie has the subtle theme of consequences, and more specifically mistakes coming back to haunt you. The best examples of this? [[spoiler:Eddie’s career is in the dumps because of his actions in the last movie, his reluctance to let Venom eat people and his general attitude to Venom’s presence leads to them splitting, Mulligan’s shooting of Frances leads to her grudge toward him, Carnage is born from Venom lashing out at Cletus and inadvertently getting Eddie bitten, and the movie ends with Eddie and Venom on the run because they escaped custody and fought Carnage and Cletus.]] There’s many more examples, but those are just the ones that immediately stand out.

* [[spoiler:Why are Cletus and Carnage so at odds with each other toward the end of the movie, when their comic counterparts are so in-tune with each other that they are effectively the same being? Frances, Cletus' “light”. She was the link to Cletus’ last bits of humanity (however tenuous it was), and his primary motivation throughout the film. Because of her presence in Cletus’ life, he never became his completely homicidal and insane comic self, and would have been satisfied living however they wanted as a Bonnie and Clyde couple. With her presence, Cletus and Carnage never reached the full synchronization that they should have, and thus never reached the peak of their potential power. Ironically, if Mulligan had actually killed Frances in the prologue, Cletus and Carnage would have been the perfect match they were meant to be, and Venom and Eddie would have died along with the rest of San Francisco.]]

---> '''Venom:''' Slow down, pal!

* The revelation that the symbiote hive mind crosses through the multiverse and causes Venom to react with instant hostility to seeing Spider-Man, despite not knowing who he is, finally explains the frequent AdaptationalVillainy used in stories featuring the symbiote. On a basic and instinctive level it remembers how Earth-616 Spider-Man treated it, back when it's sentience was rather basic and it was never portrayed as corrupting Peter, and every time they meet in an alternate universe it tries to alter Peter so that it won't reject him.
** It also explains why the symbiote gets along better with Eddie than with other hosts, and gives more meaning to why Venom said he changed his mind because of Eddie in the previous movie. On some level Venom remembers that out of all it's hosts Eddie is the one it can rely on the most, and remembers how Eddie is always there after it is rejected by Spider-Man like in ''Film/SpiderMan3'' and ''WesternAnimation/TheSpectacularSpiderMan''.
* [[spoiler: Why are Cletus and Carnage so at odds with each other toward the end of the movie, when their comic counterparts are so in-tune with each other that they are effectively the same being? Frances, Cletus' “light”. She was the link to Cletus’ last bits of humanity (however tenuous it was), and his primary motivation throughout the film. Because of her presence in Cletus’ life, he never became his completely homicidal and insane comic self, and would have been satisfied living however they wanted as a Bonnie and Clyde couple. With her presence, Cletus and Carnage never reached the full synchronization that they should have, and thus never reached the peak of their potential power. Ironically, if Mulligan had actually killed Frances in the prologue, Cletus and Carnage would have been the perfect match they were meant to be, and Venom and Eddie would have died along with the rest of San Francisco.]]

* The revelation that the symbiote hive mind crosses through the multiverse and causes Venom to react with instant hostility to seeing Spider-Man, despite not knowing who he is, finally explains the frequent AdaptationalVillainy used in stories featuring the symbiote.

* Cletus’ speech to Eddie about consequences made this troper realize something: the entire movie has the subtle theme of consequences, and more specifically mistakes coming back to haunt you. The best examples of this?[[spoiler:Eddie’s career is in the dumps because of his actions in the last movie, his reluctance to let Venom eat people and his general attitude to Venom’s presence leads to them splitting, Mulligan’s shooting of Frances leads to her grudge toward him, Carnage is born from Venom lashing out at Cletus and inadvertently getting Eddie bitten, and the movie ends with Eddie and Venom on the run because they escaped custody and fought Carnage and Cletus.]] There’s many more examples, but those are just the ones that immediately stand out.

** There’s a difference between “basic” cause and effect and the theming of consequences. If it was just a one off, albeit massive example of cause and effect (like Venom’s actions leading to Carnage), it would be easy to dismiss it as just cause and effect. But when SO MUCH of the movie uses examples of consequences to decisions, then it’s a theme, albeit a subtle one.

* [[spoiler: Why are Cletus and Carnage so at odds with each other toward the end of the movie, when their comic counterparts are so in-tune with each other that they are effectively the same being? Frances, Cletus “light”. She was the link to Cletus’ last bits of humanity (however tenuous it was), and his primary motivation throughout the film. Because of her presence in Cletus’ life, he never became his completely homicidal and insane comic self, and would have been satisfied living however they wanted as a Bonney and Clyde couple. With her presence, Cletus and Carnage never reached the full synchronization that they should have, and thus never reached the peak of their potential power. Ironically, if Mulligan had actually killed Frances in the prologue, Cletus and Carnage would have been the perfect match they were meant to be, and Venom and Eddie would have died along with the rest of San Francisco.]]

* The revelation that the symbiote hive mind crosses through the multiverse and causes Venom to react with instant hostility to seeing Spiderman, to spite not knowing who he is, finally explains the frequent AdaptationalVillainy used in stories featuring the symbiote.

* The revelation that the symbiote hive mind crosses through the multiverse and causes Venom to react with instant hostility to seeing Spiderman, to spite not knowing who he is, finally explains the frequent AdaptationalVillainy used in stories featuring the symbiote.

** Can basic cause and effect really be the theme of a movie given how no story can exist without it?

* Cletus’ speech to Eddie about consequences made this troper realize something: the entire movie has the subtle theme of consequences, and more specifically mistakes coming back to haunt you. The best examples of this?[[spoiler:Eddie’s career is in the dumps because of his actions in the last movie, his reluctance to let Venom eat people and his general attitude to Venom’s presence leads to them splitting, Mulligan’s shooting of Frances leads to her grudge toward him, Carnage is born from Venom lashing out at Cletus and inadvertently getting Eddie bitten, and the movie ends with Eddie and Venom on the run because they escaped custody and fought Carnage and Cletus.]] There’s many more examples, but those are just the ones that immediately stand out.

* Cletus’ speech to Eddie about consequences made this troper realize something: the entire movie has the subtle theme of consequences, and more specifically mistakes coming back to haunt you. [[spoiler:Eddie’s career is in the dumps because of his actions in the last movie, his reluctance to let Venom eat people and his general attitude to Venom’s presence leads to them splitting, Mulligan’s shooting of Frances leads to her grudge toward him, Carnage is born from Venom lashing out at Cletus and inadvertently getting Eddie bitten, and the movie ends with Eddie and Venom on the run because they escaped custody and fought Carnage and Cletus.]] There’s many more examples, but those are just the ones that immediately stand out.

* The guy in TheStinger barely reacts to Eddie appearing in his hotel room, probably because [[spoiler: this happens after [[Film/AvengersEndgame the Blip]], so he's probably [[SeenItAll seen people appear out of thin air before.]]]]