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10th May '13 9:57:28 PM ZeldaQueen

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* If you think about it, the Immortal Children concept is even worse than the idea of having a bloodthirsty CreepyChild running around. Keep in mind that the way vampire feeding is described, even if full of blood, it's nearly impossible for a vampire to stop drinking before the human is killed. Now, think about how a baby has ''much'' less blood in the body than an adult. Now, think about how many babies must have been killed before a vampire could muster the willpower to only change one and not kill it. The alternative - that the vampires that made Immortal Children deliberately drained countless adults of blood to be full enough to stop in time - is hardly much better. Also, keep in mind that the vampires of the world of ''Twilight'' often will kill just because they can. Not only are they kidnapping countless children and babies from their parents, but they likely killed said child or baby's family, just to cover up the theft. ''Now'' keep in mind how the actual transformation occurs. It's a process that takes several days, during which time the person goes through unendurable pain. ''An infant is put through this''. From then on, all they'd have to look forward to is an eternity of suffering third-degree burns on their throats. And the entire reason Immortal Children were banned was because they lacked the ability to reason, so there's no way they could understand what was happening to them. So they'd be a group of children who are in constant pain and have no idea why and just want it to ''end''. '''Now''' keep in mind exactly ''why'' the Immortal Children were made - apparently a large number of vampires just were so danged broody, they had to do it. They kidnapped children, probably killed a good many, put the children through unspeakable pain, and all so they could have something cute to look after. The whole thing is ''horrifying''!

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7th May '13 8:20:30 PM CrazyEvilGood

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2nd Apr '13 8:31:02 AM LordGro

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* Before reading the first seven chapters of ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', everything I knew about Gothic literature, I learned from the Bronte sisters and [[Literature/NorthangerAbbey Henry Tilney]] -- the 19th century, after authors became GenreSavvy enough to play cleverly with Gothic tropes -- and ''Twilight'' didn't seem similar to these at all. I've since read such Gothic literature from the ''18th'' century as ''Literature/TheCastleOfOtranto'' (which I loved), ''Romance of the Forest'', and ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'' (both of which I hated). Stephanie Meyer, ''Twilight'' is not a modern ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' -- '''it's a modern ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho''!''' The problem is, heroines like Matilda, [[ShoutOut Isabella]], Adeline, Emily St. Aubert, and Bella Swann are ferociously outdated. A FlatCharacter with low self-esteem surrounded by people who want to protect her worked then; trying to play it straight now doesn't work, but it is a successful CallBack to the original Gothic heroine. ''Udolpho'' and ''Twilight'' both also play AllGirlsWantBadBoys painfully straight, which was also an outdated trope by the Bronte's time, possibly thanks to JaneAusten [[note]](Charlotte Bronte would have seen how much she and Austen actually had in common if she'd only read ''MansfieldPark'')[[/note]]. - Tropers/{{Lale}}

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* Before reading the first seven chapters of ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'', everything I knew about Gothic literature, I learned from the Bronte sisters and [[Literature/NorthangerAbbey Henry Tilney]] -- the 19th century, after authors became GenreSavvy enough to play cleverly with Gothic tropes -- and ''Twilight'' didn't seem similar to these at all. I've since read such Gothic literature from the ''18th'' century as ''Literature/TheCastleOfOtranto'' (which I loved), ''Romance of the Forest'', and ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho'' (both of which I hated). Stephanie Meyer, ''Twilight'' is not a modern ''Literature/WutheringHeights'' -- '''it's a modern ''Literature/TheMysteriesOfUdolpho''!''' The problem is, heroines like Matilda, [[ShoutOut Isabella]], Adeline, Emily St. Aubert, and Bella Swann are ferociously outdated. A FlatCharacter with low self-esteem surrounded by people who want to protect her worked then; trying to play it straight now doesn't work, but it is a successful CallBack to the original Gothic heroine. ''Udolpho'' and ''Twilight'' both also play AllGirlsWantBadBoys painfully straight, which was also an outdated trope by the Bronte's time, possibly thanks to Creator/JaneAusten [[note]](Charlotte Bronte would have seen how much she and Austen actually had in common if she'd only read ''Literature/MansfieldPark'')[[/note]]. - Tropers/{{Lale}}

11th Mar '13 7:36:31 AM CoolKitten

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2nd Mar '13 11:52:59 PM TheDogSage

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