History Fridge / Torchwood

16th Apr '16 12:41:09 PM Eagal
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* At the end of the Miracle Day season, [[spoiler: Rex is made immortal like Jack. Does that mean there will be a black counterpart to the Face of Boe?]]

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* At the end of the Miracle Day season, [[spoiler: Rex is made immortal like Jack. Does that mean there will be a black counterpart to the Face of Boe?]]Boe?]]
* Abortion or even the morning after pill, is no longer an option and if sperm meets egg you have a very high chance of having a baby with horrifying birth defects. And Jack's conversation with his one night stand reveals that most people think their new immortality means they don't get sick or injured and so they are taking massive risks.
22nd Jan '16 12:40:39 AM Nylsa
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* What happened to the Torchwood team in the [[Series/DoctorWho Year That Never Was]]? Chances are they were all murdered for the Master's amusement or just for trying to raise rebellion against him. No wonder Jack becomes much mellower and more protective of them in Season 2. Also worth noting is that he takes his relationship with Ianto much more seriously, even asking him out soon after he came back!
** Confirmed. The Master sent them on a wild goosechase to the Himalayas where they probably either died in a blizzard or were killed there. Jack goes nuts upon hearing it.

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* What happened to the Torchwood team in the [[Series/DoctorWho Year That Never Was]]? Chances are they were all murdered for the Master's amusement or just for trying to raise rebellion against him. No wonder Jack becomes much mellower and more protective of them in Season 2. Also worth noting is that he takes his relationship with Ianto much more seriously, even leading to Jack eventually asking him Ianto out soon after he came back!
** Confirmed. The Master sent them on a wild goosechase to the Himalayas where they probably either died in a blizzard or were killed there. [[PapaWolf Jack goes nuts upon hearing it.about it]].



* [[RedShirt Red is Ianto,Owen and Tosh's color.]]-Lillium

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* [[RedShirt Red Red]] is Ianto,Owen [[spoiler:Ianto, Owen, and Tosh's Tosh's]] color.]]-Lillium-Lillium



** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?

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** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their there ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?
22nd Jan '16 12:32:43 AM Nylsa
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* Thinking logically, Ianto's death in ''Children of Earth'' was entirely predictable. Charging off to threaten an alien in a sealed chamber that is threatening to unleash a bioweapon that is lethal to humans, with only handguns and no kind of gas masks or other protection would seem to carry a 100% probability of unpleasant death. That this was not obvious kind of makes Jack look like a GeneralFailure from a tactical standpoint. Then again, not [[WouldHurtAChild not exactly the best grandfather either]].
** Consider also that Torchwood's ''entire base'' had just been destroyed. Without a massive computer database and a hub full of exotic alien technology to fall back on, they were out of their element -- especially Jack, who is still very much a "shoot first, ask questions later" kind of guy.
** Actually Jack's plan would have worked...if he were on ''Series/DoctorWho''. He's seen the Doctor bullshit his way through enough invasions to believe it'd work and because he idolizes and tends to pattern himself off the Doctor, he'd want to take a page out of his book. Hell, even the philosophy he tried quoting at them was a reminder of the Doctor's influence on situation via his influence on Jack. Had this been a Who episode, that would have been the "humans are brilliant and will not be bullied" heroic moment that wrapped up the plot. Unfortunately, this is Torchwood, home of DarkerAndEdgier and Jack's WrongGenreSavvy cost him dearly.

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* Thinking logically, Ianto's death [[spoiler:Ianto's death]] in ''Children of Earth'' was entirely predictable. Charging off to threaten an alien in a sealed chamber that is threatening to unleash a bioweapon that is lethal to humans, with only handguns and no kind of gas masks or other protection protection, would seem to carry a 100% probability of unpleasant death. That this was not obvious kind of makes Jack [[spoiler:Jack]] look like a GeneralFailure from a tactical standpoint. Then again, not [[spoiler: [[WouldHurtAChild he's not exactly the best grandfather either]].
either]]]].
** Consider also that Torchwood's ''entire [[spoiler:''entire base'' had just been destroyed. Without a massive computer database and a hub full of exotic alien technology to fall back on, they were out of their element element]] -- especially Jack, who is still very much a "shoot first, ask questions later" kind of guy.
** Actually Actually, Jack's plan would have worked...if he were on ''Series/DoctorWho''. He's He has seen the Doctor bullshit his way through enough invasions to believe it'd work work, and because he Jack idolizes and tends to pattern himself off of the Doctor, he'd want to take a page out of his book. Hell, even the philosophy he tried quoting at them the 456 was a reminder of the Doctor's influence on the situation via his influence on Jack. Had this been a Who episode, that would have been the "humans "[[HumansAreSpecial humans are brilliant and will not be bullied" bullied]]" heroic moment that wrapped up the plot. Unfortunately, this is Torchwood, home of DarkerAndEdgier DarkerAndEdgier, and Jack's WrongGenreSavvy cost him dearly.
22nd Jan '16 12:12:15 AM Nylsa
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* When watching ''Torchwood'' I always wondered why the hell in the first series, Torchwood was all hush-hush. Yet, in the second series, almost everyone in Cardiff knows about (and seems to despise) Torchwood. It wasn't until rewatching Utopia that I realized why. While Jack was gone, Gwen was in charge. Gwen is also the newbie who has no idea how to do stuff. It is perfectly plausible that somehow, she managed to f*ck something up so badly, that the general populace knows about the existence of Torchwood. Tropers/Margo196
** Torchwood was barely hush-hush in season one, though. It's a little hard when they have a big van that says "Torchwood" and whenever Jack enters a crime scene Jack loudly announces Torchwood's presence. It would be inaccurate and baffling to blame Gwen and Gwen alone when the whole team lacked subtlety. - EMY3K

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* When While watching ''Torchwood'' ''Torchwood'', I always wondered why the hell in the first series, Torchwood was all hush-hush. Yet, hush-hush, yet in the second series, almost everyone in Cardiff knows about (and seems to despise) Torchwood. It wasn't until rewatching Utopia that I realized why. While why: while Jack was gone, Gwen was in charge. Gwen is also the newbie who has no idea how to do stuff. It is perfectly plausible that somehow, she somehow managed to f*ck something up so badly, badly that the general populace knows about the existence of Torchwood. Tropers/Margo196
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** Torchwood was barely hush-hush in season one, though. It's a little hard to keep secrets when they have a big van that says displays "Torchwood" in huge letters and whenever Jack enters entered a crime scene Jack scene, he loudly announces Torchwood's presence. It would be inaccurate and baffling to blame Gwen and Gwen alone when the whole team lacked subtlety. - EMY3K



* Lots of people hate "Countrycide". Me, I didn't, but only because I realized it was making a not so subtle point: ''At times, human bastardry is far more freaky and twisted than any alien presence could be.'' True, it is disappointing there was no alien presence at all, but when Jack just wanted to kill them all (correctly, knowing they were sick sociopaths far more twisted than an alien threat) and Gwen (naively, in a case of WrongGenreSavvy, thinking they just had a BlueAndOrangeMorality she wanted to understand) tried to figure them out, I realized RTD was basically foreshadowing the true horror we humans can be capable of in ''[[Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth Children of Earth]]'' and ''[[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay Miracle Day]]''. - Rpgingmaster

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* Lots of people hate "Countrycide". Me, I didn't, but only because I realized it was making a not so subtle point: ''At times, [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters human bastardry bastardry]] is far more freaky and twisted than any alien presence could be.'' True, it is disappointing there was no alien presence at all, but when Jack just wanted to kill them all (correctly, knowing they were sick sociopaths far more twisted than an alien threat) and Gwen (naively, in a case of WrongGenreSavvy, thinking they just had a BlueAndOrangeMorality she wanted to understand) tried to figure them out, I realized RTD was basically foreshadowing the true horror we humans can be capable of in ''[[Series/TorchwoodChildrenOfEarth Children of Earth]]'' and ''[[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay Miracle Day]]''. - Rpgingmaster



* From the flashback in "Fragments," we find out that Ianto only started wearing suits after trying to get a job in Torchwood several times and getting summarily rejected by Jack. Ianto probably interpreted Jack's rejection to be in part due to his youth and wears suits around the workplace to be treated like an adult, much like how a lot of interns or entry-level employees dress more formally to be taken more seriously!
* Gwen speech from "Children Of Earth" theorizing the Doctor hasn't shown up to help because he's ashamed of the [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans' actions]]. Letting millions of children be used as drugs seems rather out of character for the Doctor, no matter how mad he may have been...until you realize that Gwen doesn't really ''know'' the Doctor, aside from "the man who occasionally shows up to save the world", so it makes sense that she might think that (even though Doctor Who fans who watched him years would disagree).

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* From the flashback in "Fragments," we find out that Ianto only started wearing suits after trying to get a job in Torchwood several times and getting summarily rejected by Jack. Ianto probably interpreted Jack's rejection to be in part due to his youth and wears suits around the workplace to be treated like an adult, much like how a lot of interns or entry-level employees dress more formally to be taken more seriously!
* Gwen Gwen's speech from "Children Of Earth" theorizing the Doctor hasn't shown up to help because he's ashamed of the [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters humans' actions]]. Letting millions of children be used as drugs seems rather out of character for the Doctor, no matter how mad he may have been...until you realize that Gwen doesn't really ''know'' the Doctor, aside from "the man who occasionally shows up to save the world", so it makes sense that she might think that (even though Doctor Who fans who watched him years would disagree).
8th Jan '16 10:24:59 PM JadeEyes1
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** There's also the less-mentioned fact that the Immortality Gate was acquired from one of the fallen Torchwood bases. That's right: top-secret alien technology that was locked away for decades in the Torchwood vaults can now be easily obtained by anyone with the right connections and enough money. Let the implications of that sink in.

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** There's also the less-mentioned fact that the Immortality Gate was acquired from one of the fallen Torchwood bases. That's right: top-secret the top-secret, deadly (and possibly damaged) alien technology that was locked away for decades in the Torchwood vaults can now be easily obtained by anyone with the right connections and a big enough money. bank account. Let the implications of that ''that'' sink in.
8th Jan '16 10:18:16 PM JadeEyes1
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* In ''Series/DoctorWho The End of Time'', the Master uses an alien device to change every person on Earth into his genetic clone, including those who are dead and buried. There's already Fridge Horror there in that we aren't told whether the dead went back to ''being'' dead once the effect was [[ResetButton undone]]; it gets worse when you remember that [[spoiler: Tosh and Ianto were buried on Earth.]]

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* In ''Series/DoctorWho The the ''Series/DoctorWho'' episode ''The End of Time'', the Master uses an alien device the Immortality Gate to change every person on Earth into his genetic clone, including those who are dead and buried. There's already Fridge Horror there in that we aren't told whether the dead went back to ''being'' dead once the effect was [[ResetButton undone]]; it gets worse when you remember that [[spoiler: Tosh and Ianto were buried on Earth.]]



** There's also the less-mentioned fact that the Immortality Gate was acquired from one of the fallen Torchwood bases. That's right: the top-secret alien technology that was locked away for decades in the Torchwood vaults can now be easily obtained by anyone with the right connections and enough money. Let the implications of that sink in.

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** There's also the less-mentioned fact that the Immortality Gate was acquired from one of the fallen Torchwood bases. That's right: the top-secret alien technology that was locked away for decades in the Torchwood vaults can now be easily obtained by anyone with the right connections and enough money. Let the implications of that sink in.
14th Nov '15 3:09:45 PM Mith4
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** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?

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** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?out?
* At the end of the Miracle Day season, [[spoiler: Rex is made immortal like Jack. Does that mean there will be a black counterpart to the Face of Boe?]]
7th Apr '15 11:08:17 AM nombretomado
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* Rearrange the letters in "Torchwood" and you get...[[spoiler: [[DoctorWho Doctor Who]]]].

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* Rearrange the letters in "Torchwood" and you get...[[spoiler: [[DoctorWho Doctor Who]]]].Series/DoctorWho]].



** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?

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** On the other hand, that episode seems to imply their ''might'' be something after all, since he's shown ascending upwards and rapidly zooming away from Earth. If there was truly nothing, wouldn't he have simply blinked out?
9th Mar '15 2:45:18 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Fortunately, both Gwen and her baby are shown to be alive and well in ''MiracleDay''. That doesn't do much to lessen the horror of what might have happened at the time, however....

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*** Fortunately, both Gwen and her baby are shown to be alive and well in ''MiracleDay''.''Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay''. That doesn't do much to lessen the horror of what might have happened at the time, however....
20th Nov '14 10:40:31 PM JadeEyes1
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** He wasn't the only living specimen in cold storage, either: there were several people who were put in suspended animation because they were mutating into creatures that the Institute ''[[SealedEvilInACan didn't otherwise know how to contain]]''.

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** He wasn't the only living specimen in cold storage, either: according to the BBC website, there were several people who were put in suspended animation because they were mutating into creatures that the Institute ''[[SealedEvilInACan didn't otherwise know how to contain]]''. contain]]''.
** For that matter, Myfawny and the Weevils such as Janet. Myfawny ''might'' be okay: she can fly, and comes and goes from the Hub as she pleases; she might not have been in the Hub when the bomb went off. But the Weevils probably were turned to chunky salsa...
** Worse, the morgue's stores of the dead may have been blown up. The dead got deader that day... hopefully Toshiko's body was not one of them and she was buried instead. And Suzie definitely wasn't, due to the events of the novel ''[[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Long_Time_Dead Long Time Dead]]''.
*** The canonicity of the novels is debatable, though...



* Jack chloroformed Gray and placed him in cryofreeze near the end of "Exit Wounds". When the Hub was blown up in "Children of Earth: Day One", we don't know if he was caught in it. We never saw the resting place of Gray's body when Jack deposited him in the morgue.
** For that manner, Myfawny and the Weevils such as Janet. Myfawny might be OK- she can fly, and comes and goes from the Hub as she pleases. She wasn't present in the Hub when the bomb went off, but the Weevils probably were turned to chunky salsa.
** Worse, the morgue's stores of the dead may have been blown up. The dead got deader that day... hopefully Toshiko's body was not one of them and she was buried instead. And Suzie definitely wasn't, due to the events of the novel ''[[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Long_Time_Dead Long Time Dead]]''.
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