History Fridge / Tomorrowland

* The Blast From the Past shop contains absolutely no memorabilia from either ''Franchise/StarTrek'' or ''Series/DoctorWho''. of course, this was a dead giveaway that [[spoiler: the shop was a front]].
** Except you can see a model of the Enterprise from the Star Trek motion picture series hanging in clear view from the ceiling in one shot.

** Except you can see a model of the Enterprise from the Star Trek motion picture series hanging from the ceiling in one shot.

* Remember when Nix says that we are hopeless because we head towards self destruction. He is not lying, guess what post apoc movie came around the same time and made more money than Tomorrowland, ''Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.''

* Not "fridge", but you might start noticing all the places the motto 'Plus Ultra' appears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plus_ultra_(motto) such as the the real life flag of the Kingdom of Spain.

* The Blast From the Past shop contains absolutely no memorabilia from either ''LiveActionTV/StarTrek'' or ''LiveActionTV/DoctorWho''. of course, this was a dead giveaway that [[spoiler: the shop was a front]].

* "I'm the future, Frank Walker" says a pre-teen girl android. OK, she means she is an enabler of the future sought by Plus Ultra. But taken differently... Do I need to explain why some people will want to buy robotic little girls once they are (soon) invented?

* Not "fridge", but you may notice after watching the movie that the real life flag of the Kingdom of Spain has 'Plus Ultra' on it in latin script: PLVS VLTRA.

* Not at your fridge, but when you look closely at the flag of the Kingdom of Spain in real life, you notice it says Plus Ultra on it, in latin script: PLVS VLTRA.

* Remember when Nix says that we are hopeless because we head towards self destruction. He is not lying, guess what post apoc movie came around the same time and made more money than Tomorrowland, MadMax Fury Road.

* "I'm the future, Frank Walker" says a robotic pre-teen girl. OK, she means she is an enabler of the future sought by Plus Ultra. But taken differently... Do I need to explain why some people will want to buy robotic little girls once they are (soon) invented?

* Remember when Casey first got her pin, got transported into a wheat field, walked around for a second...and then hit her head against the police station wall? And then, remember later, when she got her pin back...and fell down the stairs of her house? It seems like the vision of the futuristic city only affects your vision and hearing, while keeping your physical body in the real world, where it can fall, hit other people, run into things, and generally be harmed...and then, at the end of the movie, a bunch of people are given those same pins. People in the middle of the city, on a hiking trail, in a construction site...

* Remember when Nix says that we are hopeless because we head towards self destruction. He is not lying, guess what post apoc movie came around the same time and made more money the Tomorrowland, MadMax Fury Road.

* Remember when Nix says that we are hopeless because we head towards self destruction. He is not lying, guess what post apoc movie came around the same time and made more money the Tomorrowland, MadMax Fury Road.

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* The subtext of the movie contradict it's theme. Yes, the explicit message is optimism, yes it's got the overt happy ending, but... [[spoiler: Civilization is on the brink of implosion, with ''less than two months'' before The Noise, which ends in Apocalypse and includes at least one nuke. In fact, nuclear detonations are shown throughout the movie: at school, on graffiti, in the memorabilia shop... The good guys end up chucking a one kiloton bomb to Earth.]] Feeding the wrong wolf, much?
** Its heavily implied that that BadFuture can be changed/prevented by enough people if they worked toward their genuine ideal future, as evidenced by [[spoiler: the flickering of the displays, showing clear skies instead of the riots and such,]] and even so, [[spoiler: Casey theorized that the communications tower broadcasted the negative images of the end into people's minds, thereby influencing the future. And that structure was already destroyed.]] Also, [[spoiler: they threw the bomb onto an uncharted island, the only things there would be animals, and even so, the ecosystem wouldn't be severely damaged, as the bomb exploded on the beach, far enough from the forest and the sea to actually kill much of anything. Furthermore, the explosion might as well have been dispersed through the portal, lessening the damage even more.]]
** [[spoiler: The island is uninhabited, not uncharted. There are no uncharted or even unclaimed islands on Earth. A one kiloton bomb would kill a lot of things and would not go unnoticed. It is never established / mentioned / implied that the portal has that effect. The communicator isn't shut down until after the detonation.]] Good message - contradictory subtext.
** Well yes, [[spoiler: A kiloton bomb would kill a lot of things, but only if placed near things that can die, the bomb was placed right by the middle of the forest and the sea, there isn't a lot of creatures living on the beach that it would severely affect the island's ecosystem. Though I agree that a detonation that size, even if it is just on an uninhabited island, would be noticed, but that doesn't matter much, unless it leads the group that noticed it on a hunt to see what caused the detonation (possible sequel)]] and yeah [[spoiler: the communicator/the Monitor (I have no idea what its called,) was not shut down before the detonation, but the Earth's future can still be fixed, the bomb has nothing to do with the apocalypse, and since they've recruited tons of dreamers by the end, and even just one has the potential to change the future, imagine what approximately a hundred of them could accomplish, and this number grows daily, as the recruitment wasn't just a one time thing.]]
* [[spoiler: The rocket flying out over Paris wipes out all electronics. No phones, no cars, no pacemakers, no hospitals and god help any planes that are flying.]]
** [[spoiler: Hospitals ''may'' be able to protect themselves with backup generators, but the EMP seems to be targeted at the ground (where the majority of people with cameras would be), which probably wouldn't hit planes overhead.]]
* Fridge moment about the timeline: [[spoiler: Tomorrowland appears to be based on Walt Disney's ideal when he was dreaming up the original EPCOT, ie a utopian city. The Monitor is implied to have been created in the 1960s, and caused people to lose hope in the future. Walt Disney died in 1966, and his death caused people to lose hope in EPCOT, thus it's redesign into a theme park instead of a utopian city. ]] Coincidental?

** How many ants die is irrelevant. [[spoiler: The problem of this movie is that the characters talk about hope while the plot stacks powder kegs, schedules an imminent apocalypse, lines up a willing audience, and has the heroes throw in a lit match. The happy ending with the new dreamers doesn't follow. It's Just like the Eiffel tower rocket - looks awe inspiring, but thousands of people are dying because all the electronics was fried by the resulting EMP. And why? Why did they need the EMP? Or the bomb? Why the incessant nuke foreshadowing? Couldn't the rocket be awe-inspiring without the ill-conceived EMP? Couldn't the fight with Nix happen without the ill-conceived bomb? Couldn't Casey pass a random gang graffiti instead of a nuke?]]
** [[spoiler: Honestly, for all it's violence and post-apocalyptic setting, Mad Max - Fury Road was a more hopeful and more consistent movie than Tomorrowland.]]

** How many ants die is irrelevant. [[spoiler: The problem of this movie is that the characters talk about hope while the plot stacks powder kegs, schedules an imminent apocalypse, lines up a willing audience, and has the heroes throw in a lit match. The happy ending with the new dreamers doesn't follow. It's Just like the Eifel tower rocket - looks awe inspiring, but thousands of people are dying because all the electronics was fried by the resulting EMP. And why? Why did they need the EMP? Or the bomb? Why the incessant nuke foreshadowing? Couldn't the rocket be awe-inspiring without the ill-conceived EMP? Couldn't the fight with Nix happen without the ill-conceived bomb? Couldn't Casey pass a random gang graffiti instead of a nuke? The movie is unintentionally feeding the wrong wolf.]]

** How many ants die is irrelevant. The problem of this movie is that [[spoiler: the characters talk about hope while the plot stacks powder kegs, shedueles an immenent apocalypse, lines up a willing audience, and has the heroes throw in a lit match. The happy ending with the new dreamers doesn't follow. It's Just like the Eifel tower rocket - looks awe inspiring, but thousands of people are dying because all the electronics was fried by the resulting EMP. And why? Why did they need the EMP? Why did they make the bomb a kiloton one - a term used for nukes? Why do the heroes have a bomb at all? Why the incessant nuke foreshadowing?
Couldn't the rocket be awe-inspiring without the ill-conceived EMP? Couldn't the fight with Nix happen without the ill-conceived bomb? Couldn't Casey pass a random gang graffiti instead of a nuke?]] The movie is unintentionally feeding the wrong wolf.

** [[spoiler: Hospitals ''may'' be able to protect themselves with backup generators, but the EMP seems to be targeted at the ground (where the majority of people with cameras would be), which probably wouldn't hit planes overhead.]]

* [[spoiler: The rocket flying out over Paris wipes out all electronics. No phones, no cars, no pacemakers, no hospitals and god help any planes that are flying.]]

** Well yes, [[spoiler: A kiloton bomb would kill a lot of things, but only if placed near things that can die, the bomb was placed right by the middle of the forest and the sea, there isn't a lot of creatures living on the beach that it would severely affect the island's ecosystem. Though I agree that a detonation that size, even if it is just on an uninhabited island, would be noticed, but that doesn't matter much, unless it leads the group that noticed it on a hunt to see what caused the detonation (possible sequel)]] and yeah [[spoiler: the communicator/the Monitor (I have no idea what its called,) was not shut down before the detonation, but the Earth's future can still be fixed, the bomb has nothing to do with the apocalypse, and since they've recruited tons of dreamers by the end, and even just one has the potential to change the future, imagine what approximately a hundred of them could accomplish, and this number grows daily, as the recruitment wasn't just a one time thing.]]

** [[spoiler: The island is uninhabited, not uncharted. There are no uncharted or even unclaimed islands on Earth. A one kiloton bomb would kill a lot of things and would not go unnoticed. It is never established / mentioned / implied that the portal has that effect. The communicator isn't shut down until after the detonation.]] Good message - contradictory subtext.

** Its heavily implied that that BadFuture can be changed/prevented by enough people if they worked toward their genuine ideal future, as evidenced by [[spoiler: the flickering of the displays, showing clear skies instead of the riots and such,]] and even so, [[spoiler: Casey theorized that the communications tower broadcasted the negative images of the end into people's minds, thereby influencing the future. And that structure was already destroyed.]] Also, [[spoiler: they threw the bomb onto an uncharted island, the only things there would be animals, and even so, the ecosystem wouldn't be severely damaged, as the bomb exploded on the beach, far enough from the forest and the sea to actually kill much of anything. Furthermore, the explosion might as well have been dispersed through the portal, lessening the damage even more.]]

* The subtext of the movie contradict it's theme. Yes, the explicit message is optimism, yes it's got the overt happy ending, but... [[spoiler: Civilization is on the brink of implosion, with ''less than two months'' before The Noise, which ends in Apocalypse and includes at least one nuke. In fact, nucelear detoantions are shown throughout the movie: at shcool, on grafiti, in the memorabilia shop... The good guys end up chucking a one kiloton bomb to Earth.]] Feeding the wrong wolf, much?

* The world is doomed: [[spoiler: Civilization is on the brink of implosion, with less than two months before The Noise, which ends in Apocalypse and includes at least one nuke. In fact, nucelear detoantions are shown throughout the movie: at shcool, on grafiti, in the memorabilia shop... The good guys end up chucking a one kiloton bomb to Earth.]]