History Fridge / Thor

16th Mar '18 3:04:30 PM siberia82
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* Just before the fight between the Frost Giants and the Asgardians in the first act, Loki quickly accepts Laufey's offer to leave Jötunheim without any quarrel. It appears to be a simple act of cowardice/pacifism to establish Loki's character as the opposite of [[BloodKnight Thor's]]. It could also have been Loki showing his psychological acumen, getting one up on Thor before he (Thor) could reject the offer -- with Loki speaking up immediately, Thor essentially [[SadisticChoice has to choose]] between starting a petty argument with his brother in front of his kingdom's enemy (which would make him look foolish/imply discord within his family), and walking away from a fight. He chooses the lesser of two evils, [[TemptingFate until he's told to "Run back home, little princess."]]\\
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Loki's reaction of "[[DeadpanSnarker Damn]]" was possibly his way of saying "I manipulated Thor into not fighting you, and you just blew it. [[SarcasmMode Congratulations]]." Also plays into the idea that Thor smiled after the "princess" comment because Thor is thinking something along the lines of "Yes, thank you for giving me a good reason to fight!"
* Also remember the one famous incident in mythology, where Thor had to dress as a woman in a wedding dress to get his hammer back. If the same incident happened in the MCU, it would make sense for Thor to get super-pissed off when he hears it, [[NeverLiveItDown probably re-opened an old wound]].

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* Just before the fight between the Frost Giants and the Asgardians in the first act, Loki quickly accepts Laufey's offer to leave Jötunheim without any quarrel. It appears to be a simple act of cowardice/pacifism to establish Loki's character as the opposite of [[BloodKnight Thor's]]. It could also have been Loki showing his psychological acumen, getting one up on Thor before he (Thor) could reject the offer -- with Loki speaking up immediately, Thor essentially [[SadisticChoice has to choose]] between starting a petty argument with his brother in front of his kingdom's enemy (which would make him look foolish/imply discord within his family), and walking away from a fight. He chooses the lesser of two evils, [[TemptingFate until he's told to "Run back home, little princess."]]\\
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Loki's reaction of "[[DeadpanSnarker Damn]]" was possibly his way of saying "I manipulated Thor into not fighting you, and you just blew it. [[SarcasmMode Congratulations]]." Also plays into the idea that Thor smiled after the "princess" comment because Thor is thinking something along the lines of "Yes, thank you for giving me a good reason to fight!"
* ** Also remember the one famous incident in mythology, Myth/NorseMythology, where Thor had to dress as a woman in a wedding dress to get his hammer back. If the same incident happened in the MCU, it would make sense for Thor to get super-pissed off when he hears it, [[NeverLiveItDown probably re-opened an old wound]].



* While it's not obvious at first glance due to the heavy Frost Giant make-up and prosthetics, the filmmakers made an excellent choice casting Colm Feore as Laufey because his [[http://media.tumblr.com/8daa12ca92ffb26d55393e74c6ba41cf/tumblr_inline_mwfa6q5TU91qcbgrk.jpg facial bone structure is virtually identical]] to Tom Hiddleston's.

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* While it's not obvious at first glance due to the heavy Frost Giant make-up and prosthetics, the filmmakers made an excellent choice casting Colm Feore Creator/ColmFeore as Laufey because his [[http://media.tumblr.com/8daa12ca92ffb26d55393e74c6ba41cf/tumblr_inline_mwfa6q5TU91qcbgrk.jpg facial bone structure is virtually identical]] to Tom Hiddleston's.Creator/TomHiddleston's.
* Immediately after Laufey tells Thor, "Your father is a murderer and a thief!", we see a close-up of [[spoiler:Loki]], who is a "stolen relic" that Odin took from Jötunheim.



* The casting of the Afro-British actor Idris Elba as Heimdall is very fitting, because in Norse mythology Heimdall is the ancestor of all mankind, and in RealLife [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#The_East_African_fossils humankind originated in Africa]].

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* The casting of the Afro-British actor Idris Elba as Heimdall is very fitting, because in Norse mythology Heimdall is the ancestor of all mankind, and in RealLife [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_evolution#The_East_African_fossils humankind originated in Africa]].Africa.]]



* Thor is totally serious when he asks for a dog big enough to ride. There's a myth about Thor lifting a giant cat. And no, it's not one of the "apocryphal, might have been made up later" myths, it's one of the few preserved myths of Jormungandr. Not to mention his mother, Frigga, actually rode a chariot pulled by ''cats''. And ''Film/{{Ragnarok}}'' gave us with Fenris a wolf who might even be to ''tall'' to ride.

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* Thor is totally serious when he asks for a dog big enough to ride. There's a myth about Thor lifting a giant cat. And no, it's not one of the "apocryphal, might have been made up later" myths, it's one of the few preserved myths of Jormungandr. Not to mention his mother, Frigga, actually rode a chariot pulled by ''cats''. And ''Film/{{Ragnarok}}'' gave us with Fenris a wolf who might even be to too ''tall'' to ride.



* Not so much Fridge Brilliance as Fridge Douchebag, but in one of the deleted scenes, before Thor's coronation, he and Loki have a bit of brotherly banter. They're taking the piss out of each other a bit, Loki teases Thor about his winged helmet and Thor responds by laughing and calling him a cow. At first, it's a little inexplicable, and seems like a joke about Loki's stupid horned helmet (for that matter, Thor, ''bulls'' have horns, and aren't prettily winged helmets a Valkyrie thing?). But comparing a man to a female animal capable of giving birth (specifically your younger brother who, y'know, gave birth to Sleipnir and is already in a dodgy place vis-a-vis masculinity due to his use of magic) was a grave insult in Norse culture. Just bantering around and calling your brother a shameful queer, no big deal.

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* Not so much Fridge Brilliance as Fridge Douchebag, but in one of the deleted scenes, before Thor's coronation, he and Loki have a bit of brotherly banter. They're taking the piss out of each other a bit, Loki teases Thor about his winged helmet and Thor responds by laughing and calling him a cow. At first, it's a little inexplicable, and seems like a joke about Loki's stupid horned helmet (for that matter, Thor, ''bulls'' have horns, and aren't prettily winged helmets a Valkyrie thing?). But comparing a man to a female animal capable of giving birth (specifically your younger brother who, y'know, gave birth to Sleipnir and is already in a dodgy place vis-a-vis vis-à-vis masculinity due to his use of magic) was a grave insult in Norse culture. Just bantering around and calling your brother a shameful queer, no big deal.



* Thor's BerserkButton of being called "princess" might have been a clever reference to one of the legends where Thor had to dress as Freya, the goddess of love, to retrieve Mjölnir when it had been stolen by the Frost Giants!



* In the scene in the diner when Thor is having breakfast, he smashes the cup he just finished when he asks for another. This goes to the belief that to taste the same, a new cup must be used. It also honors the chef by not allowing the cup just used to be re-used for "a lesser purpose".

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* In the scene in the diner when Thor is having breakfast, he smashes the cup he just finished when he asks for another. This goes to the belief that to taste the same, a new cup must be used. It also honors the chef by not allowing the cup just used to be re-used for "a lesser purpose".purpose."



* When Eric asked Darcy about being a science major, she corrects him by saying "political science". Jane mentions Darcy was the only applicant, which makes sense since the rest of the scientific community (and presumably, college students) don't think her theories are any good. No other student would want to waste their time.

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* When Eric asked Darcy about being a science major, she corrects him by saying "political science". science." Jane mentions Darcy was the only applicant, which makes sense since the rest of the scientific community (and presumably, college students) don't think her theories are any good. No other student would want to waste their time.
1st Mar '18 2:19:17 PM Hjortron18
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* This one about the casting of Heimdall as a black man. Asgardians are magical aliens who were worshiped as gods by the Norse; they can have as much variety as humans. The Norse obviously represented their gods as their own race.
** Except Heimdall in described as being the whitest and palest of all the Gods in the mythology.
*** So the Norse just described Heimdall as the whitest and palest of all the Gods because that's what appealed to them.
*** Or they honestly didn't ''know'' Heimdall was dark-skinned, because he spent all of human history guarding the Bifröst. He's probably the only Asgardian whose name was known to them who ''didn't'' actually visit Earth and impress the hell out of them.

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* This one about About the casting of Heimdall as a black man. man: Asgardians are magical aliens who were worshiped as gods by the Norse; they can have as much variety as humans. The Norse obviously represented their gods as their own race.
** Except Heimdall in described as being the whitest and palest of all the Gods in the mythology.
*** So the Norse just described Heimdall as the whitest and palest of all the Gods because that's what appealed to them.
*** Or they honestly didn't ''know'' Heimdall was dark-skinned, because he spent all of human history guarding the Bifröst. He's probably the only Asgardian whose name was known to them who ''didn't'' actually visit Earth and impress the hell out of them.
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** Except Heimdall in described as being the whitest and palest of all the Gods in the mythology.
*** So the Norse just described Heimdall as the whitest and palest of all the Gods because that's what appealed to them.



* [[spoiler: Loki surviving his DisneyVillainDeath may at first come off as an ass pull, but then you may remember his earlier conversation with Heimdall where he taunted him over knowing various secret passages to other dimensions.]]
1st Mar '18 7:19:15 AM RoseUnity
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** Even before his revelation on Earth, Thor might've balked at what Loki was doing, or at least how he was doing it. He was annihilating the Frost Giants at long range with a weapon of mass (if not planetary) destruction. As he himself pointed out, Thor was happy to do the same with his bare hands... it gave the Frost Giants a chance to fight back, at least.
24th Jan '18 9:06:48 AM Hjortron18
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* In the same deleted scene before the coronation, Loki tells Thor to never doubt that he loves him. While it might just be Loki trying to reassure the nervous Thor, it could also be Loki's way to apologize in advance so that Thor would remembers this words should he find out that Loki is behind his interrupted coronation.



* Odin murmurs "No, Loki" a couple of seconds before Thor yells the same thing, having suddenly realized what Loki is going to do. Odin's most significant power in mythology is ''prescience'', a gift that forewarned him of Ragnarok and for which he traded his missing eye. The All-Father didn't ''deduce'' that [[spoiler: Loki was going to let go of Gungnir and drop into the Void]], he ''saw'' it before it happened.

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* Odin murmurs "No, Loki" a couple of seconds before Thor yells the same thing, having suddenly realized what Loki is going to do. Odin's most significant power in mythology is ''prescience'', a gift that forewarned him of Ragnarok and for which he traded his missing eye. The All-Father didn't ''deduce'' that [[spoiler: Loki was going to let go of Gungnir and drop into the Void]], he ''saw'' it before it happened.


24th Jan '18 8:48:20 AM Hjortron18
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* Thor is totally serious when he asks for a dog big enough to ride. Asgard must have amazingly crazy animal life on it. There's a myth about Thor lifting a giant cat. And no, it's not one of the "apocryphal, might have been made up later" myths, it's one of the few preserved myths of Jormungandr. Not to mention his mother, Frigga, actually rode a chariot pulled by ''cats''. So, in all likelihood, there is some huge wildlife on Asgard.

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* Thor is totally serious when he asks for a dog big enough to ride. Asgard must have amazingly crazy animal life on it. There's a myth about Thor lifting a giant cat. And no, it's not one of the "apocryphal, might have been made up later" myths, it's one of the few preserved myths of Jormungandr. Not to mention his mother, Frigga, actually rode a chariot pulled by ''cats''. So, in all likelihood, there is some huge wildlife on Asgard.And ''Film/{{Ragnarok}}'' gave us with Fenris a wolf who might even be to ''tall'' to ride.
14th Nov '17 8:11:58 PM DLMaximum1
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14th Nov '17 8:10:01 PM DLMaximum1
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* A lot of the extreme or irresponsible reactions and behavior of Thor and Loki, while actually in keeping with their mythological counterparts, can also be explained by their physical age versus their mental age. This troper calculated it a while ago: Loki implies in the sequel that Asgardians live for about five thousand years. Taking the average human life expectancy as roughly eighty years, and assuming that Asgardians mature mentally at a rate more or less proportional to their lifespan - like humans - 62.5 years for an Asgardian is roughly one year of human development. So assuming that Loki was born during or at the end of the war between Asgard and Jotunheim, circa 965 C.E., and that Thor as the older brother is a few years/decades older, both of them are actually only ''seventeen years old'' mentally. That explains a lot.

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* A lot of the extreme or irresponsible reactions and behavior of Thor and Loki, while actually in keeping with their mythological counterparts, can also be explained by their physical age versus their mental age. This troper calculated it a while ago: Loki implies in the sequel that Asgardians live for about five thousand years. Taking the average human life expectancy as roughly eighty years, and assuming that Asgardians mature mentally at a rate more or less proportional to their lifespan - like humans - 62.5 years for an Asgardian is roughly one year of human development. So assuming that Loki was born during or at the end of the war between Asgard and Jotunheim, Jötunheim, circa 965 C.E., and that Thor as the older brother is a few years/decades older, both of them are actually only ''seventeen years old'' mentally. That explains a lot.
14th Nov '17 11:56:33 AM DLMaximum1
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* The way the Asgardians seem to view the PunyHumans as almost totally insignificant is not really emphasized, but it is there. Even Thor himself is not immune to this: When informed that his brother has ''murdered 80 people'', he just shrugs and says "He's adopted", rather than being ''completely horrified.'' Odin boots Thor to Earth without worrying what that means for humanity; the fact that people built a CargoCult around them seems of no interest to the Asgardians. Seriously, any given one of them has a lot more respect for Frost Giants than for humans. For them, humans may not even register as people.

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* The way the Asgardians seem to view the PunyHumans as almost totally insignificant is not really emphasized, but it is there. Even Thor himself is not immune to this: When when informed that his brother has ''murdered 80 people'', he just shrugs and says "He's adopted", rather than being ''completely horrified.'' Odin boots Thor to Earth without worrying what that means for humanity; the fact that people built a CargoCult around them seems of no interest to the Asgardians. Seriously, any given one of them has a lot more respect for Frost Giants than for humans. For them, humans may not even register as people.
14th Nov '17 11:53:30 AM DLMaximum1
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* The Bifröst, an arcane piece of {{Magitek}} that the Asgardians use to travel to other realms and back... and that has the power to ''[[EarthShatteringKaboom destroy entire planets]]'' when it stays focused on the same target for too long. We get to see how the rainbow bridge beam starts to bend time and space around it while it lays waste to Jötunheim. Doing so appears to put huge strain on the technology to the point that it begins to tear itself apart, but that's probably nothing Asgard can't fix in no time after the deed is done. Imagine something like this happening to Earth because some Asgardian goes off the deep end and decides to squash the humans (or because Heimdall just forgot to turn the damn thing off).

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* The Bifröst, an arcane piece of {{Magitek}} that the Asgardians use to travel to other realms and back... and that has the power to ''[[EarthShatteringKaboom destroy entire planets]]'' when it stays focused on the same target for too long. We get to see how the rainbow bridge beam starts to bend time and space around it while it lays waste to Jötunheim. Doing so appears to put a huge strain on the technology to the point that it begins to tear itself apart, but that's probably nothing Asgard can't fix in no time after the deed is done. Imagine something like this happening to Earth because some Asgardian goes off the deep end and decides to squash the humans (or because Heimdall just forgot to turn the damn thing off).
14th Nov '17 11:47:46 AM DLMaximum1
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* Thor's final battle against the Destroyer is kind of underwhelming at first glance -- he's slugging it in a podunk town in the southwest, laying his life on the line for people who are basically a bunch of nobodies in the greater scheme of things. Thing is, ''Thor'' is all about the title character learning ''humility''. Rescuing "important" people in a flashy battle in, say, [[BigApplesauce NYC]] would have done nothing but feed an already bloated ego.

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* Thor's final battle against the Destroyer is kind of underwhelming at first glance -- he's slugging it out in a podunk town in the southwest, laying his life on the line for people who are basically a bunch of nobodies in the greater scheme of things. Thing is, ''Thor'' is all about the title character learning ''humility''. Rescuing "important" people in a flashy battle in, say, [[BigApplesauce NYC]] would have done nothing but feed an already bloated ego.
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