History Fridge / TheRunningMan

7th Sep '16 2:47:43 AM DoctorNemesis
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** There is an element of FridgeBrilliance here; fascists as a whole tend to be both sexually repressive and prudish while simultaneously championing traditional gender roles, part of often includes large families. In Nazi Germany, for example, it was considered a woman's patriotic duty to have a large family and give birth to many children. It's notable that the pill emphasises 'procreation' (i.e. breeding) rather than sex by itself; it's presented as a pill that's going to enable you to have lots of children rather than a pill that's going to let you fuck whoever you want whenever you want, so presumably it enhances fertility rather than facilitates sex. As for why it comes in a 'child' size... yeah, this society's pretty fucked up.
24th Feb '16 3:13:09 PM Nakuyabi
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* It might initially seem ridiculous that Amber Mendez was able to smuggle the tape containing the EXTREMELY incriminating evidence on the government into the game show undetected. Sure, she tells Ben Richards it's "none of your business" where she hid the footage, but c'mon, she was caught red-handed rifling through the filing-cabinet. Then again, the "crimes" they make up against her (which include having sex with 2, and sometimes 3 different men a year) indicate that this dystopian future society is rather sexually repressive. Hence, its most loyal enforcers would be tend to be uncomfortable with searching through any woman's "special" hiding places.
** Alternately, while the enforcers ''could'' bring themselves to strip-search her, they didn't have the time. She wasn't discovered rooting through the records until the night the show was on, and they were pressed for time to get her into costume to bring her onto the show.
** Technically, the ReallyGetsAround smear wasn't indicated to be a crime, [[EvilIsPetty just a little extra dirt]] to go with her supposedly being the Butcher of Bakersfield's accomplice: "She's not only a criminal, but a slut too!" They were rather short of time to search Amber, and Killian was looking to drive his ratings even higher by any means he could, including bringing on a mystery contestant. There's also the possibility that they didn't realize she'd actually stolen anything; the edited video was still in the cabinet and the raw footage she took was located behind it. While they did obviously notice where she was looking, her arrest was specifically for being in an off-limits archive, not the theft of the video.
** Another possibility: they knew Amber Menendez had the recorded chip on her somewhere, but didn't care. As Richards' fellow contestants noted, their resistance movement actually had a base out in the game zone, but had never found the up-link satellite dish that was also out there because "No one ever comes out here." The people in the studio didn't know any of the contestants had friends out there, and probably just figured that the recording (which they no longer needed for anything) would be fried or mangled or just plain lost along with her corpse when she inevitably met some gruesome demise.
* One FunnyBackgroundEvent you can catch if you're paying attention is when the announcer is telling the people in the audience what kinds of prizes they can win. One of them is "Ortho-Pure Procreation Pills" which are also mentioned to be "available in adult's and child's sizes." ''Recreation'' pills might make sense if this society has legalized recreational drugs as part of its BreadAndCircuses, but ''Procreation''? Aside from the obvious potential {{Squick}}y implications if these are indeed some kind of fantastic Viagra or the like, this doesn't really square with the dystopian society's sexual mores.
24th Feb '16 2:46:39 PM Nakuyabi
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* Killian has Richards' and Amber's faces digitally mapped onto stunt doubles for the televised battle with Captain Freedom. Since Captain Freedom tosses them into spikes, this means that Killian had two stunt doubles ''killed'' to fake Richards' death.
** Probably Captain Freedom aswell. Especially since he wasn't seen since his fallout with Killian.
* Amber changes her mind about Richards when she sees two people on the news supposedly in the hospital after being attacked by him. These are the same people who almost let him get away. Now, if a person is supposedly dying after a YouHaveFailedMe, what are the odds for a totalitarian government to let him live?

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* Killian has Richards' and Amber's faces digitally mapped onto stunt doubles for the televised battle with Captain Freedom. Since Captain Freedom tosses them into spikes, this means that Killian had two stunt doubles ''killed'' to fake Richards' death.
** Probably Captain Freedom aswell. Especially since he wasn't seen since his fallout with Killian.
* Amber changes her mind about Richards when she sees two people on the news supposedly in the hospital in critical condition after being attacked by him. These are the same people who almost let him get away. Now, if a person is supposedly dying portrayed as getting killed in fake footage after a YouHaveFailedMe, [[YouHaveFailedMe failing the state]] typically gets "[[{{Unperson}} removed]]" from reality as well, what are the odds for a that this totalitarian government allowed either of them to let live?
* Along the same lines, while he didn't die in the digitally faked footage showing
him live?killing Ben and Amber, the state would surely deem [[spoiler: Captain Freedom]] a failure and possibly a traitor too, and wouldn't want him around to testify to anyone that the whole game was rigged and his amazing "victory" was a total fraud...
7th Feb '16 12:53:20 PM worldbreaker
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** Probably Captain Freedom aswell. Especially since he wasn't seen since his fallout with Killian.
23rd Dec '15 8:30:59 AM CheeseDogX
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* When Killian shows the footage of last season's winners living it up in paradise, they're still wearing their game jumpsuits. This is our first hint that they didn't really survive the game.

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* When Killian shows the footage of last season's winners living it up in paradise, they're still wearing their game jumpsuits. This is our first a hint that they didn't really survive the game.
23rd Dec '15 8:30:22 AM CheeseDogX
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!!FridgeLogic
* When Killian shows the faked footage of last season's winners living it up in paradise, they're still wearing their game jumpsuits. Are we expected to believe that they're still wearing those things a year after leaving the Zone?

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!!FridgeBrilliance
* When Killian shows the faked footage of last season's winners living it up in paradise, they're still wearing their game jumpsuits. Are we expected to believe This is our first hint that they're still wearing those things a year after leaving they didn't really survive the Zone?
game.
23rd Dec '15 8:29:30 AM CheeseDogX
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!!FridgeLogic
* When Killian shows the faked footage of last season's winners living it up in paradise, they're still wearing their game jumpsuits. Are we expected to believe that they're still wearing those things a year after leaving the Zone?
20th Apr '15 11:24:13 PM CaptainCrawdad
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** No he didn't; it was old Footage of Captain Freedom. Those weren't stunt doubles, they were contestants.
** That's not specifically stated. In fact, what is stated is that Richards' face is being mapped onto a stunt double.
*** Yes, he did- one of Killian's aides complains that it wasn't necessary to murder the stunt guy, which he casually dismisses as being "show business".
20th Apr '15 11:23:30 PM CaptainCrawdad
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!!FridgeBrilliance:
* Initially, I thought that it was ridiculous that Amber Mendez was able to smuggle the tape containing the EXTREMELY incriminating evidence on the government into the gameshow undetected. Sure, she uses the classic "Women have more hiding-places" line, but c'mon, she was caught red-handed rifling through the filing-cabinet - and considering what you gotta go through to get on a PLANE today, WITHOUT first being caught with your hands in a cookie-jar of dirty government secrets, it seems unthinkable that they'd fail to find the tape anyway. But then I realized - the 'crimes' they make up against her (which, as I recall, includes 'having sex with 3 different men in a year) indicate that this dystopian future society is extremely puritan on matters of sexuality (while being extremely liberal on matters of EXTREME VIOLENCE - anyone else get a hint of societal critique here?), including enforced monogamy at the very least. Hence, its enforcers would be uncomfortable searching through those 'extra hiding-places', making it a long-shot, but not entirely impossible, that Amber would be able to keep the tape hidden in her TrouserSpace... -- BlackDragon
** Alternately, folks willing to search all those places weren't necessarily hard to find, but hard to find in the time they had. She wasn't discoverd rooting through the records until the night the show was on, and they were rushed to get her in costume to have her be part of the act. As for why Killian didn't go for a quieter method of dealing with her? I dunno, he's an [[VillainBall 80's action movie villain.]]
** Technically, the ReallyGetsAround smear wasn't indicated to be a crime, [[EvilIsPetty just a little extra dirt]] to go with her supposedly being the Butcher of Bakersfield's accomplice: "She's not only a criminal, but a slut too!" They were rather short of time to search Amber, and Killian was looking to drive his ratings even higher by any means he could, including bringing on a mystery contestant. There's also the possibility that they didn't realize she'd actually stolen anything; the edited video was still in the cabinet and the raw footage she took was located behind it. While they did obviously notice where she was looking, her arrest was specifically for being in an off-limits archive, not the theft of the video.
** Another possibility: they knew Amber Menendez had the recorded chip on her somewhere, but didn't care. As Richards' fellow contestants noted, their resistance movement actually had a base out in the game zone, but had never found the up-link satellite dish that was also out there because "No one ever comes out here." The people in the studio didn't know any of the contestants had friends out there, and probably just figured that the recording (which they no longer needed for anything) would be fried or mangled or just plain lost along with her corpse when she inevitably met some gruesome demise.

!!FridgeLogic:
* One FunnyBackgroundEvent you can catch if you're paying attention is when the announcer is telling the people in the audience what kinds of prizes they can win. One of them is "Ortho-Pure Procreation Pills" which are also mentioned to be "available in adult's and child's sizes." ''Recreation'' pills might make sense if this society has legalized recreational drugs as part of its BreadAndCircuses, but ''Procreation''? Aside from the obvious potential {{Squick}}y implications if these are indeed some kind of fantastic Viagra or the like, how exactly does this square with the dystopian society's stated sexual mores?

* When the movie shows the previous seasons "Winners," they're smiling and waving in front of some fairly obvious blue screens. However, the thing that hit me after watching the movie a couple times is that they're both still in their spandex contestant jumpsuits. Didn't anyone in the audience think that was a bit odd?
** See I just figured they'd think they put them back on for the show and all.

* Why would the government frame Richards for the Bakersfield Massacre in the first place? What did they gain out of it? They had to have known that firing on a crowd of unarmed civilians would either piss off the people or frighten them into submission. But you can only frighten people like that if they believe that the government is willing to kill them, not if they believe that it was the act of a single rogue pilot.
** The people were clearly more pissed off than frightened by Bakersfield anyway; frightening them into submission probably wasn't the plan. The totalitarian society of ''The Running Man'' seems to work more on BreadAndCircuses-style apathy rather than fear; it's more ''Brave New World'' (keeping the population nice and docile through distraction) than ''Nineteen Eighty Four'' (keeping the population weak and frightened). Even the poor people in the shanty towns are distracted from their wretched lot by watching the show and making bets on it. Killian even says at one point that the point is to keep people in front of the TV screens rather than rioting in the streets. So trying to frighten them into submission probably wasn't the game-plan, since that can also quite easily backfire; after all, if you're already poor. oppressed and starving, and the government makes it clear that it doesn't care and is going to machine gun you from above anyway just for being poor, oppressed and starving, then you've got nothing left to lose by rising up and fighting them. By making Richards the fall guy, the government can both quell a potential unrest while keeping their hands clean by pointing it all towards him.
9th Sep '14 10:10:24 PM Omeganian
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*** Yes, he did- one of Killian's aides complains that it wasn't necessary to murder the stunt guy, which he casually dismisses as being "show business".

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*** Yes, he did- one of Killian's aides complains that it wasn't necessary to murder the stunt guy, which he casually dismisses as being "show business".business".
* Amber changes her mind about Richards when she sees two people on the news supposedly in the hospital after being attacked by him. These are the same people who almost let him get away. Now, if a person is supposedly dying after a YouHaveFailedMe, what are the odds for a totalitarian government to let him live?
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