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22nd Nov '16 7:17:16 AM Morgenthaler
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* The scene where the Corsairs of Umbar (well, their ships anyway) arrive at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields shows the orcs showing an OhCrap expression when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas step off seems a bit comical at first, since they're essentially showing fear of three people (remember, they don't even know about the ArmyOfTheDead thing yet). Taking a moment to see it from their view, it suddenly becomes a lot more understandable: "Wait, these aren't the people we were expecting! Who ''are'' these people? ''What have they done with our reinforcements?''"

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* The scene where the Corsairs of Umbar (well, their ships anyway) arrive at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields shows the orcs showing an OhCrap expression when Aragorn, Gimli, and Legolas step off seems a bit comical at first, since they're essentially showing fear of three people (remember, they don't even know about the ArmyOfTheDead CavalryOfTheDead thing yet). Taking a moment to see it from their view, it suddenly becomes a lot more understandable: "Wait, these aren't the people we were expecting! Who ''are'' these people? ''What have they done with our reinforcements?''"
2nd Nov '16 1:18:07 PM Allronix
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** And Hobbits just want to be left in peace, unnoticed, invisible.

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** And Hobbits just want to be left in peace, unnoticed, invisible. They want to farm their lands, eat the results, and be left alone. There's little in the way of hierarchy or rulers. Even Gollum had no desire for power or riches. He just wanted the ring to have it. Bilbo used it to become invisible. Samwise puts it on and sees a magnificent, Platonic ideal of a garden, but shakes it off by thinking of how much of a pain it would be to maintain. It's like their brains can't handle the concept. The reason Sauron never bothered handing a ring to Hobbits - they're both beneath concern ''and'' have no real capacity to want anything he could offer.
17th Sep '16 7:35:18 AM Stinkoman87
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*** Also, there's some symbolism there too. He found the Ring in water; he found it again in fire.
4th Jun '16 11:10:50 PM Historian1912
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* Why is Saruman so incapable of understanding the Ents and why does he prove to be such a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter when it comes to them? When the Dwarves were created, Yavanna, Vala of Nature, asked for her beloved trees to have a line of defense since trees are felled all the time and cannot protect themselves- so were the Ents made. She told her husband Aulë that no love will there be between her children, the Ents, and his children, the Dwarves, and the Dwarves will have little regard to things Yavanna hods dear because Aulë kept their creation in secret from her. Saruman was a Maia of Aulë- what if this means he, too, has little understanding of nature and Ents?

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* Why is Saruman so incapable of understanding the Ents and why does he prove to be such a HorribleJudgeOfCharacter when it comes to them? When the Dwarves were created, Yavanna, Vala of Nature, asked for her beloved trees to have a line of defense since trees are felled all the time and cannot protect themselves- so were the Ents made. She told her husband Aulë that no love will there be between her children, the Ents, and his children, the Dwarves, and the Dwarves will have little regard to things Yavanna hods holds dear because Aulë kept their creation in secret from her. Saruman was a Maia of Aulë- what if this means he, too, has little understanding of nature and Ents?
4th Jun '16 11:08:28 PM Historian1912
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** Up until the moment where Gandalf separates them, they are practically attached at the hip, with Merry always looking after Pippin (nearly ten years Merry's junior). When they are separated, Merry finds a new close friend in Éowyn and Pippin does the same with Faramir. Pippin ends up looking out for Faramir and even risking his own life to save him, by getting up on the pyre. Meanwhile, Merry lets Éowyn take care of him (even stated in dialogue - "''Whatever happens, stay with me. I'll look after you.''") After the Battle of Pelennor they are reunited, and it is now Pippin who looks after Merry. This is something Peter Jackson cultivated for the actors. During the filming of the first movie and beginning of the second, Jackson had Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan stay together as much as possible. They became good friends as a result. Once Pippin goes off with Gandalf, Jackson kept them apart until they filmed there scene after the Battle of Pelennor Fields. Reportedly, one of they first things they did was argue about whose armor was cooler looking.

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** Up until the moment where Gandalf separates them, they are practically attached at the hip, with Merry always looking after Pippin (nearly ten years Merry's junior). When they are separated, Merry finds a new close friend in Éowyn and Pippin does the same with Faramir. Pippin ends up looking out for Faramir and even risking his own life to save him, by getting up on the pyre. Meanwhile, Merry lets Éowyn take care of him (even stated in dialogue - "''Whatever happens, stay with me. I'll look after you.''") After the Battle of Pelennor they are reunited, and it is now Pippin who looks after Merry. This is something Peter Jackson cultivated for the actors. During the filming of the first movie and beginning of the second, Jackson had Billy Boyd and Dominic Monaghan stay together as much as possible. They became good friends as a result. Once Pippin goes off with Gandalf, Jackson kept them apart until they filmed there their scene after the Battle of Pelennor Fields. Reportedly, one of they first things they did was argue about whose armor was cooler looking.
10th May '16 1:12:02 AM Caspoi
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* Tolkien heavily disliked the idea of Orcs being AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters, whose evilness in inherent. Tat would make them actually even more terrifying: if they were AlwaysChaoticEvil, they could be seen as a whole race of woobie-types whose basic existence is suffering, but actually they are simply sadistic freaks who simply commit atrocities and enjoy it wholly.

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* Tolkien heavily disliked the idea of Orcs being AlwaysChaoticEvil monsters, whose evilness in inherent. Tat That would actually make them actually even more terrifying: if they were AlwaysChaoticEvil, they could be seen as a whole race of woobie-types whose basic existence is suffering, but actually they are simply sadistic freaks who simply commit atrocities and enjoy it wholly.
28th Apr '16 7:29:01 AM MrDeath
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* Crossing over with ''Literature/TheHobbit'', supposing Bilbo still remembers the incident with the spiders in Mirkwood well, how do you suppose he reacted when/if he eventually found out about the incident with Shelob? Imagining [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath what would have happened]] if Sam had been less stubborn, or if he'd been less lucky, would be horrifying for anyone, but Bilbo is Frodo's adoptive father and Sam's BenevolentBoss.

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* Crossing over with ''Literature/TheHobbit'', supposing Bilbo still remembers the incident with the spiders in Mirkwood well, how do you suppose he reacted when/if he eventually found out about the incident with Shelob? Imagining [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath what would have happened]] if Sam had been less stubborn, or if he'd been less lucky, would be horrifying for anyone, but Bilbo is Frodo's adoptive father and Sam's BenevolentBoss.
27th Apr '16 10:14:47 PM HeroGal2347
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* Crossing over with ''Literature/TheHobbit'', supposing Bilbo still remembers the incident with the spiders in Mirkwood well, how do you suppose he reacted when/if he eventually found out about the incident with Shelob? Imagining [[FamilyUnfriendlyDeath what would have happened]] if Sam had been less stubborn, or if he'd been less lucky, would be horrifying for anyone, but Bilbo is Frodo's adoptive father and Sam's BenevolentBoss.
2nd Apr '16 2:45:21 PM Wolfstix
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** Addtionally, it speaks to Galadriel's judge of character and her ability to see into the hearts of others: Fëanor, for all his gifts and hauteur, was unworthy of even a single strand because of his obsession, but Gimli son of Gloin, a ''dwarf'' whose admiration was humble and whose heart was good and heroic, receives three strands for the mere asking. Galadriel is no one's fool and would have known the immense symbolism of her gesture, especially so (relatively) soon after the Battle of Five Armies; but she also wouldn't have given it to just any dwarf.
7th Mar '16 11:21:30 PM moguera
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* Bilbo's seemingly immeasurable wealth seems odd, considering he returned to the Shire with a single chest of treasure that seemed to sustain him for decades, in spite of spending those decades giving lavish gifts to hobbits throughout the Shire. However, the events leading up to the party imply that a great many of the gifts that Bilbo gives out at his parties come from Dale and Erebor. In a sense, Bilbo has paid for them with his "one fourteenth share" of the treasure of Erebor, which he was contractually promised for helping the company on their quest. Aside from that one chest, the rest of his share is just being held at Erebor and being spent when he needs it.
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