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** Well, in "Left Behind" Riley quoted the 1939 Wizard of Oz movie (as in, you know, Ruby Slippers) and electricity exist in the more post-post apocalyptic zones (”Kids will be watching movies Tonight!") so it is not like media and culture was swallowed by a black hole during Outbreak Day.
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* When Ellie and Dina find Eugene's porn tapes, Dina pronounces the title of ''Smash Brandi's Cootch'' with the same syllable emphasis as the name of what it's parodying, ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot''. However, since Dina is roughly the same age as Ellie and thus was born well after the outbreak, it's unlikely she would have heard of the game to begin with, and therefore wouldn't have pronounced the title how she did.
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* When Ellie attempts to mimic Joel's style and Dina find Eugene's porn tapes, Dina pronounces the title of interrogation. Her inexperience shines through when ''Smash Brandi's Cootch'' with the same syllable emphasis as the name of what it's parodying, ''VideoGame/CrashBandicoot''. However, since Dina is roughly the same age as Ellie and thus was born well after the outbreak, it's unlikely she leaves people standing or otherwise not restrained while trying to get information out would have heard of the other. This allows her captives game to fight back whereas Joel's would be more willing to co-operatebegin with, and therefore wouldn't have pronounced the title how she did.
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* Some have noted that the people in the cult look incredibly similar to each other. Now you can chalk it up to Naughty Dog using the same skins to save time when creating characters, but remember these people are in a cult. Of course they're going to look the same.
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* Some have noted that the people in the cult look incredibly similar to each other. Now you can chalk it up to Naughty Dog using the same skins to save time when creating characters, but remember these people are in a cult. Of course they're going to look the same.same.
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* Ellie attempts to mimic Joel's style of interrogation. Her inexperience shines through when she leaves people standing or otherwise not restrained while trying to get information out of the other. This allows her captives to fight back whereas Joel's would be more willing to co-operate
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* Ellie attempts to mimic Joel's style of interrogation. Her inexperience shines through when she leaves people standing or otherwise not restrained while trying to get information out of the other. This allows her captives to fight back whereas Joel's would be more willing to co-operate
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** It could also provide an motivation for Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge.
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** It could also provide an motivation for Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge.RoaringRampageOfRevenge.
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** It could also provide an motivation for Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge.RoaringRampageofRevenge.
* Some have noted that the people in the cult look incredibly similar to each other. Now you can chalk it up to Naughty Dog using the same skins to save time when creating characters, but remember these people are in a cult. Of course they're going to look the same.
* Some have noted that the people in the cult look incredibly similar to each other. Now you can chalk it up to Naughty Dog using the same skins to save time when creating characters, but remember these people are in a cult. Of course they're going to look the same.
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** It could also be referring to how the cult will play a role in this game. Seeing as how they cult refer to Ellie as a wolf, and they probably see themselves as the shepherds saving the "sheep" or call themselves "saviors of the human race".
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* If the theory that [[spoiler:Joel is dead]] is true, that also leads some fridge to one of the lines Ellie sings as the camera focuses on him or [[spoiler:his ghost/Ellie's imagination:]] ''"... and I will dwell on this Earth forever more."''
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* If the theory that [[spoiler:Joel is dead]] is true, that also leads some fridge to one of the lines Ellie sings as the camera focuses on him or [[spoiler:his ghost/Ellie's imagination:]] ''"... and I will dwell on this Earth forever more."''"''
** It could also provide an motivation for Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge.
** It could also provide an motivation for Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge.
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* Even worse is how the last game ended. Ellie believes that there are others immune to the cordyceps infection like her. It could be possible that during the TimeSkip or later in the game she learns the truth and how Joel basically lied to her about the Fireflies. If they're the focus of Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge, it could pretty much mean that it's AllForNothing!
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* Even worse is how the last game ended. Ellie believes that there are others immune to the cordyceps infection like her. It could be possible that during the TimeSkip or later in the game she learns the truth and how Joel basically lied to her about the Fireflies. If they're the focus of Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge, RoaringRampageOfRevenge, it could pretty much mean that it's AllForNothing!
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* Even worse is how the last game ended. Ellie believes that there are others immune to the cordyceps infection like her. It could be possible that during the TimeSkip or later in the game she learns the truth and how Joel basically lied to her about the Fireflies. If they're the focus of Ellie's RoaringRampageofRevenge, it could pretty much mean that it's AllForNothing!
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* Pretty much the only reason the first game did not have a DownerEnding (just a very bitter BitterSweetEnding) was that, basically, Ellie lived and showed herself to be a decent person in spite of everything. The second game's teaser - '''just the teaser!!''' - shoots that all to hell by revealing Ellie has become just as cold, bitter, angry, unstable and violent as Joel regretted becoming. Retroactively, the first game is now Ellie's StartOfDarkness!
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**Which, in retrospect, could bring back on the table what was originally in store for the first game: [[http://images.pushsquare.com/news/2014/07/weirdness_what_if_animals_got_infected_in_the_last_of_us_fiction/attachment/1/original.jpg Like this infected LION...]]
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* One of the first shots of the trailer shows a tree with deep claw marks in it. Given how none of the first game's infected had claws this indicates that we'll likely have new types of infected able to leave a mark like that. Or it could even be an infected ''animal''.
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* One of the first shots of the trailer teaser shows a tree with deep claw marks in it. Given how none of the first game's infected had claws this indicates that we'll likely have new types of infected able to leave a mark like that. Or it could even be an infected ''animal''.
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* If the theory that [[spoiler:Joel is dead]] is true, that also leads some fridge to one of the lines Ellie sings as the camera focuses on him or [[spoiler:his ghost/Ellie's imagination:]] ''"... and I will dwell on this Earth forever more."''
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* Look at the windows in the room Ellie's sitting in (best visible when Joel walks in). ''It looks like the same windows from the opening menu of the first game.''
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* Look at the windows in the room Ellie's sitting in (best visible when Joel walks in). ''It looks like the same windows from the opening menu of the first game.''''
* Not only are the lyrics to "Through the Valley" that Ellie sings in the trailer a good indication of her ThenLetMeBeEvil mindset, the rest of the lyrics that we ''don't'' hear are a pretty good match to the original story of the game too, particularly with Joel's famous ending decision:
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--> ''Said he come to save the world from destruction and pain''
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* Not only are the lyrics to "Through the Valley" that Ellie sings in the trailer a good indication of her ThenLetMeBeEvil mindset, the rest of the lyrics that we ''don't'' hear are a pretty good match to the original story of the game too, particularly with Joel's famous ending decision:
--> ''Well I came upon a man at the top of a hill''
--> ''call himself the saviour of the human race''
--> ''Said he come to save the world from destruction and pain''
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* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and the developers noting the the theme of ''The Last Of Us Part II'' will be hate. It is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her--and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.
** From Ellie's behavior it is likely that in storming the community they killed many of its residents and considering the ending where Joel and Ellie decide to live at Tommys community does that mean that Tommy and possibly his wife Maria were killed in the attack.
** From Ellie's behavior it is likely that in storming the community they killed many of its residents and considering the ending where Joel and Ellie decide to live at Tommys community does that mean that Tommy and possibly his wife Maria were killed in the attack.
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* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and the developers noting the the theme of ''The Last Of Us Part II'' will be hate. It hate, it is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her--and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.
** From Ellie's behavior it is likely that in storming the community they killed many of its residents and considering the ending where Joel and Ellie decide to live at Tommys community does that mean that Tommy and possibly his wife Maria were killed in the attack.himself.
** From Ellie's behavior it is likely that in storming the community they killed many of its residents and considering the ending where Joel and Ellie decide to live at Tommys community does that mean that Tommy and possibly his wife Maria were killed in the attack.
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** From Ellie's behavior it is likely that in storming the community they killed many of its residents and considering the ending where Joel and Ellie decide to live at Tommys community does that mean that Tommy and possibly his wife Maria were killed in the attack.
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* In the previous game, Joel mentions wanting to teach Ellie how to play guitar at some point once their adventure was over. Looks like that happened.
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* Look at the windows in the room Ellie's sitting in (best visible when Joel walks in). ''It looks like the same windows from the opening menu of the first game.''
* Look at the windows in the room Ellie's sitting in (best visible when Joel walks in). ''It looks like the same windows from the opening menu of the first game.''
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* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and the developers noting the the theme of ''The Last Of Us Part II'' will be hate. It is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her--and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.himself.
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*In the previous game, Joel mentions wanting to teach Ellie how to play guitar at some point once their adventure was over. Looks like that happened.
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*In the previous game, Joel mentions wanting to teach Ellie how to play guitar at some point once their adventure was over. Looks like that happened.
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* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and The the developers noting the the theme of the ''The Last of US ll Of Us Part II'' will be hate. It is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her and her--and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.
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* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and The developers noting the the theme of the Last of US ll will be hate. It is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.
* With it being confirmed that the Fireflies are the ones Ellie swears vengeance on for attacking her and Joel's community (most likely to get Ellie back and make the cure) and The developers noting the the theme of the Last of US ll will be hate. It is possible Ellie will find out about Marlene's death and Joel's role in killing her and considering Ellie antagonistic attitude towards Joel in the last game it is quite possible that she might kill Joel himself.
