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* FridgeHorror: Jordan and Lincoln eventually escape their pursuers and live happily ever after... [[spoiler: meanwhile Jordan's real-life double had a young daughter that is now an orphan. "Mommy, when are you coming home?"]]
* It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
* It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
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*FridgeHorror: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
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* Jordan and Lincoln eventually escape their pursuers and live happily everafter... [[spoiler: meanwhile after. [[spoiler:Meanwhile, Jordan's real-life double had a young daughter that is now an orphan. "Mommy, when are you coming home?"]]
* It's also worth noting that[[spoiler: Sarah [[spoiler:Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the organs. The company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]..."'']]
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* Jordan and Lincoln eventually escape their pursuers and live happily ever
* It's also worth noting that
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
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** The clones are *told* they're in a sealed environment, but it isn't actually. Hence [[spoiler: the moth getting in]]. We don't see any sick clones, but their diet and health is closely monitored.
* FridgeHorror: The amount of people who almost certainly died in this movie, clone or otherwise, is truly staggering. The amount of collateral damage alone is going to break dozens of families.
* FridgeHorror: The amount of people who almost certainly died in this movie, clone or otherwise, is truly staggering. The amount of collateral damage alone is going to break dozens of families.
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** The clones are *told* ''told'' they're in a sealed environment, but it isn't actually. Hence [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the moth getting in]]. We don't see any sick clones, but their diet and health is closely monitored.
*FridgeHorror: The amount of people who almost certainly died in this movie, clone or otherwise, is truly staggering. The amount of collateral damage alone is going to break dozens of families.
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The clones are not in a sealed environment.
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** The clones are *told* they're in a sealed environment, but it isn't actually. Hence [[spoiler: the moth getting in]]. We don't see any sick clones, but their diet and health is closely monitored.
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* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}}: Yes, those three- and four-year-olds just [[spoiler: had a gratuitous sex scene.]]
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** Maybe it was GeneticMemory of Sarah Jordan?
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** Doesn't make it ''that'' much better, but it's reasonable to assume that a well-known, wealthy movie star would have had ''some'' way set up to take care of her daughter if something happened to her--a husband or boyfriend, if nothing else, since the kid had to come from ''somewhere''. She had the clone as an insurance policy on herself, after all, so she's got some sense of foresight.
** Michael Bay himself notes in the commentary that the children have a father. So despite the trauma of losing their mother, it's safe to say they're fine at the end of the movie.
** It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
** Michael Bay himself notes in the commentary that the children have a father. So despite the trauma of losing their mother, it's safe to say they're fine at the end of the movie.
** It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
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** Michael Bay himself notes in the commentary that the children have a father. So despite the trauma of losing their mother, it's safe to say they're fine at the end of the movie.
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** Fortunately for us all, a few plot points sprinkled through the movie do justify the claim that EmotionalMaturityIsPhysicalMaturity here. Even if their happy (and sexless) childhoods, adolescences, and early adulthoods are all fake, those programmed and implanted years of experience can still serve as a foundation for their both being emotionally mature enough to bear the consequences and implications of what they were doing.
** It's hilarious how age of consent idea is so ingrained in people, that they focus on the number and not on the logic.
** It's hilarious how age of consent idea is so ingrained in people, that they focus on the number and not on the logic.
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** Probably their keepers made sure to vaccinate all the clones against common illnesses, as some of them would be providing a source of bone marrow or lymphoid tissues to their "sponsors". The policy-holders wouldn't settle for donor tissues that would be vulnerable to such ailments.
** We ARE talking about a project done by a medical megacorp, so that's covered by default. If the "products" needed to have a healthy mindset and a short life experience to guarantee the function of the extracted organs (as explained in the own movie), this concern falls within the range as well.
** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...
** We ARE talking about a project done by a medical megacorp, so that's covered by default. If the "products" needed to have a healthy mindset and a short life experience to guarantee the function of the extracted organs (as explained in the own movie), this concern falls within the range as well.
** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...
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** It's hilarious how age of consent idea is so ingrained in people, that they focus on the number and not on the logic.
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** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...
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** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...tubes...
* FridgeHorror: The amount of people who almost certainly died in this movie, clone or otherwise, is truly staggering. The amount of collateral damage alone is going to break dozens of families.
* FridgeHorror: The amount of people who almost certainly died in this movie, clone or otherwise, is truly staggering. The amount of collateral damage alone is going to break dozens of families.
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** Michael Bay himself notes in the commentary that the children have a father. So despite the trauma of losing their mother, it's safe to say they're fine at the end of the movie.
** It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
** It's also worth noting that [[spoiler: Sarah Jordan's condition is described as basically unsaveable even with Jordan Two Delta's organs, the company just wants to fulfill their contractual obligations so they don't get sued. ''"That's the luxury our clients pay for."'']]
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He means the fake memories and experiences, not the memory echoes of Lincoln
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*** Well according to the movie memories didn't happen in clones until Echo generation and she's a Delta.
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*** Well according to the movie memories didn't happen in clones until Echo generation and she's a Delta.
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** Probably their keepers made sure to vaccinate all the clones against common illnesses, as some of them would be providing a source of bone marrow or lymphoid tissues to their "sponsors". The policy-holders wouldn't settle for donor tissues that would be vulnerable to such ailments.
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** Probably their keepers made sure to vaccinate all the clones against common illnesses, as some of them would be providing a source of bone marrow or lymphoid tissues to their "sponsors". The policy-holders wouldn't settle for donor tissues that would be vulnerable to such ailments.ailments.
** We ARE talking about a project done by a medical megacorp, so that's covered by default. If the "products" needed to have a healthy mindset and a short life experience to guarantee the function of the extracted organs (as explained in the own movie), this concern falls within the range as well.
** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...
** We ARE talking about a project done by a medical megacorp, so that's covered by default. If the "products" needed to have a healthy mindset and a short life experience to guarantee the function of the extracted organs (as explained in the own movie), this concern falls within the range as well.
** And now you realize what they were injecting in the tubes...
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** Maybe it was GeneticMemory of Sarah Jordan?
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* The clones were all raised in a sealed environment, right? So wouldn't they have rubbish immune systems, meaning that [[InferredHolocaust most of them will get seriously sick or die]] from colds or other 'harmless' diseases in the next few days?
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* The clones were all raised in a sealed environment, right? So wouldn't they have rubbish immune systems, meaning that [[InferredHolocaust most of them will get seriously sick or die]] from colds or other 'harmless' diseases in the next few days?days?
** Probably their keepers made sure to vaccinate all the clones against common illnesses, as some of them would be providing a source of bone marrow or lymphoid tissues to their "sponsors". The policy-holders wouldn't settle for donor tissues that would be vulnerable to such ailments.
** Probably their keepers made sure to vaccinate all the clones against common illnesses, as some of them would be providing a source of bone marrow or lymphoid tissues to their "sponsors". The policy-holders wouldn't settle for donor tissues that would be vulnerable to such ailments.
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* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
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* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...connection]]...
* The clones were all raised in a sealed environment, right? So wouldn't they have rubbish immune systems, meaning that [[InferredHolocaust most of them will get seriously sick or die]] from colds or other 'harmless' diseases in the next few days?
* The clones were all raised in a sealed environment, right? So wouldn't they have rubbish immune systems, meaning that [[InferredHolocaust most of them will get seriously sick or die]] from colds or other 'harmless' diseases in the next few days?
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** Fortunately for us all, a few plot points sprinkled through the movie do justify the claim that EmotionalMaturityIsPhysicalMaturity here. Even if their happy (and sexless) childhoods, adolescences, and early adulthoods are all fake, those programmed and implanted years of experience can still serve as a foundation for their both being emotionally mature enough to bear the consequences and implications of what they were doing.
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* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}}: Yes, those three- and four-year-olds just [[spoiler: had a gratuitous sex scene.]]
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* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}}: Yes, those three- and four-year-olds just [[spoiler: had a gratuitous sex scene.]]]]
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...
* FridgeBrilliance: How did Jordan figure out how sex works on her own? Well, Tom Lincoln did mention he was quite the philanderer, and she was left alone in his house for probably an hour or two at least. Randy old Lincoln may have had some [[PornStash private pictures of himself with his girlfriends]], and almost certainly had a [[TheInternetIsForPorn computer and internet connection]]...