History Fridge / TheGiver

9th Sep '16 10:01:32 PM Dimentia44
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* The Community's insistence that Birthmother is a laid-back job with "little honor" comes off as fairly ridiculous to anyone familiar with how painful and inconviencing it feels to carry a child for 9 months and then give birth... especially considering that Birthmothers will experience neither the joys of sex nor motherhood that normally makes all that hardship worthwhile. However, this is indirectly explained later when it is revealed that The Community members have such effective medications that true pain is a foreign concept to them. Pregnancy really would be a breeze if you had the option of getting drugged up on fancy future pain medication the entire time.
5th Sep '16 8:37:34 PM trixus
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** Probably the same way Fiona has red hair, they are just unhappy about it but hey color is gone and facial features will change with the birth regulation. Sameness did not came out of tyranny but necessity in the book.


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** A few near apocalypses can break your faith same thing for different racial group, remember that the sameness was brought because people were ''that'' desperate, chances are there is 300 people left in the world before the sameness was even considered.
23rd Feb '16 4:41:11 PM OrangenChan
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** Well... that's exactly why the Giver stayed behind at the end. Presumably, the reasoning behind him thinking he could help them deal with the memories is because he knew about even worse things, so he'd be able to help them adjust more gradually. On the other hand, there was apparently chaos when [[spoiler: Rosemary]] was released, when she'd been given mostly ''good'' memories, so it's still going to take a lot longer than Jonas and the Giver thought it would.
7th Feb '16 7:23:40 PM Godzillawolf
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** The movie, when the memories are returned, makes this much clearer: Jonas' father had ''no idea'' what he was doing was wrong until the memories returned, and didn't take it well.
17th Jan '16 11:46:01 AM nombretomado
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** I almost hate suggesting this, but: cattle prod to the anus. Well, someone did it in LawAndOrderSVU to get sperm!

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** I almost hate suggesting this, but: cattle prod to the anus. Well, someone did it in LawAndOrderSVU ''Series/LawAndOrderSpecialVictimsUnit'' to get sperm!
5th Jan '16 11:17:17 AM RadiatedRonin
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** Another aspect to consider is that modern society has more than enough candidates for flight training, and can be choosy. The birthrate in the Community is strictly regulated, so any pilot has to come from that population. To add on the point above, the pilots are not allowed to fly beyond the border of the Community. Any danger or obstacle to a drone has been removed long before now, so really the pilots are now just flying routes that have been flown for who knows how long. You don't need color vision to confirm what has been seen literally thousands of times.
23rd Dec '14 11:37:21 AM washington213
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* While racial difference can be waved away with segregation, what about religions? People don't typically just give up their religions when you ask them to, and many of them would've had to be killed to give it up. Entire families. It would take a lot of atrocities to snuff out any and all traces of every religion in the world.
25th Nov '14 8:05:17 AM dante8
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* When the memories return at the end of the book, people are going to be severely depressed and angry, maybe even suicidal or homicidal, when they realize the significance of what they've participated in. This includes Jonas's father (with the releases), Jonas's mother (probably ordered people to be released as part of her justice job, and probably sometimes for small transgressions since it's third strike you're out), Fiona (released old people), and even Asher (for organizing games that mimicked war.) Plus think of all the people who will suddenly realize what happened to their family members and friends who didn't measure up in some way, or to that person they told on for stealing glue or staying out late or something.
28th Oct '14 1:39:07 AM thecalcographer
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**** I always thought that it was just supposed to be far enough into the future that everyone was mixed, meaning there were no longer distinct races. (Seems to be averted by the film, though)
15th Sep '14 9:29:40 PM Fireblood
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** It is suggested on the [[Headscratchers/TheGiver Headscratchers page]] that maybe those assigned to be Pilots are given color vision and they are also given the rule that they allowed to lie in their folder.

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** It is suggested on the [[Headscratchers/TheGiver Headscratchers page]] that maybe those assigned to be Pilots are given color vision and they are also given the rule that they are allowed to lie in their folder.



** Something This trouper picked out about the Birthmothers that I'm not sure if it's Fridge Horror or not: In the Community, you get your job at age 12. You have a short training period and then can give birth for three years before you are sent to do hard labor for the rest of your working life. 12, 13 and 14-year-olds are giving birth!!

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** Something This trouper troper picked out about the Birthmothers that I'm not sure if it's Fridge Horror or not: In the Community, you get your job at age 12. You have a short training period and then can give birth for three years before you are sent to do hard labor for the rest of your working life. 12, 13 and 14-year-olds are giving birth!!
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