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9th Dec '17 12:17:28 PM Ylzbq
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** [[PreviousPlayerCharacterCameo Sheogorath]] being the exception to this exception.
25th Nov '17 8:18:48 AM ShinyManaphy
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** Defeating Alduin requires Dragonrend. Miraak with Dragonrend is a terrifying thought on its own, but then remember that Miraak can't subver Hermaeus Mora in the end. Hermaeus Mora would probably be ''very'' interested in a power like Dragonrend...
25th Nov '17 8:10:45 AM ShinyManaphy
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** Alternatively, pushing this into FridgeBrilliance, "taking an arrow to the knee" has been suggested to be a metaphor for "getting married". Consider this: you're an adventurer, travelling Skyrim, defeating bandits, making coin where you can find it, and so on. Then you meet the love of your life and get married. In a happy marriage, you want to spend time with your spouse, and if they're not also an adventurer-type then the logical thing to do is to settle down somewhere with them and quit adventuring. You still need a job, and you've got all of this experience fighting. Becoming a guard is a logical career move in this situation, as it lets you use your existing skills, enjoy some of the action you used to see, and go home to your spouse and kids at the end of the day.
25th Nov '17 7:57:46 AM ShinyManaphy
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** Dragons are aspects of Akatosh, and that includes the Dragonborn. Akatosh is the god of ''time''. It's possible that the Book of Fate is simply ''incapable'' of reading a Dragonborn's future, because their soul is part of time itself.
12th Nov '17 7:35:56 PM Zaptech
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** Also, Draugr do, in the lore, sometimes leave their barrows to patrol the areas immediately outside to collect things like food, fuel, and other items, as part of their process of serving the priests who once lived there. It's entirely possible that they found an adventurer or merchant near the barrow, killed them, looted the body, and brought their spoils back as an offering to the priest or leader whose tomb they were guarding.
12th Nov '17 6:11:28 PM Zaptech
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** But the notes you find on assassins' corpses say "someone has performed the Black Sacrament."
*** This can be explained by the assassins simply picking up rumors of someone performing the sacrament. Aventus' attempts to contact the Brotherhood hit the rumor mill pretty early in the game. Presumably this is also how Astrid finds you after you steal the Brotherhood's kill.
*** Yep. Maven Black-Briar performed the Black Sacrament in secret behind a locked door in her basement. Thus no one knew she had done it. You can find a note in the room complaining that she'd performed the sacrament weeks earlier, and it was unprofessional that no one had yet shown up.
*** Astrid will tell you this after Cicero arrives, if you talk to her about it.
*** That's how I understood it as well. Astrid basically tells you that they get their hits through word-of-mouth and secondhand contact but keep people believing that it was their magical ceremony that summoned them. Then Cicero shows up with the real Night Mother, Astrid gets all bent out of shape, and things go totally wonky from here.
*** Back to first question 'why didn't Dark Brotherhood meet Aventus Aretino'. They know from gossips who performed Dark Sacrament, they also know the deed by rumors and who did it. They just don't have time to go to him and 'steal' the deed by himself/herself/whatever also they were like in the middle of jobs that more important and profitable and ignoring the ritual of an orphan kid for time being.
12th Nov '17 6:02:57 PM Zaptech
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** The ''Cutting Room Floor'' GameMod restored a small, DummiedOut note to the small bandit cave just north of Whiterun which mentions that the bandits in question are skooma smugglers and that they've found a source of "real" skooma and not the "watered-down" stuff that the Khajiit caravans have been bringing them.
12th Nov '17 4:19:17 PM Zaptech
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** More in tune with the blade's ability, you were channeling the betrayal of Astrid's trust into the blade. The blade feeds on how Astrid compromised the Dark Brotherhood by allowing a disloyal member into a chance at initiation without preparing for the possibility of reprisal.
*** Not necessarily. Astrid never divulges the location or password to the Falkreath Sanctuary if you kill her; you have to go to Commander Maro, who conveniently found out the pertinent information.
** Alternatively, if becoming the Listener was a role the Dragonborn was ''meant'' to assume, then they did, in effect, betray their potential comrades by never assuming their rightful position.
** It could also be that turning on Astrid counts as a betrayal because she brought you to the shack to repay what she considered a debt (stealing a kill), and turning on her violated what was, from her perspective, a binding agreement. The subsequent deaths are all extensions of that betrayal, thus strengthening the blade.
12th Nov '17 4:01:31 PM Zaptech
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** Although that one only works if you have the slightest sympathy for the Dark Brotherhood. Some of us followed up on these random fights by tracking down this freaky little family and putting each and every one of them down like the mad dogs they are.
12th Nov '17 3:58:23 PM Zaptech
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*** Or, third option, not every draugr has anything to do with dragons, ancient or not. ''Skyrim'' wasn't the first game in the series to feature draugr, and ''Bloodmoon'' never hinted at a dragon-connection (the Skaal instead had an entirely different origin-story), but it did feature a mage that had deliberately turned himself into a draugr (while keeping his mind) to keep Daedra from overrunning the place, so it seems that while the Dragon Cult is one vector for draugrs to arise, it isn't the ''only'' one. And, after all, we know Olaf's spirit wasn't consumed when we confronted the Draugr-Olaf in Dead Men's Respite... [[spoiler: His soul can be found in Shor's Hall in Sovngarde, so odds are his Draugr-self was a result of his corpse being reanimated as a zombie.]]
** Additional FridgeHorror for the tombs, barrows, and catacombs: Most players pick up the convenient gold coins from the burial urns. '''Specifically''' ''burial'' urns. From an in-universe perspective, the Dragonborn has been sifting his or her hands through possibly still-greasy and rancid ashes for the chance at a couple of Septims.

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*** ** Or, third option, not every draugr has anything to do with dragons, ancient or not. ''Skyrim'' wasn't the first game in the series to feature draugr, and ''Bloodmoon'' never hinted at a dragon-connection (the Skaal instead had an entirely different origin-story), but it did feature a mage that had deliberately turned himself into a draugr (while keeping his mind) to keep Daedra from overrunning the place, so it seems that while the Dragon Cult is one vector for draugrs to arise, it isn't the ''only'' one. And, after all, we know Olaf's spirit wasn't consumed when we confronted the Draugr-Olaf in Dead Men's Respite... [[spoiler: His soul can be found in Shor's Hall in Sovngarde, so odds are his Draugr-self was a result of his corpse being reanimated as a zombie.]]
** What happens to Wyndelious in the barrow outside of Ivarstead indicates that the ancient Nord barrows have some kind of metnal effect on those who spend too much time in them, slowly driving them to protect and defend the barrow over time. It is entirely possible that many of the draugr you fight aren't just ancient Nords but also the corpses of adventurers who fell exploring the ruins and were mummified by the Dragur inside and then animated by whatever dark necromantic magics influence the old ruins.
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Additional FridgeHorror for the tombs, barrows, and catacombs: Most players pick up the convenient gold coins from the burial urns. '''Specifically''' ''burial'' urns. From an in-universe perspective, the Dragonborn has been sifting his or her hands through possibly still-greasy and rancid ashes for the chance at a couple of Septims.
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