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* Speaking of potential implications of sexual abuse, what exactly was the Lady of the Green Kirtle doing to poor Prince Rilian over the ''six years'' after she bewitched him into marrying her? Taking that into account, his imprisonment might've been disturbingly reminiscent of what Kilgrave did to Series/{{Jessica Jones|2015}}.
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* Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this an odd choice. It makes a person wonder if Lewis was aware of where dogs actually came from but was using artistic license, or if he actually believed god created them wholecloth in the Garden of Eden.

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* Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this an odd choice. It makes a person wonder if Lewis was aware of where dogs actually came from but was using artistic license, or if he actually believed god created them wholecloth whole cloth in the Garden of Eden.



** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point:[[spoiler: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify at least seven out of those eight, and she probably came across Eustace's corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???]]

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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point:[[spoiler: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory Digory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify at least seven out of those eight, and she probably came across Eustace's corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???]]



* Aslan's tendency to bring ''young children'' into Narnia and turn them all into ''[[ChildSoldiers professional killers]]'', something even the White Witch [[EvenEvilHasStandards drew the line at!]] [[note]](Her interactions with Diggory, Polly and later Edmund basically just involve her manipulating them)[[/note]]. Edmund in particular demonstrates several signs of being a ShellShockedVeteran and he's barely in his teens!

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* Aslan's tendency to bring ''young children'' into Narnia and turn them all into ''[[ChildSoldiers professional killers]]'', something even the White Witch [[EvenEvilHasStandards drew the line at!]] [[note]](Her interactions with Diggory, Digory, Polly and later Edmund basically just involve her manipulating them)[[/note]]. Edmund in particular demonstrates several signs of being a ShellShockedVeteran and he's barely in his teens!



** [[FridgeBrilliance On the other hand, if she KNEW that then her attitude towards Narnia is put in another light]]. She knows nobody in her family is going back and she knows they cant bring up the subject around the wrong people. She doesn't necessarily know Diggory and Polly have been to Narnia before because she never talks about it with them. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It's far from unlikely she was trying to get them to move on.]]

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** [[FridgeBrilliance On the other hand, if she KNEW that then her attitude towards Narnia is put in another light]]. She knows nobody in her family is going back and she knows they cant bring up the subject around the wrong people. She doesn't necessarily know Diggory Digory and Polly have been to Narnia before because she never talks about it with them. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It's far from unlikely she was trying to get them to move on.]]



* All Jadis had to do was use the dreadful word on Diggory and Polly to escape. Thankfully she decides enslaving their world is the better option.

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\n* Why exactly it would be a FateWorseThanDeath for Shasta to be a slave of the strange Tarkaan.

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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of [=WW2=](especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.

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** which Which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of [=WW2=](especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.years.
** [[FridgeBrilliance On the other hand, if she KNEW that then her attitude towards Narnia is put in another light]]. She knows nobody in her family is going back and she knows they cant bring up the subject around the wrong people. She doesn't necessarily know Diggory and Polly have been to Narnia before because she never talks about it with them. [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation It's far from unlikely she was trying to get them to move on.]]





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\n* All Jadis had to do was use the dreadful word on Diggory and Polly to escape. Thankfully she decides enslaving their world is the better option.
** She fully believed she could use her magic in other worlds, what would have happened if she was right?
** And then there's the warning on the bell, she warned people against freeing her. [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone Think about that for a moment.]]

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** Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this an odd choice.

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** * Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this an odd choice.
choice. It makes a person wonder if Lewis was aware of where dogs actually came from but was using artistic license, or if he actually believed god created them wholecloth in the Garden of Eden.
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** Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this a odd choice.

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** Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this a an odd choice.
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** Aslan created dogs out of the ground with the other animals in ''Literature/TheMagiciansNephew,'' and it's never clarified if they still have any relation to wolves or if they are considered unrelated separate species. One of the dogs created is a bulldog, which are known to have health problems caused by their flat faces and are highly unsuited to life in the wild, making this a odd choice.
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** Maybe they intended to rule in his name... or just ignore his claim, the way Miraz ignored Caspian's claim.


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* The Pevensies being told they're too old to return to Narnia seems a bit odd, since Peter and Susan are only 14 and 13 respectively after their final visit, and Edmund and Lucy are 12 and 10, whereas Eustace and Jill were able to enter Narnia again in ''Literature/TheLastBattle'' at the ages of 16. However, Narnia is probably taking into account the extra fifteen years the Pevensies spent there in addition to their lives on Earth.
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This is not fridge horror, since the narrative makes it abundantly clear what the statues really are


* The statues in the White Witch's fortress.

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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of [=WW2=]
(especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.

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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of [=WW2=]
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[=WW2=](especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.
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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of WW2 (especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.

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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of WW2 [=WW2=]
(especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.
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* When Edmund meets the White Witch, he's very enthusiastic about getting some Turkish Delight from her. Remember that back in England, it's WorldWarII, so everything is rationed and luxury foodstuffs are in short supply. The Pevensies probably haven't had any of their favourite sweets for ages.

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* When Edmund meets the White Witch, he's very enthusiastic about getting some Turkish Delight from her. Remember that back in England, it's WorldWarII, UsefulNotes/WorldWarII, so everything is rationed and luxury foodstuffs are in short supply. The Pevensies probably haven't had any of their favourite sweets for ages.
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** Not to mention how all their ''Narnian friends'' must've been devastated by their disappearance, with neither explanation nor warning. From the state of Cair Paravel when the Pevensies return, the castle may well have been abandoned immediately after the four of them vanished, with no one they left behind able to bear to remain there without their beloved Kings and Queens.
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** Charn's sun being dim and red may have been a ShoutOut to Creator/HGWells's ''Literature/TheTimeMachine''.
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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point:[[spoiler: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify everyone except Eustace, and she probably came across his corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???]]

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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point:[[spoiler: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify everyone except Eustace, at least seven out of those eight, and she probably came across his Eustace's corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???]]
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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify everyone except Eustace, and she probably came across his corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???

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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point: point:[[spoiler: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify everyone except Eustace, and she probably came across his corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???first???]]
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** while Neil Gaiman's "The Problem of Susan" isn't canon, it does bring up an excellent ''and unavoidable'' point: dozens of people must have died in that train crash. Susan was related to six of them, and knew at least another two quite well (and Diggory and Polly are never mentioned to have any living relatives). Susan would have '''had''' to identify everyone except Eustace, and she probably came across his corpse at some point as well, especially if her Aunt and Uncle weren't anywhere nearby and she therefore had to identify him too... and ''how many other'' horrifically dead people did she have to look at first???
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** which leads to some interesting ideas about Susan's disbelief in Narnia, doesn't it? Especially when you realise that shortly after ''Prince Caspian'' she was whisked away from everyone else who she could safely talk to, and considering the Naval battles of WW2 (especially once the US joined the war, which seems to be approximately when ''Prince Caspian'' takes place, at least from the movie) she was probably stuck there for quite some time... possibly even years.
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**Just like Jesus forced to flee from Herod? That in itself is a Fridge brilliance.
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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. This was probably not intentional or realized by the author, but it is a explanation beyond "they're just evil."

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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. This was probably not intentional or realized by the author, but it is a explanation beyond [[ForTheEvulz "they're just evil."
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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. This was probably not intentional or realized by the author, but is a explanation beyond "they're just evil."

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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. This was probably not intentional or realized by the author, but it is a explanation beyond "they're just evil."
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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. Probably not intentional or realized by the author, but a explanation beyond "they're just evil."

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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. Probably This was probably not intentional or realized by the author, but is a explanation beyond "they're just evil."
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* Why are the wolves so loyal to the White Witch? Well, aside from being evil, they like her never ending winter because winter is a good time for real wolves unlike most other animals. The shortage of food weakens the prey, and snow slows the prey down and weakens it further, so wolves eat better in winter compared to any other time of the year. Probably not intentional or realized by the author, but a explanation beyond "they're just evil."
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* When Edmund meets the White Witch, he's very enthusiastic about getting some Turkish Delight from her. Remember that back in England, it's WorldWarII, so everything is rationed and luxury foodstuffs are in short supply. The Pevensies probably haven't had any of their favourite sweets for ages.
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What specifically in this long ramble is the Fridge Horror?


* Oh god oh god oh god I just realized That Narnia scene where they had all the animals lined up for battle and they charged each other. When I was little I thought that was the COOLEST thing. But I watch it now and I get panicky like that's animal slaughter. But the animals have been MANIPULATED by humans to fight voluntarily. I think I'm going to be sick. It's like a Roman Colosseum on a massive scale. A scale of war. NO. How does anyone come up with a universe like that. Jesus. 'cause like Animals don't go to war, right? Or does language or higher sentience somehow CAUSE WAR? Ok, back up a second. We're busy trying to save lions and tigers here. They're in danger of disappearing. And we're going to go to a movie and watch them tear each other apart. And root for it? And, do tigers have a shot at the throne, or do humans command them always, because that's how bloodlines work? Who decided that? Like, can't like the tiger say screw you and that human witch I'll do what I want, I can get along with other animals and only kill what I need to eat. You disgust me. Have fun cleaning up bloody bodies. Y'all can't just sit down and talk about why this is even necessary? Like, seriously? Does Aslan come down and give public lectures to the bears about why humans are culturally superior? Ethnocentrism or something? And you shouldn't eat them like you'd eat a monkey or a pig. Humans descend like rich white people to Africa, thinking they can 'save' them, when they can't even find the country/city they're going to on a map. Or know anything at all about the local culture, the roots of the problems, or in this case, even how magic WORKS. And suddenly they're fit to be rulers?? Can a lion declare, 'I'm made in the image of God? Hahaha, no, screw you, I'm an atheist. Nobody's seen that guy for ages.' 'You're some prophecy? Why should I believe you? Do you know how many cubs I lose while I was waiting?' If sapience gives us the "edge" over other animals, and in this world a lion has our intelligence AND their heft and claw, why in the HECK would they submit to our law? Our own policeman can't even keep OUR criminals in line. So, in a world where each lion is an individual and has free will . . . So, what, lions are literally more noble because they see this newcomer, because they watch this little human and think, nah, I think I'll let him live. And I'll also let him dictate my Life and Death. Well, that's my baptism by fire, I suppose. Or, uh, Fridge Horror worthy of the Witch's icy blast?
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* At the beginning of ''Literature/TheSilverChair'', Caspian is going to find Aslan and ask him what to do about his successor, given that his son and heir has been missing for years. When Jill meets Aslan for the first time, he tells he has been calling her and Eustace since before they called to him, and he then gives her the mission of finding Prince Rilian. Aslan was planning the answer before Caspian had even asked the question![[note]]Given that Aslan is meant to represent Jesus, Lewis may have intended this realization.[[/note]]
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** [[spoiler:It would make it to horror if Susan had been killed and damned, or if her bereavement were the end of her story. But as Lewis notes elsewhere, "Pain insists upon being attended to. God whispers to us in our pleasures, speaks in our consciences, but shouts in our pains. It is his megaphone to rouse a deaf world." God has just done something major that brings some of those He loves (like Lucy) into bliss, and apparently in Lewis's view stands the best chance of getting Susan's attention and bringing her, too, to Paradise.]]

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