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5th Sep '12 7:07:31 PM Nocturna

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A Worldwide Punomenon cleanup

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24th Jun '12 7:08:02 AM SouthernGaelic

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* IIRC, pretty much the second scene marking Juan’s return from Spain shows him at the toilet attempting to urinate and having a good deal of difficulty with it (we soon after learn he’s contracted syphilis). But the bathroom (or whatever the appropriate term for it might be) seemed awfully shabby to me; it was small, dark, the wallpaper looked frayed and it generally begged the question of why a son of the Pope was given such half-assed luxuries. Then it occurred to me - this is taking place roughly sometime near the end of the 15th century. While his lavatory may look like [[AWorldwidePunomenon shit]] to a modern audience, the fact he has one ''at all'' as opposed to being forced to use an outhouse or something else equally common and squalid says enough about his status itself. In addition, he’s also been away for an undetermined length of time and who knows if anyone’s been made to keep the place tidy or what their own idea of “tidy” is.

* Then there's Cesare's [[spoiler: last words]] to him: "We are Borgias...we never forgive."  Just earlier, Juan had already said that he'd forgiven Cesare of his 'insult.'  When you take into account Juan's deep-seated insecurities about his parentage, that line could very well be Cesare [[spoiler: sticking the knife in metaphorically as well as physically]].

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