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28th Apr '16 5:37:50 AM cheesecakeandchill
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* In the season 6 episode, "The Man Who Would Be King", Crowley tells [[spoiler: Castiel]] that he doesn't underestimate the Winchesters, which is why he hasn't been beaten/killed by them yet. Then in the season 8 finale, he was successfully captured by them to be used for [[spoiler: the Third Trial]]. What led to this? He started to underestimate the Winchesters.
14th Apr '16 11:21:35 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Season 5 reveals that God and the archangels were aware of how the Apocalypse would begin and end ever since God created the universe, and Season 6 implies that there was a "script" that everybody was supposed to follow. It is meant to frame the story of the Winchesters and Team Free Will, but when you consider that this would mean that God and the archangels ''knew from the beginning'' what would happen, it gets a little unsettling; they would all have known ''before God even created humans'' that Lucifer would abhor humanity and defy God's command to bow to them, that he would go to Michael and all their other angel brethren for support and they would all reject him, that he would take some humans and torture them into inhuman monsters, that Michael would be commanded by God to lock Lucifer away in the darkest pit of Hell for thousands of years, and that Lucifer would be unleashed with the Apocalypse just for Michael to kill him and bring Paradise. God would have known all this, and so would Raphael, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer, even before any of them did anything, and all the archangels were 100% convinced that none of it could be averted. Yeah, that's... a [[{{Understatement}} little]] unsettling. And what may be the worst part? Team Free Will proved that "Destiny" is more a suggestion than anything else! Lucifer [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have averted everything]] by not giving in to his hatred and to the idea of Destiny, but he didn't.[[note]]Well, he did start trying to rebel against the Grand Plan, but too late: when faced with the reality of his death at the hands of Michael, he did try to buck Destiny by trying to convince Michael to not fight him, and even when Michael refused -- because ''he'' still fully believed in Destiny -- Lucifer remained determined to fight tooth-and-nail for his life.[[/note]]

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* Season 5 reveals that God and the archangels were aware of how the Apocalypse would begin and end ever since God created the universe, and Season 6 implies that there was a "script" that everybody was supposed to follow. It is meant to frame the story of the Winchesters and Team Free Will, but when you consider that this would mean that God and the archangels ''knew from the beginning'' what would happen, it gets a little unsettling; they would all have known ''before God even created humans'' that Lucifer would abhor humanity and defy God's command to bow to them, that he would go to Michael and all their other angel brethren for support and they would all reject him, that he would take some humans and torture them into inhuman monsters, that Michael would be commanded by God to lock Lucifer away in the darkest pit of Hell for thousands of years, and that Lucifer would be unleashed with the Apocalypse just for Michael to kill him and bring Paradise. God would have known all this, and so would Raphael, Gabriel, Michael, and Lucifer, even before any of them did anything, and all the archangels were 100% convinced that none of it could be averted. Yeah, that's... a [[{{Understatement}} little]] unsettling. And what may be the worst part? Team Free Will proved that "Destiny" is more a suggestion than anything else! Lucifer [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could have averted everything]] everything by not giving in to his hatred and to the idea of Destiny, but he didn't.[[note]]Well, he did start trying to rebel against the Grand Plan, but too late: when faced with the reality of his death at the hands of Michael, he did try to buck Destiny by trying to convince Michael to not fight him, and even when Michael refused -- because ''he'' still fully believed in Destiny -- Lucifer remained determined to fight tooth-and-nail for his life.[[/note]]
20th Feb '16 7:23:54 AM ading
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** [[spoiler:That was ''a'' cage made by Rowena to hold Lucifer temporarily, not ''the'' Cage. However, if you believe Lucifer, Michael has had a complete mental breakdown from his time with Lucifer in the Cage.]]
20th Feb '16 7:21:46 AM ading
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* Why was Sam such a jackass after [[spoiler:losing his soul]]? It didn't really make sense that he would act the way he did: after all, even in S4, [[spoiler:when he was high off demon blood]], he still acted recognizably like Sam. But in "Swan Song", [[spoiler:he drank GALLONS of demon blood, which Castiel once told Dean would change Sam into a monster]]! Of course he was a jackass, he was operating solely on [[spoiler:demon-blood-fuel]]! Oh, Sam. Oh, Supernatural.
** Except like Dean, his body was pulled out of Hell (or rather the Cage, good work on [[spoiler: Castiel]] for pulling that off) and rebuilt on Earth. You'd figure he'd have cleaned all that crap out of his system.
22nd Jan '16 7:59:58 PM ExarchofSechrima
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* The existence of Purgatory, and the fact that every monster without fail arrives there when they die. People like Madison who were turned into monsters against their will and then mercy killed by the brothers, instead of going to heaven, are immediately plopped down into a monochrome wasteland where they have to fight for their very survival. Not only do they get turned into killers against their will, they spend the rest of eternity fighting against others of their own kind just to avoid whatever it is that happens when a monster dies in purgatory.
18th Dec '15 9:58:52 AM Lightning4119
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* We got a peek inside the cage in season 11. Lucifer's the only one in there. Guess we know who won that fight.
5th Dec '15 11:46:34 AM Cameron178
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* The Darkness being interested in Dean makes sense once it's revealed that like him, [[spoiler: she also has family issues.]]
12th Nov '15 7:30:06 PM Lightning4119
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*** Recent episodes - Season 11 - have acknowledged this, although when it's come up, the meatsuits in question were already too damaged to survive (one had a stab wound, the other had a gunshot wound to the upper chest). Handwave by the writers?
27th Oct '15 5:43:23 PM Kika
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* So if Death is dead then shouldn't there have been some major consequences that resulted from that? Imagine a nightmarish scenario where the worst criminals or even supernatural beings cant die because Dean killing Death disrupted the natural order that is mortality. Which begs to question why are people still dying despite that Death got killed?
** Keep in mind that Death was locked underground for years upon years by God before Lucifer freed him (and bound him by a spell so Death would obey him). People obviously still died while Death was locked away, so it made me wonder if Death had some sort of a ''remote control'' to killing people without actually having to touch them or even be in vecinity. But the Reapers seem to go on with their work just fine without Death, so... maybe, while Death was by levels stronger than the other Horsemen, like the other Horsemen, he doesn't actually has to be in a humanoid alive shape for the idea of death to, uh, exsist? I mean, just becuase the other Horsemen lost their powers [did any of them actually die?, doesn't mean that people don't get sick, hungry or that there's suddenly peace on Earth (Which there was, though)

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* So if Death is dead then shouldn't there have been some major consequences that resulted from that? Imagine a nightmarish scenario where the worst criminals or even supernatural beings cant can't die because Dean killing Death disrupted the natural order that is mortality. Which begs to question why are people still dying despite that Death got killed?
** Keep in mind that Death was locked underground for years upon years by God before Lucifer freed him (and bound him by a spell so Death would obey him). People obviously still died while Death was locked away, so it made me wonder if Death had some sort of a ''remote control'' to killing people without actually having to touch them or even be in vecinity. But the Reapers seem to go on with their work just fine without Death, so... maybe, while Death was by levels stronger than the other Horsemen, Horsemen (''way'' stronger), like the other Horsemen, he doesn't actually has to be in a humanoid alive "alive" shape for the idea of death to, uh, exsist? I mean, just becuase the other Horsemen lost their powers [did (did any of them actually die?, die?), doesn't mean that people don't get sick, hungry or that there's suddenly peace on Earth (Which (wish there was, though)though).
27th Oct '15 5:39:59 PM Kika
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** Keep in mind that Death was locked underground for years upon years by God before Lucifer freed him (and bound him by a spell so Death would obey him). People obviously still died while Death was locked away, so it made me wonder if Death had some sort of a ''remote control'' to killing people without actually having to touch them or even be in vecinity. But the Reapers seem to go on with their work just fine without Death, so... maybe, while Death was by levels stronger than the other Horsemen, like the other Horsemen, he doesn't actually has to be in a humanoid alive shape for the idea of death to, uh, exsist? I mean, just becuase the other Horsemen lost their powers [did any of them actually die?, doesn't mean that people don't get sick, hungry or that there's suddenly peace on Earth (Which there was, though)
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