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17th Jan '17 11:52:32 PM Alas_Poor_Donny
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** Death is the personification of death itself, he's not the actual cause of things dying. Technically, he is everywhere that anything is dying, all at once. If he's 'dead' at all (which actually is foreshadowed to not be the case, he's mentioned that eventually he'll get sick of the Winchesters and stop coming when they call, and stabbing him seems like a good way to provoke that), that probably just fragmented him into smaller entities... maybe fragmented him _back_ into smaller entities, as the Darkness appears to be essentially a subset of what Death was.
*** Possibly this is how Amara was locked away to begin with? Used to construct a larger, less aggressive entity with no particular motivation to re-fragment himself?
18th Dec '16 7:16:15 AM Gaby007
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* Metatron calls God a sexist jerk. Of course God is a misogynist - have you seen what kind of sister he has?
9th Dec '16 9:40:08 AM Cameron178
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* The middle of Season 12 has Lucifer ranting about having no plan that comes off as whining. However, it makes sense: he has basically lost his role as the villain. The Darkness kicked his ass twice and tortured him, his father took off after reconciling with him, he got outwitted several times by a simple witch, and hell is being ruled by Crowley. What is left for him?
6th Nov '16 12:55:37 PM shaktari
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* Episode 16, season 11, Safehouse. It took me watching the episode a few times to realize: [[spoiler: The reason why the souls of Bobby and Rufus' case were returned to their bodies, is that Sam and Dean managed to kill the soul eater in time. As Dean said the nest exists outside of space and time. Between the sigil trap Bobby and Rufus used and the sigil to kill that Sam and Dean used. It meant that every one managed to get back into their bodies before they would have died]]


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4th Nov '16 8:25:56 PM ApeAccount
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* At first, the [[spoiler: return of God]] seems like the ultimate DeusExMachina, as the writers had basically created the ultimate antagonist in Amara and then needed a sudden twist to explain how the heroes could possibly hope to defeat her if they worked together. The Hands of God appeared to be the ultimate RedHerring, serving as plot points repeatedly only to be dismissed when the final battle came. However, after re-watching "We Happy Few" it becomes clear the writers actually demonstrated that [[spoiler: God]] wasn't necessary for the fight at all and neither were Hands of God. Actually, our regular characters WERE strong enough to defeat her. [[spoiler: God]] only gave them something to rally behind. When the actual fight came, [[spoiler: God]] didn't lift a finger and our existing characters were able to bring her to her knees. [[spoiler: In fact, Lucifer was about to stab her again, delivering a presumably fatal blow, when God asked him to stop (God wanted her weakened but didn't want her to die because it would destroy reality) and that was the only reason she was able to survive their attack.]] So the writers did actually manage to show that no DeusExMachina was needed. [[spoiler: An aside from this, since Amara was powerful enough to fight God as an equal, presumably even God himself could be taken out by enough regular characters joining forces.]]
3rd Nov '16 3:11:07 PM batmany
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* The angels needing vessels becomes even more brilliant after it's given some thought. Apart from the show's budget constraints and the InUniverse explanation of "People's eyes burn out if they see an angel", there is yet another reason why an angel would need a vessel to do anything on Earth. Angels are massive. Case in point, Castiel states at one point that he's about the same size as the Chrysler Building. That's about 1,046 feet (or about 318.82 meters) tall. Even if humans could see him as he really is, he couldn't do much to aid them. His size would make him unruly, and he'd likely cause a lot of collateral damage. Likewise, him speaking would still be an issue since he'd be incredibly (if unintentionally) loud.
** There's also the fact that, if humans (apart from their true vessel) could see them without their eyes burning (or dying), angels would still have the issue of humans being terrified of them. It's already been established that Zachariah has four heads (one being a lion). But, what about the other angels? Well, according to Judeo-Christian folklore, Castiel looks like [[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/Sieben_planetarische_geister_francis_barrett_the_magus.jpg/300px-Sieben_planetarische_geister_francis_barrett_the_magus.jpg this (Though it's not clear if the man riding the dragon is Castiel or if the dragon itself is Castiel)]]. He's not exactly what most people think of when they hear the word "Angel". It's no wonder he needs a vessel while on Earth.
*** Lucifer takes this even further. According to Judeo-Christian folklore, his true form is that of a massive seven-headed dragon. How massive? Well, said folklore states that he knocks several stars out of orbit by accident and that entire rivers flow from his mouths. In other words, he makes Castiel seem like an ant in comparison. It's no wonder most other angels regard Lucifer with such fear. Even if he wasn't evil, he'd still be a major threat to them on sheer size advantage alone.
30th Oct '16 9:44:10 PM ApeAccount
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* At first it annoyed me that in "The Devil in the Details" Cas practically whispered the word "Yes" to Lucifer in order to justify neither Sam nor Dean, both of whom were shown conscious and nearby, hearing it. You would expect he would have shouted it to at least give his friends a warning that Lucifer had taken him over and avoid several episodes of Sam and Dean not knowing what was going on. Then it hit me that Cas would have expected them to see Lucifer taking him over. In fact, the only reason they didn't was the freak timing that Lucifer took him over at the very second that Rowena used her spell making it look like that was why he disappeared.
30th Oct '16 4:04:28 PM Kika
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* Season 11, Episode 10: the Devil in the details. Lucifer's words about Michael: "singing show tunes and touching himself."
Now, let's not take it at face value. We know Lucifer likes to put on a show. Michael and Lucifer used to be close brothers, like Sam and Dean. What the hell did Lucifer do to Michael to make him like this?
** And if taken at face value after all, let's assume "touching himself" actually means you-know-what. they are still brothers. What. THE HELL. Did Lucifer do to him!?

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* Season 11, Episode 10: the Devil in the details. Lucifer's words about Michael: "singing show tunes and touching himself."
" Now, let's not take it at face value. We know Lucifer likes to put on a show.show and talk big. Michael and Lucifer used to be close brothers, like Sam and Dean. What the hell did Lucifer do to Michael to make him like this?
** And if taken at face value after all, let's assume "touching himself" actually means you-know-what. they They are still brothers. What. THE HELL. Did Lucifer do to him!?
30th Oct '16 4:01:51 PM Kika
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* Season 11, Episode 10: the Devil in the details. Lucifer's words about Michael: "singing show tunes and touching himself."
Now, let's not take it at face value. We know Lucifer likes to put on a show. Michael and Lucifer used to be close brothers, like Sam and Dean. What the hell did Lucifer do to Michael to make him like this?
**And if taken at face value after all, let's assume "touching himself" actually means you-know-what. they are still brothers. What. THE HELL. Did Lucifer do to him!?
22nd Oct '16 5:34:01 PM SpocktorWho
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*** He wasn't. Pretty sure the Colt was what Bobby shot him with, and it did jack all.



** Keep in mind that Death was locked underground for years upon years by God before Lucifer freed him (and bound him by a spell so Death would obey him). People obviously still died while Death was locked away, so it made me wonder if Death had some sort of a ''remote control'' to killing people without actually having to touch them or even be in vecinity. But the Reapers seem to go on with their work just fine without Death, so... maybe, while Death was by levels stronger than the other Horsemen (''way'' stronger), like the other Horsemen, he doesn't actually has to be in a humanoid "alive" shape for the idea of death to, uh, exsist? I mean, just becuase the other Horsemen lost their powers (did any of them actually die?), doesn't mean that people don't get sick, hungry or that there's suddenly peace on Earth (wish there was, though).

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** Keep in mind that Death was locked underground for years upon years by God before Lucifer freed him (and bound him by a spell so Death would obey him). People obviously still died while Death was locked away, so it made me wonder if Death had some sort of a ''remote control'' to killing people without actually having to touch them or even be in vecinity. But the Reapers seem to go on with their work just fine without Death, so... maybe, while Death was by levels stronger than the other Horsemen (''way'' stronger), like the other Horsemen, he doesn't actually has to be in a humanoid "alive" shape for the idea of death to, uh, exsist? exist? I mean, just becuase because the other Horsemen lost their powers (did any of them actually die?), doesn't mean that people don't get sick, hungry or that there's suddenly peace on Earth (wish there was, though).
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