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23rd Aug '16 1:52:54 AM harlbior
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* At the start of the ninth season of ''Series/StargateSG1'', I was expecting Mitchell to be nothing more than a flawless O'Neill clone to try and buy our affection. It got bad when Landry talked about how Mitchell apparently had no flaws as far as he could tell. But after getting to know Mitchell, it hit me. The writers were ''reassuring'' us that Mitchell would have flaws and like Landry, we would figure them out. The very fact that they were aware of the fear of Mitchell being flawless was a great comfort to me. -- Green Dragon
* It only just occurred to me that in the fan favorite, groundhog day-inspired episode "Window of Opportunity", every time time resets O'Neill finds himself in the cafeteria eating a bowl of froot loops. Froot LOOPS! -- {{Tropers/NoSoup4Me}}
* And hey, I can have two FridgeBrilliance moments at once. In ''Continuum'', Ba'al goes back in time and alters history so that he becomes lord over all the Goa'uld system lords. At first this just seemed to me to be an easy way to bring back some of the dead villains for a cameo in the film, especially Yu and Apophis, but then I realized which of the Goa'uld Ba'al uses as his default lieutenant -- Cronos. Basically, Ba'al built himself a time machine and then used it to make the self-proclaimed god of time his bitch! -- {{Tropers/NoSoup4Me}}
** Sorry to be a wet blanket, but to be accurate, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus Cronos]] (in mythology) was the former lord of the universe (the Titan equivalent of Zeus, essentially) before his sons Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon overthrew him - no relation (surprisingly, for ancient mythology) to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos Chronos/Chronus]], the personification of time.
** Given the proliferation of both spellings for an intended meaning of "time," this is more likely to be writers not knowing that there's a difference between "c" and "ch" as far as Ancient Greek is concerned.
** Ancient Greek doesn't have a "C". It has a "K" (kappa) and a "Ch" (chi).
* In Episode 6.19: "The Changeling", Teal'c drifts between obvious hallucinations and less obvious hallucinations. It took me a second time watching the episode to realize, that his hallucinations of Daniel Jackson were different, mostly because he appeared independent of the other characters. At that moment it was suddenly obvious, that this is strongly hinted to be the real ascended Daniel Jackson playing an apparition like he did to O'Neill in "Abyss" earlier that season.
** Pretty much spelled out, this troper though, when Daniel (visiting Teal'c in his firefighter delusion) tells him that if both lives seem equally really, then perhaps they're both equally ''un''real.
* While the Ancients were definitely NeglectfulPrecursors overall, the Anubis situation [[FridgeBrilliance wasn't the horrible neglect it looks like at first glance]]. The seemingly intractable problem - a disembodied Goa'uld with all the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien scientific knowledge]] of the Ancients - was finally solved by [[SealedEvilInADuel Oma Desala moving directly to fight him]], meaning that she would be bound fighting him forever. Sounds horrible, but remember, she ''helped him ascend in the first place''. All the ancients were demanding was that she clean up her own mess. Sure, that's hard on all the mere mortals oppressed or killed by Anubis until then, but there is a certain symmetry to it that godlike beings generally like and there's no reason Oma couldn't have done it right away.
** Though I wouldn't worry about Oma having to fight Anubis forever, mostly becuase no matter how much he's changed in some ways he'll always suffer from the one flaw that all the snakes have, a total lack of patience...
* It always bothered this troper how wildly the Goa'uld power dynamics grew during the course of the series. At the end of the first season, everyone seems flabbergasted that Apophis has two motherships, and then a few years later apparently you're just not even cool unless you're running around with fleets of thirty. Then it hit me: the Goa'uld had been living for centuries under a single Supreme System Lord, who was probably limiting their fleet strength the same way he was preventing all-out feudalism from breaking out. Which makes, again, pretty much the entire series [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Jack and Daniel's fault]].
** Before Ra was killed, the Goa'uld had a feudal system of government, with one ruler with many rulers below that controlled their own domain. After killing Ra all the Goa'uld wanted to take his place, because they are Goa'uld and that's what they do. Apophis sent two ships because that's all he had left, he had few Jaffa left after that battle according to the next few episodes. In the two parter, "Moebius", at the end of season 8, Ra was not dead so Apophis had lots of ships to send and attack Earth. Because Earth was running around killing Goa'ulds left and right but not their fleets, the remaining Goa'uld were able to take their fleets and Jaffa. However, because gods cannot die, yet Jaffa just kept getting new bosses every time the last one died, they started figuring out that all that talk about false gods was right.
22nd Jun '16 7:45:28 AM GuiltlessCodling
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*During "Window of Opportunity" Earth was one of 14 planets that were caught in a time loop and thus cut off from the planets outside. We saw SG12 get into trouble and need to gate home, but we never learn if there were other teams on non-timeloop planets. If there were, they would have been stranded without help. For 3 months.
29th May '16 3:05:20 PM suchetha
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** Well, in the Air Force at least, it is entirely acceptable to refer to a superior by their rank, including abreviated forms for cases like calling a Lieutenant Colonel a Colonel. That said, it's faster just to say "Sir" or "Ma'am". Maybe calling him Colonel instead of "Sir" is just a light holdover from the borderline StrawFemenist version of Sam in the pilot, in this case, Sam preferring to use a gender-neutral form of address for a male superior.

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** Well, in the Air Force at least, it is entirely acceptable to refer to a superior by their rank, including abreviated forms for cases like calling a Lieutenant Colonel a Colonel. That said, it's faster just to say "Sir" or "Ma'am". Maybe calling him Colonel instead of "Sir" is just a light holdover from the borderline StrawFemenist StrawFeminist version of Sam in the pilot, in this case, Sam preferring to use a gender-neutral form of address for a male superior.
16th Apr '16 10:07:55 PM ApeAccount
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* In "Moebius" SG1 all die in ancient Egypt. Now, it's not unusual for a time travel episode to involve the characters being killed (in fact, it's unusual for it not to). However, in this case we had three timelines. Timeline was the original timeline which we watched for the first eight seasons, in which O'Neill's pond has no fish in it (as was referenced in previous episodes). Timeline two is the timeline in which the Stargate is never discovered. Timeline three is the one that results at the end of the episode in which O'Neill's pond has fish in it. Though most of what happened in this timeline was probably identical to what happened in the original timeline, that doesn't change the fact that if you watch any pre-Moebius episode you know these characters all eventually end up being killed in ancient Egypt.

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* In "Moebius" SG1 SG-1 all die in ancient Egypt. Now, it's not unusual for a time travel episode to involve the characters being killed (in fact, it's unusual for it not to). However, in this case we had three timelines. Timeline one was the original timeline which we watched for the first eight seasons, in which O'Neill's pond has no fish in it (as was referenced in previous episodes). Timeline two is the timeline in which the Stargate is never discovered. Timeline three is the one that results at the end of the episode in which O'Neill's pond has fish in it. Though most of what happened in this timeline was probably identical to what happened in the original timeline, that doesn't change the fact that if you watch any pre-Moebius episode you know these characters all eventually end up being killed in ancient Egypt.
16th Apr '16 10:03:30 PM ApeAccount
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* In "2001", SG-1 provide the Aschen with several extremely dangerous gate addresses, including one that led to a black hole, which had nearly destroyed he earth when they encountered it, along with others which O'Neill claims are worse. If the Aschen travel there, their civilization could be destroyed. Sure, they're bastards, but annihilating them like this seems extreme.

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* In "2001", SG-1 provide the Aschen with several extremely dangerous gate addresses, including one that led to a black hole, which had nearly destroyed he the earth when they encountered it, along with others which O'Neill claims are worse. If the Aschen travel there, their civilization could be destroyed. Sure, they're bastards, but annihilating them like this seems extreme.


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*** Either way, the fact remains that when those addresses were handed over there was a good chance that their entire planet would be destroyed. While it's possible every human on the Aschen homeworld is in favour of the genocide they're committing, it's equally possible they don't even know about it. Maybe it's only one country that has access to the Stargate on their world and they keep what they're doing a secret from the rest of the world like on Earth. Or maybe what they're doing is known but there's a large force rebelling against them trying to put an end to it. Either way, there'd certainly be children who have absolutely nothing to do with the genocide but who'd be killed by the black hole just the same.
25th Mar '16 1:12:52 AM harlbior
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* The reason the Asgard and the Tau'ri get along so well isn't because the Asgard are so benevolent but rather because they share the trait of humility. Every other species, no matter how intelligent or well intentioned, believes themselves to be invincible or that their moral philosophy for one reason or another.

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* The reason the Asgard and the Tau'ri get along so well isn't because the Asgard are so benevolent but rather because they share the trait of humility. Every other species, no matter how intelligent or well intentioned, believes themselves to be invincible or that their moral philosophy for one reason or another.another is superior.



23rd Jan '16 9:10:04 AM PuritanPhysicist
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* When Daniel descends after trying to stop Anubis, he keeps calling O'Neill "Jim." At the end of season 8, "Threads" shows us that [[spoiler:Anubis]] calls himself Jim while in the higher planes. Maybe that's why Daniel keeps thinking of that name?
29th Nov '15 12:02:59 PM pittsburghmuggle
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* If the military's best-of-the-best are assigned to offworld bases and starship duties, imagine how the poor guys who are instead assigned to normal, boring earth posts will feel when they find out they were passed over for an awesome adventure.
21st Nov '15 12:01:31 AM Beavizz81
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*** Thats a dark interpretation of Jack who have showed no sign of being an ephebophile beforehand. I agree with the guy that basically boiled it down to hormons and he slowly molded into a teenager with a middleaged man's experience.
9th Oct '15 9:52:44 AM ErikModi
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* In "Shadowplay," [[spoiler: look closely when "Jonas is rescuing Dr. Kieran from the people following him." You can clearly see an Intar "crystal" on the butt of his sidearm, but it shoots like a regular gun? So, the prop department screwed up, right? Wrong! It makes total sense that Jonas would request an Intar instead of a lethal sidearm when visiting his homeworld, so he could still defend himself (or just comply with SGC regulations stating all offworld personnel must be armed) without killing anyone. Dr. Kieran doesn't know that Jonas' gun is an Intar, or even what an Intar is, so he assumes it's a regular gun, and it behaves that way. Wonderfully subtle sign of his growing delusions.]]
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