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29th Oct '17 1:20:58 AM RRWolf
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***It was stated in "Threads" that there may be replicators in other galaxies. This proves it only effected Milky Way gates.


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*Imagine what Harrid and Salice must have experienced when inhabited by Daniel and Vala. Assuming the stones work the way they do in SGU,[[note]]the stones obviously aren't working both ways. For all we know, they could be experiencing everything. This would be especially frightening for Salice who experienced Vala making mistakes she never would have made, then being (correctly) accused of being posessed and being burned to death before being revived.[[/note]] they both would have been going about their daily lives before suddenly being in a completely different place, then a split second later being about to be burned to death.
20th Sep '17 9:35:35 PM flyboy254
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** Probably thankful they didn't have to go up against the false gods, technological terrors, and ascended demonic beings.
14th Jul '17 2:10:24 PM thatsnumberwang
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* In ''Emancipation'' the idea that Carter beating up a single warlord is going to bring about equal rights for these women in a culture ''this'' misogynistic is shockingly naive. Even if Turghan sticks to his word, which is extremely doubtful as we have no reason to believe that either he or his men would be honorable enough to uphold the results of their duel once SG-1 leaves, the other tribes have no reason to listen to a single thing he says; if anything they'll see him as weak for being defeated by a woman and Moughal as weak for treating the women as equals and use the excuse to go to war. And by the standards of such a primitive society, Moughal is an old man. What about after he dies and his successor takes charge of his tribe of newly freed women? If [[KarmaHoudini Abu]] is anything to go by, then at least some the men under his command see no problem with selling women to known violent rapists if it helps themselves in some way, and the idea that the women would go from second class citizens to commanding enough respect to become his successor in such a short space of time is ridiculous. There is a reason why in real life that it took so long for women to gain equal rights with men (and still don't in certain parts of the world) and that is because these no-nonsense simple approaches to complex problems simply do not work.
18th Jun '17 1:08:03 PM StarSword
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* In "[[Recap/StargateSG1S2E9Secrets Secrets]]", Jacob Carter doesn't believe the "deep space radar telemetry" cover story for a minute, and for good reason: something of that nature would more logically be commemorated by, for example, a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritorious_Service_Medal_(United_States) Meritorious Service Medal]], but Jack and Sam are being given the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Medal Air Medal]], which is reserved for achievements in aerial flight.

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* In "[[Recap/StargateSG1S2E9Secrets Secrets]]", Jacob Carter doesn't believe the "deep space radar telemetry" cover story for a minute, and for good reason: something of that nature would more logically be commemorated by, for example, a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritorious_Service_Medal_(United_States) Meritorious Service Medal]], but Jack and Sam are being given the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Medal Air Medal]], which is reserved for achievements in aerial flight.
flight. (Under the circumstances of the actual mission, a more logical award would be a Distinguished Flying Cross with "V" Device or Legion of Merit[[note]]the Air Force doesn't use the "V" device for the Legion of Merit[[/note]], or the Medal of Honor, but those would be even harder to explain away than the Air Medal.)
18th Jun '17 12:38:18 PM StarSword
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* In "[[Recap/StargateSG1S2E9Secrets Secrets]]", Jacob Carter doesn't believe the "deep space radar telemetry" cover story for a minute, and for good reason: something of that nature would more logically be commemorated by, for example, a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meritorious_Service_Medal_(United_States) Meritorious Service Medal]], but Jack and Sam are being given the [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Medal Air Medal]], which is reserved for achievements in aerial flight.
23rd Aug '16 1:52:54 AM harlbior
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* At the start of the ninth season of ''Series/StargateSG1'', I was expecting Mitchell to be nothing more than a flawless O'Neill clone to try and buy our affection. It got bad when Landry talked about how Mitchell apparently had no flaws as far as he could tell. But after getting to know Mitchell, it hit me. The writers were ''reassuring'' us that Mitchell would have flaws and like Landry, we would figure them out. The very fact that they were aware of the fear of Mitchell being flawless was a great comfort to me. -- Green Dragon
* It only just occurred to me that in the fan favorite, groundhog day-inspired episode "Window of Opportunity", every time time resets O'Neill finds himself in the cafeteria eating a bowl of froot loops. Froot LOOPS! -- {{Tropers/NoSoup4Me}}
* And hey, I can have two FridgeBrilliance moments at once. In ''Continuum'', Ba'al goes back in time and alters history so that he becomes lord over all the Goa'uld system lords. At first this just seemed to me to be an easy way to bring back some of the dead villains for a cameo in the film, especially Yu and Apophis, but then I realized which of the Goa'uld Ba'al uses as his default lieutenant -- Cronos. Basically, Ba'al built himself a time machine and then used it to make the self-proclaimed god of time his bitch! -- {{Tropers/NoSoup4Me}}
** Sorry to be a wet blanket, but to be accurate, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronus Cronos]] (in mythology) was the former lord of the universe (the Titan equivalent of Zeus, essentially) before his sons Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon overthrew him - no relation (surprisingly, for ancient mythology) to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronos Chronos/Chronus]], the personification of time.
** Given the proliferation of both spellings for an intended meaning of "time," this is more likely to be writers not knowing that there's a difference between "c" and "ch" as far as Ancient Greek is concerned.
** Ancient Greek doesn't have a "C". It has a "K" (kappa) and a "Ch" (chi).
* In Episode 6.19: "The Changeling", Teal'c drifts between obvious hallucinations and less obvious hallucinations. It took me a second time watching the episode to realize, that his hallucinations of Daniel Jackson were different, mostly because he appeared independent of the other characters. At that moment it was suddenly obvious, that this is strongly hinted to be the real ascended Daniel Jackson playing an apparition like he did to O'Neill in "Abyss" earlier that season.
** Pretty much spelled out, this troper though, when Daniel (visiting Teal'c in his firefighter delusion) tells him that if both lives seem equally really, then perhaps they're both equally ''un''real.
* While the Ancients were definitely NeglectfulPrecursors overall, the Anubis situation [[FridgeBrilliance wasn't the horrible neglect it looks like at first glance]]. The seemingly intractable problem - a disembodied Goa'uld with all the [[SufficientlyAdvancedAlien scientific knowledge]] of the Ancients - was finally solved by [[SealedEvilInADuel Oma Desala moving directly to fight him]], meaning that she would be bound fighting him forever. Sounds horrible, but remember, she ''helped him ascend in the first place''. All the ancients were demanding was that she clean up her own mess. Sure, that's hard on all the mere mortals oppressed or killed by Anubis until then, but there is a certain symmetry to it that godlike beings generally like and there's no reason Oma couldn't have done it right away.
** Though I wouldn't worry about Oma having to fight Anubis forever, mostly becuase no matter how much he's changed in some ways he'll always suffer from the one flaw that all the snakes have, a total lack of patience...
* It always bothered this troper how wildly the Goa'uld power dynamics grew during the course of the series. At the end of the first season, everyone seems flabbergasted that Apophis has two motherships, and then a few years later apparently you're just not even cool unless you're running around with fleets of thirty. Then it hit me: the Goa'uld had been living for centuries under a single Supreme System Lord, who was probably limiting their fleet strength the same way he was preventing all-out feudalism from breaking out. Which makes, again, pretty much the entire series [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Jack and Daniel's fault]].
** Before Ra was killed, the Goa'uld had a feudal system of government, with one ruler with many rulers below that controlled their own domain. After killing Ra all the Goa'uld wanted to take his place, because they are Goa'uld and that's what they do. Apophis sent two ships because that's all he had left, he had few Jaffa left after that battle according to the next few episodes. In the two parter, "Moebius", at the end of season 8, Ra was not dead so Apophis had lots of ships to send and attack Earth. Because Earth was running around killing Goa'ulds left and right but not their fleets, the remaining Goa'uld were able to take their fleets and Jaffa. However, because gods cannot die, yet Jaffa just kept getting new bosses every time the last one died, they started figuring out that all that talk about false gods was right.
22nd Jun '16 7:45:28 AM GuiltlessCodling
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*During "Window of Opportunity" Earth was one of 14 planets that were caught in a time loop and thus cut off from the planets outside. We saw SG12 get into trouble and need to gate home, but we never learn if there were other teams on non-timeloop planets. If there were, they would have been stranded without help. For 3 months.
29th May '16 3:05:20 PM suchetha
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** Well, in the Air Force at least, it is entirely acceptable to refer to a superior by their rank, including abreviated forms for cases like calling a Lieutenant Colonel a Colonel. That said, it's faster just to say "Sir" or "Ma'am". Maybe calling him Colonel instead of "Sir" is just a light holdover from the borderline StrawFemenist version of Sam in the pilot, in this case, Sam preferring to use a gender-neutral form of address for a male superior.

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** Well, in the Air Force at least, it is entirely acceptable to refer to a superior by their rank, including abreviated forms for cases like calling a Lieutenant Colonel a Colonel. That said, it's faster just to say "Sir" or "Ma'am". Maybe calling him Colonel instead of "Sir" is just a light holdover from the borderline StrawFemenist StrawFeminist version of Sam in the pilot, in this case, Sam preferring to use a gender-neutral form of address for a male superior.
16th Apr '16 10:07:55 PM ApeAccount
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* In "Moebius" SG1 all die in ancient Egypt. Now, it's not unusual for a time travel episode to involve the characters being killed (in fact, it's unusual for it not to). However, in this case we had three timelines. Timeline was the original timeline which we watched for the first eight seasons, in which O'Neill's pond has no fish in it (as was referenced in previous episodes). Timeline two is the timeline in which the Stargate is never discovered. Timeline three is the one that results at the end of the episode in which O'Neill's pond has fish in it. Though most of what happened in this timeline was probably identical to what happened in the original timeline, that doesn't change the fact that if you watch any pre-Moebius episode you know these characters all eventually end up being killed in ancient Egypt.

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* In "Moebius" SG1 SG-1 all die in ancient Egypt. Now, it's not unusual for a time travel episode to involve the characters being killed (in fact, it's unusual for it not to). However, in this case we had three timelines. Timeline one was the original timeline which we watched for the first eight seasons, in which O'Neill's pond has no fish in it (as was referenced in previous episodes). Timeline two is the timeline in which the Stargate is never discovered. Timeline three is the one that results at the end of the episode in which O'Neill's pond has fish in it. Though most of what happened in this timeline was probably identical to what happened in the original timeline, that doesn't change the fact that if you watch any pre-Moebius episode you know these characters all eventually end up being killed in ancient Egypt.
16th Apr '16 10:03:30 PM ApeAccount
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* In "2001", SG-1 provide the Aschen with several extremely dangerous gate addresses, including one that led to a black hole, which had nearly destroyed he earth when they encountered it, along with others which O'Neill claims are worse. If the Aschen travel there, their civilization could be destroyed. Sure, they're bastards, but annihilating them like this seems extreme.

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* In "2001", SG-1 provide the Aschen with several extremely dangerous gate addresses, including one that led to a black hole, which had nearly destroyed he the earth when they encountered it, along with others which O'Neill claims are worse. If the Aschen travel there, their civilization could be destroyed. Sure, they're bastards, but annihilating them like this seems extreme.


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*** Either way, the fact remains that when those addresses were handed over there was a good chance that their entire planet would be destroyed. While it's possible every human on the Aschen homeworld is in favour of the genocide they're committing, it's equally possible they don't even know about it. Maybe it's only one country that has access to the Stargate on their world and they keep what they're doing a secret from the rest of the world like on Earth. Or maybe what they're doing is known but there's a large force rebelling against them trying to put an end to it. Either way, there'd certainly be children who have absolutely nothing to do with the genocide but who'd be killed by the black hole just the same.
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