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22nd Oct '17 8:48:56 PM korben600
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** Actually, Raleigh could've just been BSing. Gipsy rips out Leatherback's organ that houses the EMP before he has a chance to use it, so we never find out if Gipsy would've been affected. Raleigh could've just been BSing to get into the fight, and since nobody knew how the EMP worked (and they didn't really have any other options) they believed him and put him and Mako into the fight.





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\n* There's a load of Fridge Brilliance behind not just positioning Jaegers in front of the Rift and attacking the Kaiju there, but the biggest bit concerns how the Kaiju and Jaegers fight. Jaegers are based off of humans so they like to stand up and fight, while Kaiju are more reptilian. Why does this matter? Because humans are built to fight on land. Jaegers don't swim, they just walk underwater, while Kaiju like Scunner and Slattern are basically like giant snakes. Kaiju have a massive speed boost when they swim underwater, while Jaeger's can run faster on land and have can use the environment to their advantage. Letting the Kaiju exhaust themselves by having to travel all the way across the ocean and fight in a completely different type of environment than what they're used to (because the Precursor's realm is aqueous), gives the humans a massive home-field advantage.
** Also, pay attention to the locations of the fights. The only time Jaegers die are when they're in shallow or deep water that allows the Kaiju to sneak up on Jaegers.
** Fridge Brilliance for the Precursors as well. The Kaiju primarily attack population centers on the Pacific Coast. That's not just to cull the human population, that's to force the Jaegers out. If they attacked depopulated areas, the Jaegers would just wait until they're heavily inland, in a defensible location, then attack, while heading for population centers forces Jaegers to intercept them in port at worst, and at best in the open ocean, in either case, they have the advantage.

22nd Oct '17 8:22:04 PM korben600
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* The reason that Raleigh decides to check for a pulse following Gipsy's tussle with Leatherback is because the last time he thought he killed a Kaiju with a plasma cannon, Knifehead, it snuck up on him and ambushed him, nearly killing him. So he wants to avoid that, especially since we know that the Kaiju can attack and repeat previous successful strategies.

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* The reason that Raleigh decides to check "check for a pulse pulse" following Gipsy's tussle with Leatherback is because the last time he thought he killed a Kaiju with a plasma cannon, Knifehead, it snuck up on him and ambushed him, nearly killing him. So he wants to avoid that, especially since we know that the Kaiju can attack and repeat previous successful strategies.
** Also, it seems like a stupid idea to waste ammo on a dead Kaiju when they could've just ripped its guts out by hand or something, but Raleigh only suggests it after he realizes where Otachi is, which is inside a heavily populated city. The plasma cannon doesn't shoot Kaiju, it shoots ''through'' Kaiju, and is incredibly hard to maneuver with in close quarters. Between those two aspects of the gun, the plasma cannon would've done more damage to the buildings around Gypsy Danger than to the actual Kaiju, so he figured he might as well use it then to make sure Leatherback was dead since they wouldn't need it later. [[spoiler: Now, they were wrong, and it would've been helpful when Otachi pulled Gyspy into the stratosphere, but in Raleigh and Mako's defense, that was completely unexpected, and they made the logical chose at the time.]]
17th Oct '17 7:57:41 AM Willy2537
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\n* How did [[spoiler: Slattern survived a ''nuke'' detonating in his face? Simple. Before Jaegers, nukes were the only effective weapons capable of taking Kaijus down. Even Trespasser, the first Kaiju ever, took three nukes before it's finally dead. Now factor in how the Precursors made each of the latest generation Kaijus to specifically deal with opponents they have to face, it's no wonder why Slattern is capable of withstanding a full nuke blast with ease. This also leads to a FridgeHorror: any possible new Kaijus after Slattern ''will all be immune to nukes''. It's a good thing Raleigh and Mako managed to seal the breach when they did, otherwise it'd be just a matter of time before the Kaijus win.]]

8th Oct '17 11:30:19 PM Metalshina
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\n* The reason that Raleigh decides to check for a pulse following Gipsy's tussle with Leatherback is because the last time he thought he killed a Kaiju with a plasma cannon, Knifehead, it snuck up on him and ambushed him, nearly killing him. So he wants to avoid that, especially since we know that the Kaiju can attack and repeat previous successful strategies.

8th Oct '17 1:28:38 PM korben600
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** Actually, it's two levels of symbolism. The humans made monsters to fight the monsters the Precursors were sending, so in a way, the Jaegers were our version of the Precursor's monsters. But Jaegers weren't based off of ''our'' monsters, they were based off of theirs. Our monster we sent through was worse. The humans sent into the rift the one weapon so destructive, they were scared to use it on ourselves. [[NuclearWeaponsTaboo The one thing humans had that was even more destructive than any Kaiju.]] Gypsy Danger may have been the Precursor's nightmare. But her nuclear reactor was ours. [[HumansAreCthulhu And even though the Precursors sent to send dozens of their monsters to our world and couldn't bring us to heel, all we had to do was send one.]]

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** Actually, it's two levels of symbolism. The humans made monsters to fight the monsters the Precursors were sending, so in a way, the Jaegers were our version of the Precursor's monsters. But Jaegers weren't based off of ''our'' monsters, they were based off of theirs. Our monster we sent through was worse. The humans sent into the rift the one weapon so destructive, they were scared to use it on ourselves. [[NuclearWeaponsTaboo The one thing humans had that was even more destructive than any Kaiju.]] Gypsy Danger may have been the Precursor's nightmare. But her nuclear reactor was ours. [[HumansAreCthulhu [[HorrifyingtheHorror And even though the Precursors sent to send dozens of their monsters to our world and couldn't bring us to heel, all we had to do was send one.]]
8th Oct '17 1:20:54 PM korben600
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** Actually, it's two levels of symbolism. The humans made monsters to fight the monsters the Precursors were sending, so in a way, the Jaegers were our version of the Precursor's monsters. But Jaegers weren't based off of ''our'' monsters, they were based off of theirs. Our monster we sent through was worse. The humans sent into the rift the one weapon so destructive, they were scared to use it on ourselves. [[NuclearWeaponsTaboo The one thing humans had that was even more destructive than any Kaiju.]] Gypsy Danger may have been the Precursor's nightmare. But her nuclear reactor was ours. [[HumansAreCthulhu And even though the Precursors sent to send dozens of their monsters to our world and couldn't bring us to heel, all we had to do was send one.]]
8th Oct '17 12:49:47 PM korben600
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** There's really good reasons that Crimson and Cherno were wiped out so easily.
*** When introducing Cherno Alpha, Strucker says that they've been protecting the Siberian portion of the wall, and that their watch has been unbroken for six years. But, the thing is, Kaiju mainly attack ''population'' centers. Siberia doesn't have any warm water ports, and thus, has a really low population. Cherno was protecting one of the least inhabited areas in the Pacific Ocean, in all likelihood, they were on easy mode for six years, since the Kaiju were focused on the Japanese, Chinese, American, and Australian ports instead, which is why they got destroyed in the fight.
*** The thing is, Crimson, despite being a very inventive design, is one of the most predictable of all the Jaegers. To quote a troper later in this page "You'll notice that Striker Eureka, Cherno Alpha and especially Crimson Typhoon use the same general tactics and fighting styles in all their fights -- Striker typically knocks around a Kaiju for a minute before going for the chest missiles, Cherno has been fighting (apparently non-stop) for ten years, and Crimson Typhoon has had the same tactic in use for so long that even Raleigh, who's been out of the game for five years, was familiar with it." Furthermore, in a blink and you'll miss it line, Strucker mentions that Crimson has protected Hong Kong port seven times. That means that from the pseudo-drift that the Kaiju had, the precursors likely not only knew what Crimson looked like, what it's main fighting technique is, but they also knew ''where'' Crimson would be. So what happens? Two Kaiju attack Hong Kong Port and the first Jaeger they kill is Crimson Typhoon.


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5th Apr '17 6:48:51 PM Godzillawolf
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* Striker Eureka, the only Mach 5 Jaeger, is capable of making mincemeat of Category 4 kaiju, as shown with Mutavore and to an extent Otachi (who he had dead to rights until Leatherback interfered), as well as putting up one heck of a fight with a Category 5 kaiju. It's quite likely the reason the Jaegers were dropping so easily was ''because'' rather than advancing further as they had been up until that point, the world leaders focused the money into what amounted to a gigantic publicity stunt that failed to accomplish anything, given the latest model was clearly up to snuff with the current kaiju.
10th Sep '16 9:54:40 AM Rand86
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*** Basically, the answer is [[MathematiciansAnswer yes]].
10th Jul '16 3:50:11 AM Laina1312
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** You could even throw in Raleigh, to some extant, since she's felt the pain of the loss of Yancy in the drift. Which becomes rather Heartwarming if you think that Mako now considers Raleigh her family.
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