History Fridge / MASH

4th Dec '17 7:24:06 PM Vandalia92
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*** Actually, this is not correct. To be illegal, such falsification must be "material." With the time of death, there is always ambiguity and it is impossible to say that a 30 minute change in the time of death was actually material. In fact, in the military, the time of death is frequently misreported. A service member's family gets the most benefits if he dies within 30 days of being medically retired. So if a soldier came in to a military hospital essentially "dead", we would complete the medical retirement process (maybe 90 minutes, tops), and then - and only then - officially declare him dead. So what Hawkeye did was not at all unusual, and it is possible that this relatively common scenario was the basis for the story.
8th Nov '17 5:15:06 AM ErikModi
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** Falsifying a death certificate is ''hugely'' illegal, and Hawkeye is the only one who thinks of it when they fail.
7th Oct '17 4:13:13 PM lorgskyegon
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**** It shows that Charles thinks he is so much better that he thinks he couldn't possibly make a simple mistake as that one so he doesn't need to show immense care.
12th Aug '17 9:30:16 AM Vandalia92
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** A reenlistment must be approved by the unit commander. Obviously, Colonel Potter did not give his approval given his behavior later in the episode. So the "contract" was not worth the paper it was written on.
12th Aug '17 9:26:29 AM Vandalia92
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**** It is important to remember this was a different era. While residency training was rapidly becoming the norm, it would not at all have been uncommon to have a large number of non-residency trained physicians - including surgeons - in the community. Residency then was like a sub-specialty fellowship is today. While there are fellowships in things like "laparoscopic surgery" today, if you have your gallbladder taken out today it almost certainly will be done by a general surgeon who has not completed a fellowship in such things.


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** A few things: First, in military medicine there is something known as "MASH Syndrome." This is the belief by line officers and politicians that casualties in a conflict are mostly if not exclusively surgical. In reality, the opposite is true. The only US conflict that had more soldiers lost to surgical rather than medical problems was the invasion of Grenada. In reality, the vast majority of patients cycling through a MASH would have been those needing basic medical care. In addition, the vast majority of patients would have needed very basic care, i.e. "flesh wounds", "fractures" and the like. Burns was not a completely incompetent surgeon, I believe Blake called him a "fair but competent" surgeon (or something like that.)
23rd Jul '17 10:26:10 PM nightkiller
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** According the U.S. Army Center of Military History “…a soldier earned four points for every month he served in close combat, two points per month for rear-echelon duty in Korea, and one point for duty elsewhere in the Far East…The Army initially stated that enlisted men needed to earn forty-three points to be eligible for rotation back to the States, while officers required fifty-five points. In June 1952 the Army reduced these requirements to thirty-six points for enlisted men and thirty-seven points for officers.”

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** According the [[http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/kw-stale/stale.htm U.S. Army Center of Military History History]] “…a soldier earned four points for every month he served in close combat, two points per month for rear-echelon duty in Korea, and one point for duty elsewhere in the Far East…The Army initially stated that enlisted men needed to earn forty-three points to be eligible for rotation back to the States, while officers required fifty-five points. In June 1952 the Army reduced these requirements to thirty-six points for enlisted men and thirty-seven points for officers.”
23rd Jul '17 10:24:50 PM nightkiller
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** According the U.S. Army Center of Military History “…a soldier earned four points for every month he served in close combat, two points per month for rear-echelon duty in Korea, and one point for duty elsewhere in the Far East…The Army initially stated that enlisted men needed to earn forty-three points to be eligible for rotation back to the States, while officers required fifty-five points. In June 1952 the Army reduced these requirements to thirty-six points for enlisted men and thirty-seven points for officers.”
1st Jul '17 9:36:07 PM Lightning4119
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* Throughout the series, a number of shenanigans are necessary because of the characters conveniently forgetting that the VIP tent exists, thus having to bunk elsewhere (see Col. Mulholland in "House Arrest," Tony Baker in "The Nurses," etc.). When you remember that the hospital is frequently shelled from both sides, it's not out of the realm of possibility that the VIP tent gets blown up or used for other purposes every now and then.
2nd Mar '17 9:52:30 PM Lightning4119
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** He wasn't the only one. When Margaret shows Potter a picture of him, he asks who the girl in the picture is.

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** He wasn't the only one. When Margaret shows Potter a picture of him, he asks who the girl in the picture is. Which raises the question of just how careless (or audacious) Donald was that he gave Margaret a picture of him ''with another woman.''



*** Not to mention that we rarely hear about what happens to the casualties once they've left the camp, but there's no reason that the doctors couldn't have gotten word from the 121st Evac that one of their patients didn't make it. Who's to say that several of Frank's patients don't croak at the evac hospital?

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*** Not to mention that we rarely hear about what happens to the casualties once they've left the camp, but there's no reason that the doctors couldn't have gotten word from the 121st Evac that one of their patients didn't make it. Who's to say that several of Frank's patients don't croak at the evac hospital?hospital? In multiple episodes he fails to diagnose simple conditions - hypothermia in one that leads him to write off a patient that was presumably saved, shock in another that nearly lets a patient die to renal failure - cuts corners, and has no investment in his patients. It all tallies up to put Frank squarely in the area of "we need every cutter we can get, no matter ''how'' incompetent he is." The same shortage that got the other surgeons out of so much trouble kept Frank from being reassigned to a morgue detail.
26th Feb '17 1:19:02 PM Lightning4119
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** Because they're going to do their best to do it legitimately, and it seems like Hawkeye only thinks to just falsify the death certificate when the soldier finally dies just before midnight. Besides, if ''you'' had just left a man to die, could you enjoy the party?
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