History Fridge / Irredeemable

27th Aug '17 3:45:29 AM TropeRoper
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\n* Leave it to Hornet, a former policeman, to stay watchful and pick up when a situation is going bad.

18th Jul '17 12:00:19 PM KizunaTallis
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!!FridgeBrilliance



* Qubit comes off as coldhearted at times, but this is a story about superheroes getting emotionally unstable and carried away. His cool-headedness makes him sane enough to fix the situation, not perfectly but as best as he can.
** He also actively seeks to redeem the Plutonian throughout the story; he knows very well that a lot of the Plutonianís actions came from the inability to deal with people, and [[spoiler: sets in motion a plan that will restore the Plutonianís heroism, but also mercy kill him since heís done too much for people to really accept him.]]
** Qubit is not the only one who understands the Plutonianís situation. Hornet, Tonyís best friend, noted that he was going to crack under the pressure. The President muses that maybe the Plutonian had had a bad day; as the leader of a nation, he is probably fully aware of the pressures of dealing with people.


* FridgeHorror: A mad scientist has a one-use portal that can take one and only one person to another dimension, keyed to a world with absolutely no supers. Max Damage attempts to use it to send his sidekick out of the Plutonian's reach forever, but she mistakes the gesture as a combat maneuver, and throws it at her opponent... a rampaging killbot promptly sucked into that paradise, and now irretrievably stuck there with unsuspecting and defenseless billions.

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* Qubit comes off as coldhearted cold-hearted and detached at times, but this is a story about superheroes getting emotionally unstable and carried away. His cool-headedness makes him sane enough to fix the situation, not perfectly but as best as he can.
** He also actively seeks to redeem the Plutonian throughout the story; he knows very well that a lot of the Plutonianís Plutonian's actions came from the inability to deal with people, and [[spoiler: sets in motion a plan that will restore the Plutonianís Plutonian's heroism, but also mercy kill {{mercy kill}} him since heís done too much for people anyone to really ever accept him.]]
him again]].
** Qubit is not the only one who understands the Plutonianís Plutonian's situation. Hornet, Tonyís Tony's best friend, noted friend on the team, noticed that he Tony was going to crack under the pressure. The pressure eventually. And in a later volume, the American President muses that maybe the Plutonian had had a one really bad day; as the leader of a nation, he is probably fully aware of the pressures of [[ComesGreatResponsibility dealing with people.


huge responsibilities.]]


!!FridgeHorror
* FridgeHorror: A mad scientist has a one-use portal that can take one and only one person to another dimension, keyed to a world with absolutely no supers. Max Damage attempts to use it to send his sidekick out of the Plutonian's reach forever, but she mistakes the gesture as a combat maneuver, and throws it at her opponent... a rampaging killbot promptly sucked into that paradise, and now irretrievably stuck there with unsuspecting and defenseless billions.



*** Also, going by what happened in the main Irredeemable plotline, [[spoiler:that entire world is probably now slated to be conquered by the Vespa on account of being sold out by Hornet along with every other peaceful world Qubit discovered.]] Which is an entirely different sort of FridgeHorror.
** Remember that auditory virus that slaughtered children, and spread on their dying screams? [[NightmareFetishist Plutonian thought it sounded beautiful even before going nuts.]]
** Modeus knew what was coming, and planned for it by hiding out in Samsara. He told nobody, and allowed Samsara's innocence to shatter and abused Tony's paternal feelings for the boy, because Modeus thought this would help [[UnholyMatrimony Tony to return his affection.]]

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*** Also, going * Going by what happened in the main Irredeemable ''Irredeemable'' plotline, [[spoiler:that entire world is probably now slated to be conquered by the Vespa on account of being sold out by Hornet along with every other peaceful world Qubit discovered.]] Which is an entirely different sort of FridgeHorror.
** * Remember that auditory virus that slaughtered children, and spread on their dying screams? [[NightmareFetishist Plutonian thought it sounded beautiful even before going nuts.]]
** * Modeus knew what was coming, and planned for it by hiding out in Samsara. He told nobody, and allowed Samsara's innocence to shatter and abused Tony's paternal feelings for the boy, because Modeus thought this would help [[UnholyMatrimony Tony to return his affection.]]
4th Jul '17 7:53:16 AM TropeRoper
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks. Basically Max is a hero despite acknowledging his flaws while Tony is a villain to deny his own.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks. Basically Max is a hero despite acknowledging his flaws while Tony is a villain to deny his own.



* FridgeBrilliance: Why does the Plutonian agree to leave Coalville alone out of respect for Max Damage? As noted under the Heartwarming entry, Max's sincere gratitude to the Plutonian is perhaps the one thing that can move Tony. All of the ungrateful masses muttering behind his back and its one of his most hated enemies that can genuinely say "thank you" to him. It's all Tony ever wanted.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why does the Plutonian agree to leave Coalville alone out of respect for Max Damage? As noted under the Heartwarming entry, Max's sincere gratitude to the Plutonian is perhaps the one thing that can move Tony. All of the ungrateful masses muttering behind his back and its one of his most hated enemies that can genuinely say "thank you" to him. It's all Tony ever wanted.


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* Qubit comes off as coldhearted at times, but this is a story about superheroes getting emotionally unstable and carried away. His cool-headedness makes him sane enough to fix the situation, not perfectly but as best as he can.
** He also actively seeks to redeem the Plutonian throughout the story; he knows very well that a lot of the Plutonianís actions came from the inability to deal with people, and [[spoiler: sets in motion a plan that will restore the Plutonianís heroism, but also mercy kill him since heís done too much for people to really accept him.]]
** Qubit is not the only one who understands the Plutonianís situation. Hornet, Tonyís best friend, noted that he was going to crack under the pressure. The President muses that maybe the Plutonian had had a bad day; as the leader of a nation, he is probably fully aware of the pressures of dealing with people.

2nd Jul '17 8:31:12 AM TropeRoper
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* The Plutonian is seen to have a father whoís upright and strong, if slightly resentful towards others, and who breaks down upon realizing he couldnít save his wife from a terminal illness and kills him and her. This capacity carries on to his son, on a more godlike scale...
7th Dec '16 11:32:19 PM Maljen
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** On another level, it's possible that Tony not only figured out that for all their bad blood he and Max understood each-other in a way others didn't, but they were also kindred spirits as godlike men alienated from humanity. Tony even noted how Alana telling Hayes Bellamy Max's secrets was like how he himself had his secret identity as Dan Hartigan get outed by her to their coworkers.

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** On another level, it's possible that Tony not only figured out that for all their bad blood he and Max understood each-other in a way others didn't, but they were also kindred spirits as godlike men alienated from humanity. Tony even noted how Alana telling Hayes Bellamy Max's secrets of Max was like how he himself had his secret identity as Dan Hartigan get outed by her to their coworkers.
7th Dec '16 11:29:33 PM Maljen
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** On another level, it's possible that Tony not only figured out that for all their bad blood he and Max understood each-other in a way others didn't, but they were also kindred spirits as godlike men alienated from humanity. Tony even noted how Alana telling Hayes Bellamy Max's secrets was like how he himself had his secret identity as Dan Hartigan get outed by her to their coworkers.
26th Nov '16 6:13:37 PM SkeletalPumpkin
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks. Basically Max is a hero despite acknowledging his flaws while Tony is a hero to deny his own.
* FridgeBrilliance: Why does the Plutonian agree to leave Coalville alone out of respect for Max Damage? As noted under the Heartwarming entry, Max's sincere gratitude to the Plutonian is perhaps the one thing that can move Tony. All of the ungrateful masses muttering behind his back and its one of his most hated enemies that can genuinely say "thank you" to him. Its all Tony ever wanted.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks. Basically Max is a hero despite acknowledging his flaws while Tony is a hero villain to deny his own.
* FridgeBrilliance: Why does the Plutonian agree to leave Coalville alone out of respect for Max Damage? As noted under the Heartwarming entry, Max's sincere gratitude to the Plutonian is perhaps the one thing that can move Tony. All of the ungrateful masses muttering behind his back and its one of his most hated enemies that can genuinely say "thank you" to him. Its It's all Tony ever wanted.
31st Dec '14 1:32:40 PM Mechamorph
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why does the Plutonian agree to leave Coalville alone out of respect for Max Damage? As noted under the Heartwarming entry, Max's sincere gratitude to the Plutonian is perhaps the one thing that can move Tony. All of the ungrateful masses muttering behind his back and its one of his most hated enemies that can genuinely say "thank you" to him. Its all Tony ever wanted.
27th Dec '14 10:44:56 AM Mechamorph
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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Why is Max Damage Incorruptible? Because one of the primary recurring themes of Irredeemable is that part of being a hero is accepting that not everyone will always appreciate what you do or trust you for it, especially when you inevitably make a mistake. Since Max was originally a villain, he already expects people not to trust him and so is emotionally prepared for rejection the way the Plutonian [[spoiler:and Cary]] aren't. He's not incorruptible because he's striving to be morally perfect, he's incorruptible because he has the trait of real heroism that the Plutonian lacks. Basically Max is a hero despite acknowledging his flaws while Tony is a hero to deny his own.
5th Jun '14 5:01:40 PM KingClark
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** Modeus knew what was coming, and planned for it by hiding out in Samsara. He told nobody, and allowed Samsara's innocence to shatter and abused Tony's paternal feelings for the boy, because Modeus thought this would help [[UnholyMatrimony Tony to return his affection.]]
* FridgeLogic: Those things might have helped ''a bit'' in fighting The Plutonian, but remember that The Plutonian has always been Max's archnemesis, so if there was anything in there that was really capable of hurting him, it would have been used already.

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** Modeus knew what was coming, and planned for it by hiding out in Samsara. He told nobody, and allowed Samsara's innocence to shatter and abused Tony's paternal feelings for the boy, because Modeus thought this would help [[UnholyMatrimony Tony to return his affection.]]
* FridgeLogic: Those things might have helped ''a bit'' in fighting The Plutonian, but remember that The Plutonian has always been Max's archnemesis, so if there was anything in there that was really capable of hurting him, it would have been used already.
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