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5th Sep '17 1:24:55 AM NDSTFD
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* Unknown if planned by Dumbledore, but all the Canon!Trio's "standard" solutions for the Third-floor corridor obstacles seem to resemble Quirrellmort's specific talents! He would do great against Fluffy, because he has mastered to sing a lullaby, as seen in Hermione's trial arc. He could pass through Devil's Snare by relaxing, as he was trained to lose in an Asian monastery. He could catch a flying key, as he enchanted his bones. He could win a chess game as he had the outstanding mind of the strategist. He would have easily defeated a boggart as he was a Defence professor, familiar with Riddikulus charm. And then there was a potion room, containing a riddle.
22nd Aug '17 12:40:23 AM MicoolTNT
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** This one also has additional explanations in [=MoR=]-canon:
-->'''Quirrel:''' I will tell you what does not hold my interest... Grading Ministry-mandated essays does not hold my interest, Mr. Potter. But I have undertaken the position of Defense Professor at Hogwarts, and I will see it through to its end.
** Quirrelmort is pretty much an [[spoiler: immortal]] Nietzschean {{Ubermensch}}. Until he [[spoiler: hears a prophecy he does not like]] and [[spoiler: resolves to tear it apart at every possible point of intervention]], he's pretty much just doing stuff [[ItAmusedMe for shiggles]], because he ''chooses'' to (and to [[spoiler: mentor his young apprentice/younger self]]).
*** And even after that, Hogwarts is the ''place to be'' to do so, since it lets him [[spoiler: be close to Harry]] and [[spoiler: be - physically - in the ''best possible place'' to intervene if he tries doing anything stupid, as well as to ''see it coming'' by ''interacting with him'' on a nearly day-to-day basis.]] Remember, you can't apparate into Hogwarts...
** He may have the overarching goal of [[spoiler: preventing the Muggles from ruining the world]], but that's pretty much [[ItAmusedMe his whim]], he's doing it because [[TheUnfettered he needed a new goal to pursue]] (and it "seemed an ambition of suitable scope") and [[ItsAllAboutMe out of self-interest to keep the world less boring for himself,]] he [[AvertedTrope has no]] [[TheFettered genuine moral commitment]] to it. As such, it's perfectly in-character for him to take a year out from working (directly) at that to teach at Hogwarts.
** Also, just about ''everything he does'' as a Professor ''does'' further that goal - [[spoiler:mentoring Harry]] does so since [[spoiler:having Harry as his delegate and FriendlyEnemy or ally]] will increase his effectiveness, at the very least by freeing up his time from [[spoiler: ruling Britain]]. Teaching ''effective'' Battle Magic, as well as various other thinking skills, proactivity, ''and'' how to ''effectively'' fight in an army also ''increases the combat-readiness'' of his students, to fight [[spoiler: the Muggles]], as [[TheCynic Quirrel]] believes they will have to. He is also ''preparing them'' to ''accept the leadership of Harry and/or Draco''. So by that logic, teaching at Hogwarts is an investment in the future. [[spoiler: He also, of course, wanted the Philosopher's Stone.]]
** The bloke's also known for the effectiveness and thoroughness with which he plays roles, and unlike canon, his patience. He's chosen to take on the role of Hogwarts Defence Professor, and so:
-->'''Professor Quirrel:''' Not everyone who teaches here has been the best, but the best have all taught at Hogwarts. In such august company, and after so much time anticipating this day, I would be ashamed to set myself any standard lower than perfection. And so I do intend that every one of you will always remember this year as the best Defence class that you have ever had.
8th Jul '17 9:24:59 PM billybobfred
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* In chapter 89 when [[spoiler: Hermione dies, she says "not your fault". At first you might think she is talking about not saving her the troll fast enough, but it is actually about the syringe he use on her. Its function to treat a poison area by '''slowing blood in and out of the area''' While keeping it alive. By putting it into her neck, he cut off the blood flow to her head.]]
** Nice theory but completely wrong because [[spoiler: the syringe Harry used didn't just reduce circulation, it also kept the blood oxygenated. That was the entire reason Harry used it, to keep oxygen going to her brain. Harry has been shown time and time again to be way too smart to make the kind of error you think he did. Furthermore it's not revealed that Hermione knows the details of his kit well enough to forgive a possible misuse of the syringe since she didn't know the effects.]]
* In chapter 6 when Professor [=McGonagall=] asked Harry [[spoiler:what sort of contingency that Harry needs a Emergency Healing Pack Plus for, he replied "One of my classmates gets bitten by a horrible monster..." This was proved to be {{Tempting Fate}} with what happened to Hermione.]] What's worse is, [[spoiler:Harry's point was to be well-prepared, and indeed Hermione would likely have died of blood loss if he hadn't had the healing pack, but with the revelation of a horror above, the direct cause of her death was brain hypoxia caused by ''Harry using the healing pack'' (wrongly).]]
** [[spoiler:Except not, because he used it correctly.]]
16th Dec '16 8:48:05 PM JesterDongle
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** Nice theory but completely wrong because [[spoiler: the syringe Harry used didn't just reduce circulation, it also kept the blood oxygenated. That was the entire reason Harry used it, to keep oxygen going to her brain. Harry has been shown time and time again to be way too smart to make the kind of error you think he did. Furthermore it's not revealed that Hermione knows the details of his kit well enough to forgive a possible misuse of the syringe since she didn't know the effects.]]


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**[[spoiler:Except not, because he used it correctly.]]
25th Nov '16 5:29:53 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* In chapter 18, Snape correctly answers Harry's question on how many valence electrons a carbon atom has. Why would a wizard know this relatively obscure bit of information? Oh right, [[spoiler:he's a Legilimens!]]
** Or a Muggleborn. Half-blood Prince, remember? He could easily have read that out of a textbook and remembered it.

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* There are several Omakes on other ways Harry's Sorting could have gone. They all seem rather silly until you remember how that Hat works according to HPMOR: [[spoiler: it borrows intelligence and memory from the wearer]]. Those things definitely sounded like [[spoiler: the king of pranks Harry would do. The "Headmaster" thing instead reflects his egomania rather than his questionable humor.]]
* In chapter 18, Snape correctly answers Harry's question on how many valence electrons a carbon atom has. Why would a wizard know this relatively obscure bit of information? Oh right, [[spoiler:he's a Legilimens!]]
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Legilimens!]] (Or a Muggleborn. Half-blood Prince, remember? He could easily have read that out of a textbook and remembered it.)
6th Nov '16 1:35:48 AM Ymirsdaughter
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* The "DO NOT MESS WITH TIME" note must have come from a Harry who created a different timeline and experienced something horrifying.
5th Nov '16 8:37:29 PM Schismatism
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* [[StableTimeLoop 'DO NOT MESS WITH TIME'.]] Why is this the end result of any attempts at causing a paradox? Because in order to resolve it, the universe - and by extension the Time-Turner - is trying to determine the ''simplest'' way of creating such a stable loop, without computing a thousand different results first.
5th Oct '16 5:28:59 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* Moody thinks rather than using a trapped Triwizard Trophy to teleport a victim (with a completely pointless return charm on it), an intelligent dark wizard would have someone simply toss the target a trapped Knut on their next visit to town. Quirrel used this exact method to take Harry to Diagon Alley (albeit consensually) earlier in the story, making this a call back (and reminder of Methods!Quirrel's [[GenreSavvy genre-saviness]] compared to canon Voldemort).

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* Moody thinks rather than using a trapped Triwizard Trophy to teleport a victim (with a completely pointless return charm on it), an intelligent dark wizard would have someone simply toss the target a trapped Knut on their next visit to town. Quirrel used this exact method to take Harry to Diagon Alley (albeit consensually) earlier in the story, making this a call back (and reminder of Methods!Quirrel's [[GenreSavvy genre-saviness]] intelligence compared to canon Voldemort).
16th Jun '16 6:48:22 PM MicoolTNT
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** Or a Muggleborn. Half-blood Prince, remember? He could easily have read that out of a textbook and remembered it.
9th Jun '16 9:40:44 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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* In the story, We learn that "normal" patronuses [[spoiler: are reflections of the casters' not thinking about Death]]. Now, Dumbledore has a phoenix patronus. Why is that? [[spoiler: Dumbledore's way of escaping death is that he strongly believes in an afterlife… and the Phoenix (a being who is reborn whenever he dies) is a metaphor for that]].



* Crosses with FridgeHorror, in Chapter 103, Quirrel gives [[spoiler:Hermione a D on a Ministry exam, and laments that he would have given her a lower grade, but that would have been "in poor taste".]] Considering how, in canon, the only [[spoiler: grade lower than a D is a T... for ''troll''...]]

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* Crosses with FridgeHorror, in Chapter 103, Quirrel gives [[spoiler:Hermione a D on a Ministry exam, and laments that he would have given her a lower grade, but that would have been "in poor taste".]] taste"]]. Considering how, in canon, the only [[spoiler: grade lower than a D is a T... for ''troll''...]]
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