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** In particular, Walter characterizing himself as "the Candyman" reflects not only his sweet tooth and childish nature, but his desperate desire to "make the world taste good" by fixing it. This has particular relevance to [[spoiler: his abduction of Peter from the Other Side, which was his own attempt to right a tragedy but ended up having disastrous consequences.]]

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** In particular, Walter characterizing himself as "the Candyman" Candy Man" reflects not only his sweet tooth and childish nature, but his desperate desire to "make the world taste good" by fixing it. This has particular relevance to [[spoiler: his abduction of Peter from the Other Side, which was his own attempt to right a tragedy but ended up having disastrous consequences.]]
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** In particular, Walter characterizing himself as "the Candyman" reflects not only his sweet tooth and childish nature, but his desperate desire to "make the world taste good" by fixing it. This has particular relevance to [[spoiler: his abduction of Peter from the Other Side, which was his own attempt to right a tragedy but ended up having disastrous consequences.]]
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* One thing I realized about the alt-verse some time ago: Their Statue of Liberty is brown-gold, that, like the Red Lantern exampe above, could be easily mistaken as just a one-off quirkiness. But then again, our own Miss Liberty was that same color in its early days, only acquiring its verdigris crust over time. So, it's easy to assume that, since the alt-verse's technology is higher in a bunch of aspects, they had at the time some way to keep the statue's original coloring, or at least recover it at some point.

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* One thing I realized about the alt-verse some time ago: Their Statue of Liberty Art/StatueOfLiberty is brown-gold, that, like the Red Lantern exampe above, could be easily mistaken as just a one-off quirkiness. But then again, our own Miss Liberty was that same color in its early days, only acquiring its verdigris crust over time. So, it's easy to assume that, since the alt-verse's technology is higher in a bunch of aspects, they had at the time some way to keep the statue's original coloring, or at least recover it at some point.
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that is not remotely what is happening in that episode. he's not intercepting the past, he's duplicating it - so nothing would change for past him. also, at the start of every loop he tells his wife he's already taken the pills and doesn't need to be reminded


* The Season 4 episode, "And Those We've Left Behind." I recall that Raymond was taking some sort of medication, but Kate, his wife, would have to remind him to take it, as he supposedly forgot every time. He would apparantly forget the reminders too. But of course he would be unable to reminder these reminders, for he never recieved them, and wouldn't for at least a few years... For each time we see Kate reminding Raymond to take his medication, she was actually talking to Raymond's future self. Raymond was intercepting his own reminders!
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* Episode 15 of season 2 (Jacksonville) starts with a man holding a cup of coffee, only for a colleague to ask where it came from, which might have seemed odd until you watch the episode (Making Angels) in season 4 where otherworld Astrid states that coffee is exceedingly rare on their side. It's interesting to think that the audience was given a quick preview of the alternate world and may not have even realised it.
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* There's a brief moment in the Season 2 finale when we get a look at some of the comic books that are popular in the Alternate Universe, and we see that Denny O'Neill's ''"GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow"'' is called "'''''Red''''' ''Lantern and'' '''''Red''''' ''Arrow''" in this world. At first glance, the color swap appears to be a one-off joke. In RealLife, though, comic book writer Martin Nodell got the idea for GreenLantern after he went to a train station and saw an engineer [[LineOfSightName using a green lantern and a red lantern to signal to trains when to run and when to stop]]. [[TruthInTelevision So there was, in fact, a pretty good chance that the famous superhero could have ended up being called "Red Lantern" in our world too]].

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* There's a brief moment in the Season 2 finale when we get a look at some of the comic books that are popular in the Alternate Universe, and we see that Denny O'Neill's ''"GreenLantern ''"ComicBook/GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow"'' is called "'''''Red''''' ''Lantern and'' '''''Red''''' ''Arrow''" in this world. At first glance, the color swap appears to be a one-off joke. In RealLife, though, comic book writer Martin Nodell got the idea for GreenLantern Green Lantern after he went to a train station and saw an engineer [[LineOfSightName using a green lantern and a red lantern to signal to trains when to run and when to stop]]. [[TruthInTelevision So there was, in fact, a pretty good chance that the famous superhero could have ended up being called "Red Lantern" in our world too]].
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* We first encounter Amber in the third episode, "The Ghost Network", in which [[VillainOfTheWeek Matthew Ziegler]] releases it on a commuter bus, killing eleven people. Later in the series, though, we learn that people trapped in Amber are actually in some sort of biological stasis ([[{{Handwave}} ...somehow]]) and can be revived, provided it's done more or less immediately after they're extracted -- meaning the Fringe team could have saved all those people if only they'd known. Indeed, you could even go so far as to say it wasn't actually Ziegler that killed those people -- the Fringe team themselves unknowingly did so when they extracted them from the Amber.
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** It could possibly mean that the green Statue of Liberty was destroyed (through terrorism or a Fringe event), and the Statue was recently rebuilt.
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* The First season episode "Bad Dreams" (S1, E17) shows the victim [[EveryoneIsJesusInPurgatory Risa Pears with three balloons on her stroller.]] Blue, red, and amber. After seeing the entire Fringe series up to season 4, you may realize that these colors can be tied to the color codes of the main universe, [[AlternateUniverse alternate universe]], and [[TimeTravel alternate timeline]] of both universes respectively. Perhaps {{foreshadowing}}?

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* This troper isn't finished with season 3 yet, but the fact that [[spoiler: Peter appears to Olivia while she believes she's Fauxlivia. At first this Troper thought it didn't make much sense, and it implied Olivia needed Peter to save her--but it actually works. Fauxlivia would only consider seeing Olivia a sign of raging insanity because Olivia was her enemy. Peter is more neutral and thus a far more credible source of information.]]



***** Walter also lost Peter at relatively the same time. "Subject 13" happened at roughly the same time Peter crossed over. During the episode, he's still dealing with the changes from crossing universes. If Peter died at Reiden Lake when Peter and Walter crossed over, then Subject 13 never happens because Walter is recovering from losing not one, but ''two'' Peters.

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***** *** Walter also lost Peter at relatively the same time. "Subject 13" happened at roughly the same time Peter crossed over. During the episode, he's still dealing with the changes from crossing universes. If Peter died at Reiden Lake when Peter and Walter crossed over, then Subject 13 never happens because Walter is recovering from losing not one, but ''two'' Peters.



* That the Observers were all white men always bothered this troper a bit, but she wrote it off because they also never struck her as quite human. When their greater nature is revealed in Letters of Transit, this troper wondered if maybe this lack of diversity should not have been a handwave, but a subtle clue. That there were so many allusions to Casablanca and the Nazis in the episode confirmed this in her mind, and now the Observers always seem downright Aryan to her.



** This editor saw it as suggesting their Statue of Liberty is [[ReplacementGoldfish new]], having been replaced after 9/11 saw it destroyed, taking the plane intended for the World Trade Center either [[SmashTheSymbol intentionally]] or [[Film/{{United 93}} unintentionally.]] The latter more likely, since the plane that crashed in a field in our world made it all the way to the White House over there.
*** I thought it was because they have better technology and were thus able to prevent it from developing in the first place.



* Upon analyzing a few elements of the story, the Observers' origins and powers, and September's explanation to Peter, this troper has reached a terrifying, but enlightening conclusion: The Observers are [[spoiler: the ultimate Bigger Bad of the story in more ways than one. If one analyzes the Vaccum DoomsdayDevice, they will see that the glyphs on it match some of the Observers' language symbols, and its design seems exactly the same as many of their tools. While it's stated that Walter created the machine and sent it back in time, he had no way of creating it with modern technology, even if he is a genius, as there's no technology in either universe that could cause the destruction the machine does, but the Observers have that technology, as well as the technology to travel back in time. They are the real creators of the machine. But that's just the tip of the iceberg, read below.]]
*** [[spoiler: I also became quite suspicious of the Observers' BlueAndOrangeMorality regarding watching but not changing the past and the future, but seeming determined to ensure Peter stops the war between the universers, only to erase him from existence later. When September said that the Observers are "one of the many possible futures of mankind", I had the ultimate, horrifying realization: the Observers are a temporal paradox. [[TimeyWimeyBall By creating the means to travel back in time, they became an unstable anomaly in the time line, as they exist, but at the same time may not exist due to destiny not being written in stone. Their efforts are not just to understand humanity's history, but shape it in order to ensure that their future is the only possible one]](If there's no such thing as destiny, then basically ANY SMALL THING could erase their future, which is why they got so tense when July saved a random girl). When September stopped Walternate from healing Peter, he created a series of events that would cause the destruction of both universes, destroying the Observers' existence completely. As [[IncrediblyLamePun observed]] with Walter saving Peter and September saving them and later Peter's erasing from existence, [[ButterflyOfDoom any small change creates a new set of events, however odd and seemingly unrelated to that particular change]]. But they also wanted to make sure than when they colonized the Blue Universe, the Red Universe wouldn't be able to help, [[XanatosSpeedChess so they erased Peter from story to create yet another series of events that would lead the shutting down of the Machine and closing the bridge between universes, as well as permanently stopping William Bell and ZFT from trying to create a new universe in which the Observers couldn't possibly exist]]. This is also why the Commander in the finale doesn't want Windmark trying to go back in time to erase the Fringe Team: If they did that, all their XanatosGambit would be nullified, and they would risk William Bell trying to destroy the universes again or creating another timeline where they once again aren't sure to exist. It's also possible that Walter and Massive Dynamic's scientific experiments were the prelude to the creation of the Observers. It's all WildMassGuessing of my part, but it also fills in most of the plot holes and unanswered questions. The whole story was the Observers trying to create a StableTimeLoop to preserve their existence.]]



*** [[spoiler: Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient. They're basically trying to create a StableTimeLoop that ensures their victory and survival, at the expense of mankind.]]
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** Of course it could also be suggestive of the darker world that is the alternate universe. A Red Ring's power is fuelled by rage rather than willpower and essentially makes the wearer a lethal warrior. Significantly, the rage must be rage motivated by personal loss, an allusion to the more dangerous world that the universe is.

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** Of course it could also be suggestive of the darker world that is the alternate universe. A Red Ring's power is fuelled by rage rather than willpower and essentially makes the wearer a lethal warrior. Significantly, the rage must be rage motivated by personal loss, an allusion to the more dangerous world that the universe is.is,[[spoiler: just because Walter lost his son]]
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* There's a brief moment in the Season 2 finale when we get a look at some of the comic books that are popular in the Alternate Universe, and we see that Denny O'Neill's ''"GreenLantern and GreenArrow"'' is called "'''''Red''''' ''Lantern and'' '''''Red''''' ''Arrow''" in this world. At first glance, the color swap appears to be a one-off joke. In RealLife, though, comic book writer Martin Nodell got the idea for GreenLantern after he went to a train station and saw an engineer [[LineOfSightName using a green lantern and a red lantern to signal to trains when to run and when to stop]]. [[TruthInTelevision So there was, in fact, a pretty good chance that the famous superhero could have ended up being called "Red Lantern" in our world too]].

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* There's a brief moment in the Season 2 finale when we get a look at some of the comic books that are popular in the Alternate Universe, and we see that Denny O'Neill's ''"GreenLantern and GreenArrow"'' ComicBook/GreenArrow"'' is called "'''''Red''''' ''Lantern and'' '''''Red''''' ''Arrow''" in this world. At first glance, the color swap appears to be a one-off joke. In RealLife, though, comic book writer Martin Nodell got the idea for GreenLantern after he went to a train station and saw an engineer [[LineOfSightName using a green lantern and a red lantern to signal to trains when to run and when to stop]]. [[TruthInTelevision So there was, in fact, a pretty good chance that the famous superhero could have ended up being called "Red Lantern" in our world too]].
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\n* At the end of Season 2, one of the first concrete details we get about American society in the AlternateUniverse is that Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. is depicted on the $20 bill. It seems like a logical choice, since he's a revered historical figure in our world as well, but it's also significant that he's replacing UsefulNotes/AndrewJackson, of all people. In the last few decades, there's been some controversy about the appropriateness of putting Jackson on official American currency because of his role in passing the Indian Removal Act, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of Native Americans. Replacing ''his'' image with that of the most famous Civil Rights activist in American history is a convenient way to show that Fauxlivia and company live in a more progressive society than we do.

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* The entire episode of "Brown Betty" in ''{{Fringe}}''. At first glance, this episode may appear to be funny and a bit out there (which makes sense seeing as the majority of the episode is a story that Walter is telling Ella while he is high). But if you penetrate the subtext his bizarre story is actually very close to home.

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* The entire episode of "Brown Betty" in ''{{Fringe}}''.''{{Series/Fringe}}''. At first glance, this episode may appear to be funny and a bit out there (which makes sense seeing as the majority of the episode is a story that Walter is telling Ella while he is high). But if you penetrate the subtext his bizarre story is actually very close to home.
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* When you think about what the people on board the container ships have signed up for ([[spoiler:they have mutated into new creatures to populate the new world]]), when you start to think about it, it really is quite horrible. [[spoiler:There is no indication that there is any animal life being created other than them for this new world, and so for them to survive as species, they will all need to have their own place on the new food chain. When they signed up, did they know that a lot of them will be eaten by other members of this cult?]]

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* When you think about what the people on board the container ships have signed up for ([[spoiler:they have mutated into new creatures to populate the new world]]), when you start to think about it, world]]) it really is quite horrible. [[spoiler:There is no indication that there is any animal life being created other than them for this new world, and so for them to survive as species, they will all need to have their own place on the new food chain. When they signed up, did they know that a lot of them will be eaten by other members of this cult?]]cult?]]
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* When you think about what the people on board the container ships have signed up for ([[spoiler:they have mutated into new creatures to populate the new world]]), when you start to think about it, it really is quite horrible. [[spoiler:There is no indication that there is any animal life being created other than them for this new world, and so for them to survive as species, they will all need to have their own place on the new food chain. When they signed up, did they know that a lot of them will be eaten by other members of this cult?]]
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* Obviously detonating antimatter in the shipping lane wouldn't shut down their operation, because even if the opening in the future got blown to bits, as soon as it was fixed they could continue sending materials to that exact same point in time in the past.
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** This editor saw it as suggesting their Statue of Liberty is [[ReplacementGoldfish new]], having been replaced after 9/11 saw it destroyed, taking the plane intended for the World Trade Center either [[SmashTheSymbol intentionally]] or [[{{United93}} unintentionally.]] The latter more likely, since the plane that crashed in a field in our world made it all the way to the White House over there.

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** This editor saw it as suggesting their Statue of Liberty is [[ReplacementGoldfish new]], having been replaced after 9/11 saw it destroyed, taking the plane intended for the World Trade Center either [[SmashTheSymbol intentionally]] or [[{{United93}} [[Film/{{United 93}} unintentionally.]] The latter more likely, since the plane that crashed in a field in our world made it all the way to the White House over there.
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* Upon entering in Bell's safeplace, Walter stumbles upon a vinyl disc that Bell stole from him, said disc is David Bowie's The Man Who Sold The World. The lyrics for that particular song ([[MindScrew in one interpretation]]) talk about two men in a journey of self-discovery and what they found there, a perfect epithomy of Bell's and Walter's friendship.

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* Upon entering in Bell's safeplace, Walter stumbles upon a vinyl disc that Bell stole from him, him; said disc is David Bowie's The Man Who Sold The World. Music/DavidBowie's ''Music/TheManWhoSoldTheWorld''. The lyrics for the TitleTrack of that particular song album ([[MindScrew in one interpretation]]) talk about two men in a journey of self-discovery and what they found there, a perfect epithomy epitome of Bell's and Walter's friendship.
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* Edwin sacrifices his life to help the Fringe team to defeat the Observers so that his son River will have the possibility of a better world, right? Except that the plan all along was to stop the Observer invasion in the first place, preventing that timeline from ever coming into being. Edwin only really manages to prevent his son from ever existing.
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* [[spoiler: The Observers may have never invaded their own universe in season 5. It's possible that they were created in the Red Universe, consider: In season 3's The Plateau scientists create a drug that allows vast intellect that eventually erodes emotion altogether and the Observers, while spending a decent amount of time in the Redverse, don't interfere there nearly as much as they do in the Blueverse - they don't want to mess with the events that will lead to them being created in the Redverse. at the end of season 5 Walter and Michael may very well be going to the future of the Redverse, not the Blue one. The Redverses future may have a different but similar version of the drug we see in The Plateau. ]]
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*** [[spoiler: Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient. They're basically trying to create a StableTimeLoop that ensures their victory and survival, at the expense of mankind.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient. They're basically trying to create a StableTimeLoop that ensures their victory and survival, at the expense of mankind.]]]]
* The Observer's plans in season 4 don't make too much sense. Because they polluted and ruined the planet of their future timeline beyond repair, they went and colonized the past timeline before the environmental destruction occurred. However, they haven't stopped using the same methods to turn the past timeline into a replica of the previous one they inhabited in 2609, which was precisely the reason they invaded the past in the first place. That alone suggests a crippling lack of foresight, since it is only a matter of time before they eventually destroy the environment of the timeline in 2015 like what was done to their previous future. And this coming from beings who are supposed to be genetically engineered into super intelligence.
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* In the first season episode "Inner Child", Peter brings the bald child the Roadblock action figure from G.I. Joe. "Funny, I remember his scar being on the other side." [[spoiler:In the alternate universe where Peter grew up, it probably was.]]
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*** I thought it was because they have better technology and were thus able to prevent it from developing in the first place.
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* Remember that mystery guy on the zeppelin from Olivia's subconscious, and how Olivia said at the end of the episode ""...But, I think he's the man who's gonna kill me." Well, [[spoiler: the image on his shirt is the same image that appears William Bell's nanites at the end of season 4, and Bell was indirectly responsible for killing Olivia then.]]

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* Remember that mystery guy on the zeppelin from Olivia's subconscious, and how Olivia said at the end of the episode ""...But, I think he's the man who's gonna kill me." Well, [[spoiler: the [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120519163740/fringe/images/3/33/Fringe_lsd_manx.jpg image on his shirt shirt]] is the same image that appears on [[http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7e8zgudeC1r1qut1.jpg William Bell's nanites nanites]] at the end of season 4, and Bell was indirectly responsible for killing Olivia then.]]
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*Remember that mystery guy on the zeppelin from Olivia's subconscious, and how Olivia said at the end of the episode ""...But, I think he's the man who's gonna kill me." Well, [[spoiler: the image on his shirt is the same image that appears William Bell's nanites at the end of season 4, and Bell was indirectly responsible for killing Olivia then.]]
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* Upon analyzing a few elements of the story, the Observers' history and September's explanation to Peter, this troper has reached a terrifying, but enlightening conclusion: The Observers are [[spoiler: the ultimate Bigger Bad of the story in more ways than one. If one analyzes the Vaccum DoomdsayDevice, they will see that the glyphs in it match some of the Observers' language symbols. While it's stated that Walter created the machine and sent it back in time, he had no way of creating it with modern technology, even if he is a genius, as there's no technology in either universe that could cause the destruction the machine does, but the Observers have that technology, as well as the technology to travel back in time. They are the real creators of the machine. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.]]
*** [[spoiler: I also became quite suspicious of the Observers' BlueAndOrangeMorality regarding changing the past and the future, but seeming determined to ensure Peter stops the war between the universers, only to erase him from existence later. When September said that the Observers are "one of the many possible futures of mankind", I had the ultimate realization: the Observers are a paradox ClockRoaches. [[TimeyWimeyBall By creating the means to travel back in time, they became an unstable anomaly. Their efforts are not just to understand humanity's history, but shape it in order to ensure that their future is the only possible one]](If there's no such thing as destiny, then basically ANY SMALL THING could erase their future, which is why they got so tense when July saved a random girl). When September stopped Walternate from healing Peter, he created a series of events that would cause the destruction of both universes, destroying the Observers' existence completely. But they also wanted to make sure than when they colonized the Blue Universe, the Red Universe wouldn't be able to help, so they erased Peter from story to create yet another series of events that would lead the shutting down of the Machine and closing the bridge between universes, as well as permanently stopping William Bell and ZFT from trying to create a new universe in which the Observers couldn't possibly exist. This is also why the Commander in the finale doesn't want Windmark trying to go back in time to erase the Fringe Team: If they did that, all their XanatosGambits would be nullified, and they would risk William Bell trying to destroy the universes again. It's also possible that Walter and Massive Dynamic's scientific experiments were the prelude to the creation of the Observers. It's all WildMassGuessing of my part, but it also fills in all the plot holes and unanswered questions. The whole story was the Observers trying to ensure their future.]]

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* Upon analyzing a few elements of the story, the Observers' history origins and powers, and September's explanation to Peter, this troper has reached a terrifying, but enlightening conclusion: The Observers are [[spoiler: the ultimate Bigger Bad of the story in more ways than one. If one analyzes the Vaccum DoomdsayDevice, DoomsdayDevice, they will see that the glyphs in on it match some of the Observers' language symbols.symbols, and its design seems exactly the same as many of their tools. While it's stated that Walter created the machine and sent it back in time, he had no way of creating it with modern technology, even if he is a genius, as there's no technology in either universe that could cause the destruction the machine does, but the Observers have that technology, as well as the technology to travel back in time. They are the real creators of the machine. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.iceberg, read below.]]
*** [[spoiler: I also became quite suspicious of the Observers' BlueAndOrangeMorality regarding watching but not changing the past and the future, but seeming determined to ensure Peter stops the war between the universers, only to erase him from existence later. When September said that the Observers are "one of the many possible futures of mankind", I had the ultimate ultimate, horrifying realization: the Observers are a paradox ClockRoaches. temporal paradox. [[TimeyWimeyBall By creating the means to travel back in time, they became an unstable anomaly.anomaly in the time line, as they exist, but at the same time may not exist due to destiny not being written in stone. Their efforts are not just to understand humanity's history, but shape it in order to ensure that their future is the only possible one]](If there's no such thing as destiny, then basically ANY SMALL THING could erase their future, which is why they got so tense when July saved a random girl). When September stopped Walternate from healing Peter, he created a series of events that would cause the destruction of both universes, destroying the Observers' existence completely. As [[IncrediblyLamePun observed]] with Walter saving Peter and September saving them and later Peter's erasing from existence, [[ButterflyOfDoom any small change creates a new set of events, however odd and seemingly unrelated to that particular change]]. But they also wanted to make sure than when they colonized the Blue Universe, the Red Universe wouldn't be able to help, [[XanatosSpeedChess so they erased Peter from story to create yet another series of events that would lead the shutting down of the Machine and closing the bridge between universes, as well as permanently stopping William Bell and ZFT from trying to create a new universe in which the Observers couldn't possibly exist. exist]]. This is also why the Commander in the finale doesn't want Windmark trying to go back in time to erase the Fringe Team: If they did that, all their XanatosGambits XanatosGambit would be nullified, and they would risk William Bell trying to destroy the universes again.again or creating another timeline where they once again aren't sure to exist. It's also possible that Walter and Massive Dynamic's scientific experiments were the prelude to the creation of the Observers. It's all WildMassGuessing of my part, but it also fills in all most of the plot holes and unanswered questions. The whole story was the Observers trying to ensure create a StableTimeLoop to preserve their future.existence.]]
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*** Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient.

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*** [[spoiler: Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient. They're basically trying to create a StableTimeLoop that ensures their victory and survival, at the expense of mankind.]]

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* Upon analyzing a few elements of the story, the Observers' history and September's explanation to Peter, this troper has reached a terrifying, but enlightening conclusion: The Observers are [[spoiler: the ultimate Bigger Bad of the story in more ways than one. If one analyzes the Vaccum DoomdsayDevice, they will see that the glyphs in it match some of the Observers' language symbols. While it's stated that Walter created the machine and sent it back in time, he had no way of creating it with modern technology, even if he is a genius, as there's no technology in either universe that could cause the destruction the machine does, but the Observers have that technology, as well as the technology to travel back in time. They are the real creators of the machine. But that's just the tip of the iceberg.]]
*** [[spoiler: I also became quite suspicious of the Observers' BlueAndOrangeMorality regarding changing the past and the future, but seeming determined to ensure Peter stops the war between the universers, only to erase him from existence later. When September said that the Observers are "one of the many possible futures of mankind", I had the ultimate realization: the Observers are a paradox ClockRoaches. [[TimeyWimeyBall By creating the means to travel back in time, they became an unstable anomaly. Their efforts are not just to understand humanity's history, but shape it in order to ensure that their future is the only possible one]](If there's no such thing as destiny, then basically ANY SMALL THING could erase their future, which is why they got so tense when July saved a random girl). When September stopped Walternate from healing Peter, he created a series of events that would cause the destruction of both universes, destroying the Observers' existence completely. But they also wanted to make sure than when they colonized the Blue Universe, the Red Universe wouldn't be able to help, so they erased Peter from story to create yet another series of events that would lead the shutting down of the Machine and closing the bridge between universes, as well as permanently stopping William Bell and ZFT from trying to create a new universe in which the Observers couldn't possibly exist. This is also why the Commander in the finale doesn't want Windmark trying to go back in time to erase the Fringe Team: If they did that, all their XanatosGambits would be nullified, and they would risk William Bell trying to destroy the universes again. It's also possible that Walter and Massive Dynamic's scientific experiments were the prelude to the creation of the Observers. It's all WildMassGuessing of my part, but it also fills in all the plot holes and unanswered questions. The whole story was the Observers trying to ensure their future.]]



** September actually said that they are from one future, one of the timelines branching off from now. The one they come from and the one they create by invading the past are probably not the same but existing parallel, so they don't know what will happen in this one.

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** September actually said that they are from one future, one of the timelines branching off from now. The one they come from and the one they create by invading the past are probably not the same but existing parallel, so they don't know what will happen in this one.one.
*** Like this troper explained at FridgeHorror, the Observers are a temporal anomaly, as they created the means to travel through time, but time isn't written in stone, which means it can change and erase their existence depending on the sequence of events. The Observers are not only trying to understand and study human history, but gently directing it to their path. [[ButterflyOFDoom They don't want to risk changing things, which is why they don't like when one of them changes anything, as it can lead to a completely different future]]. Their focus on the Fringe team is due to September's interference with Peter Bishop, which leads to the war between universes and William Bell's plans to try and destroy both universes. They can travel backwards and have psychic powers that allow them to predict certain events, but it doesn't not make them TheOmniscient.
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* At the end of "Making Angels" we meet [[spoiler: Astrid's dad]] - an older man, overweight, unsteady on his feet, and with likely heart and diabetes issues. It's very likely that the two universes are going to match a bit more, very soon.

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