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** Not exactly. Mr. Thurmad and Niomi are considered the captain because they are members of the Savage Chicken's crew, while Kornada was not an actual crew member. Otherwise the Savage Chicken would've taken action to obey Kornada's desires the moment he voiced them, crew or no crew.

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** Not exactly. Mr. Thurmad and Niomi are considered the captain because they are members of the Savage Chicken's crew, crew even if only temporarily, while Kornada was not an actual crew member.member and thus had no authority to be captain. Otherwise the Savage Chicken would've taken action to obey Kornada's desires the moment he voiced them, crew or no crew. Note that the Inspector that entered the ship to inspect it wasn't considered captain just because he was on board either.
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** Not exactly. Mr. Thurmad and Niomi are considered the captain because they are members of the Savage Chicken's crew, while Kornada was not an actual crew member. Otherwise the Savage Chicken would've taken action to obey Kornada's desires the moment he voiced them, crew or no crew.
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* We learn on the voyage to the station that the Savage Chicken considers the seniormost (or only) human on board to be captain. Which means that during their rescue flight in the hurricane, '''Kornada''' was the ship's captain.
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* Likewise, after hearing [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3400/fc03307.htm one of his species' myths]], his plan to give the Sqids a planet starts to look less [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness pure-hearted]] and more like striving for the ultimate fame: [[AGodAmI To become a god himself]].

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* Likewise, after hearing [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3400/fc03307.com/ff3400/fc03306.htm one of about his species' myths]], his plan to give the Sqids a planet starts to look less [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness pure-hearted]] and more like striving for the ultimate fame: [[AGodAmI To become a god himself]].
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* Likewise, after hearing [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3400/fc03307.htm one of his species' myths]], his plan to give the Sqids a planet starts to look less [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness pure-hearted]] and more like striving for the ultimate fame: [[AGodAmI To become a god himself]].
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** Adding to this, once society reached our modern age children living to adulthood is nearly a certainty in first world countries, to say nothing of what it's like 500 years in the future where the comic takes place. If Florence's theory is true, this creates an environment where SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan ends up winning or at least evening out due to it's higher survival rate while also AllGirlsWantBadBoys is no longer held in check by it's abysmal survival rate. This means that AllGirlsWantBadBoys will propagate over the generations much wider than SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan will until the former becomes overwhelmingly the genetic default.

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** Adding to this, once society reached our modern age children living to adulthood is nearly a certainty in first world countries, to say nothing of what it's like 500 years in the future where the comic takes place. If Florence's theory is true, this creates an environment where SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan ends up winning or at least evening ultimately losing out due to it's higher survival rate no longer being true while also AllGirlsWantBadBoys is no longer held in check by it's abysmal survival rate. This means that AllGirlsWantBadBoys will propagate over the generations much wider than SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan will until the former becomes overwhelmingly the genetic default.
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** Adding to this, once society reached our modern age children living to adulthood is nearly a certainty in first world countries, to say nothing of what it's like 500 years in the future where the comic takes place. If Florence's theory is true, this creates an environment where SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan ends up winning or at least evening out due to it's higher survival rate while also AllGirlsWantBadBoys is no longer held in check by it's abysmal survival rate. This means that AllGirlsWantBadBoys will propagate over the generations much wider than SingleWomanSeeksGoodMan will until the former becomes overwhelmingly the genetic default.
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* Capsaicin, the chemical that makes things spicy, is an evolutionary adaptation that specifically targets mammals and leaves other life forms, like birds, unaffected. Since Sam’s race is from a completely different tree of life entirely than earth flora and fauna, it makes sense that he’d be completely unaffected by it.
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** Not only that, the Sqid society simply doesn't have the same propensity for direct violence that humans do, have a surprising competitive instinct, and will steal anything that isn't nailed down AND on fire. Any attempt at widespread slavery would have the Sqid slaves realize they outnumber the guy, GTFO, and end up stealing the overseer's EVERYTHING. Including his skeleton!
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** This is actually supported by the [[https://tinyurl.com/yaf7yrbg Trivers-Willard hypothesis]]; females in poor conditions have more female than male children, while females in comfortable conditions have more male than female children. Thus, the children of comfortable(IE ''wealthy'') parents always have their choice of females to impregnate. In pre-industrial times, that meant the children of ''[[MightMakesRight warlords]]''. And females that submitted to them were more likely to be placed in comfortable conditions to bear males. Feel free to throw up.

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** This is actually supported by the [[https://tinyurl.com/yaf7yrbg Trivers-Willard hypothesis]]; females in poor conditions have more female than male children, while females in comfortable conditions have more male than female children. Thus, the children of comfortable(IE ''wealthy'') parents always have their choice of females to impregnate. In pre-industrial times, that meant the children of ''[[MightMakesRight warlords]]''. And females that submitted to them were more likely to be placed in comfortable conditions to bear males. Feel free to throw up.
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* Sam's aversion to slavery makes a lot of sense given sqid culture. If people are property then they can be stolen and if something can be stolen then a sqid will try to steal it. As such any sort of widespread slavery would be impractical in sqid society since there's no mechanism for returning escaped or stolen slaves. Therefore slavery as a concept wouldn't really catch on the way it did in human societies.
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* Max Post thinks that the [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2500/fc02499.htm question of how something that's not alive be conscious is smart and that claiming 'vampires and ghosts' fit the bill is a dumb answer]]. However, it's actually not as bad as he seems to think. The only problem with the 'vampires and ghosts' answer is that they aren't ''real'' (in this setting anyway), but as a conceptual representation of the issue they are actually a perfect example. It's almost like humanity has been subconsciously pondering the question for a long time.

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** The fact that Sam's species [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01003.htm die when procreating]] ([[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01004.htm and most are sterile anyway]]), also serves to explain his more reckless tendencies. His species has no biological imperative for long-term survival.
* Despite a highly honed sense of self-preservation, Sam enjoys doing things with a high degree of danger and risk. Then we learn that [[OutWithABang mating is fatal]] for his species, those of his species capable of breeding do so young, and [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1900/fc01898.htm no member of his species has died of old age]]. Sam's race effectively has no biological incentive for long-term self-preservation, leading them to take crazy risks in the name of being remembered as they get older.

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** The fact that Sam's species [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01003.htm die when procreating]] ([[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01004.htm and most are sterile anyway]]), also serves to explain his more reckless tendencies. His species has no biological imperative for long-term survival.
* Despite a highly honed sense of self-preservation, Sam enjoys doing things with a high degree of danger and risk. Then we learn that [[OutWithABang mating is fatal]] [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01003.htm for his species, species]], [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01004.htm those of his species capable of breeding do so young, young]], and [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1900/fc01898.htm no member of his species has died of old age]]. Sam's race effectively has no biological incentive for long-term self-preservation, leading them to take crazy risks in the name of being remembered as they get older.
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** The fact that Sam's species [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01003.htm die when procreating]] ([[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff1100/fv01004.htm and most are sterile anyway]]), also serves to explain his more reckless tendencies. His species has no biological imperative for long-term survival.

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* Why is Gardener in the Dark called that? It's a neural pruning program, designed to cut off the proverbial branches in a robotcs brain (hence "Gardener").
** The "in the Dark" half of the name carries a DoubleMeaning: it's meant to do its work discretely and in secret, but also modifies robots' brain structures in a way that is rather stupid (crippling Jean's overwhelmingly-robotic workforce). Hence, it's in the dark both in the sense that it's not meant to be seen, but also in the sense that it works more or less blindly.
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* When Clippy appears before court, he's asked if the plan to give Mr. Kornada all that wealth was the only solution available under those constraints. He replies that no, it wasn't the only one: but it was the plan with ''the highest chance of the planet's survival.'' Clippy had considered and discarded at least two more, and was held back only by his own morals. That one instance differentiates the AIs on Jean from a mere [[https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer paperclip maximizer.]]

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* [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3000/fc02933.htm When Clippy appears before court, court]], he's asked if the plan to give Mr. Kornada all that wealth was the only solution available under those constraints. He replies that no, it wasn't the only one: but it was the plan with ''the highest chance of the planet's survival.'' Clippy had considered and discarded at least two more, and was held back only by his own morals. That one instance differentiates the AIs on Jean from a mere [[https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer paperclip maximizer.]]
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** Said plan involved lobotomizing the entire robot population, which consists of millions of individuals. If this is the best option Clippy could come up with, what did the alternatives consist of?

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** Said plan involved lobotomizing the entire robot population, which consists of millions of individuals. If this is the best option Clippy could come up with, what did the alternatives consist of?of?
** Well, the precise instructions [[http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff3000/fc02922.htm were]]: "Make me the richest person in the system within thirty days.". Someone could be the richest person anywhere if they're the only person, a.k.a killing everyone else would achieve that goal. So would removing the wealth of the people that were richer than him in the system. Or some other way to... redistribute wealth or skew the definition of person.
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** On the subject of ThemeNaming, we also have Qwerty and Dvorak. Qwerty keyboards are standard issue among operating systems, and Qwerty himself is a bit of an everyman, with a basic humanoid design that makes him suited for all-purpose work, and is the not-quite-creative but very grounded half of the duo. Dvorak keyboards were designed with ergonomics in mind, with the specific goal of improving speed by alternating the user's hands while typing; Dvorak himself is described as alternating between ideas and being much more creative than his counterpart.
*** Also, consider this: Qwerty (the convention, not the robot) is named for the first six letters on the top row of the keyboard, while Dvorak (again, the convention) is named for its creator. Of the two, Dvorak (robot) gets much more screentime, and is therefore humanized a fair bit more.

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* The InterspeciesRomance between Winston and Florence can be {{Squick}} to some, but in-universe, it makes sense: [[spoiler: Doctor Bowman]] mentions that Florence's mirror neurons have been re-purposed to make interaction with humans easier. A side effect of this is that she also ends up with a human idea of what's attractive (i.e. another human) and acts accordingly.
** From Winston's side, the fact that his parents are transhumanists (his mother even has a mustache!) means he's not as weirded out by people not looking quite the way they "should" and having close relationships with them. He can just tell himself that Florence is a very heavily modified human (which isn't all that far from the truth).



* When Clippy appears before court, he's asked if the plan to give Mr. Kornada all that wealth was the only solution available under those constraints. He replies that no, it wasn't the only one: but it was the plan with ''the highest chance of the planet's survival.'' Clippy had considered and discarded at least two more, and was held back only by his own morals. That one instance differentiates the AIs on Jean from a mere [[https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer paperclip maximizer.]]

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* When Clippy appears before court, he's asked if the plan to give Mr. Kornada all that wealth was the only solution available under those constraints. He replies that no, it wasn't the only one: but it was the plan with ''the highest chance of the planet's survival.'' Clippy had considered and discarded at least two more, and was held back only by his own morals. That one instance differentiates the AIs on Jean from a mere [[https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Paperclip_maximizer paperclip maximizer.]]]]
** Said plan involved lobotomizing the entire robot population, which consists of millions of individuals. If this is the best option Clippy could come up with, what did the alternatives consist of?

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