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* [[spoiler:Seymour's]] plan to [[PutThemOutOfMyMisery Put Spira Out Of Its Misery]]. Yevon's core principle is that death is an end to suffering, so they shouldn't grieve over lost loved ones because they're "in a better place." They're actually [[spoiler:letting Sin rampage to encourage dependence on Yevon's summoners via the Calms]], but by that principle, wiping out all life in Spira would be the ethical thing to do and he's the only one willing to do it.


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* There is no water faith. Tidus is an star Blitzball player, a sport that takes place underwater (bonus points since "Blitz" is german for "lighting" water's polar opposite), and to take it further; Anima's faith (Seymore's mother, who became a faith in an act of love for Seymore if the ''one'' flashback she's in is any indicator) is found in the flooded Baaj Temple. Now i may be just reading into this too much, but i see a small conection--Ryuki

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* There is no water faith. Tidus is an star Blitzball player, a sport that takes place underwater (bonus points since "Blitz" is german for "lighting" water's polar opposite), and to take it further; Anima's faith (Seymore's mother, who became a faith in an act of love for Seymore if the ''one'' flashback she's in is any indicator) is found in the flooded Baaj Temple. Now i may be just reading into this too much, but i see a small conection--Ryukiconection--Ryuki
** I just thought it was because the water is already home to Sin, who fits the traditional ideal of a "leviathan" more than the (presumably) aeon Leviathan. -- Ralenys
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** In a meta-sense, the polarity of Yuna and Tidus is directly reflected with the way their Japanese translation of their names mean. Moon and Sun alike, which Spira as Earth Yuna giving the Moonlight on the darkness of the world that is Tidus's Sunlight that reflects of Yuna. So it's a funny eclipse story about how the Light and Darkness show each other that when there is something that is challenging they both can be tools to make the world a better place. -- Markus Grey
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* If Wakka never realized that Yuna was half Al Bhed, that means in her entire life, he never looked her in the eyes. [[MaleGaze Where exactly]] [[{{Squick}} was he looking?]]

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* FridgeHorror: Crops up when it comes to the Final Aeon. First, there's the cross between this and a FunnyAneurysmMoment when Tidus first learns about what exactly happens between the Grand Summoner and their Final Aeon. Then, when fighting [[spoiler:Jecht]], your are told right before the battle that [[spoiler:he]] "might not be able to hold back." And then [[ItGotWorse the Talk command stops working.]]
* FridgeLogic: If {{Revive Kills Zombie}}s, [[spoiler:why does it work normally on Auron]]?

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up when it comes to the Final Aeon. First, there's the cross between this and a FunnyAneurysmMoment when Tidus first learns about what exactly happens between the Grand Summoner and their Final Aeon. Then, when fighting [[spoiler:Jecht]], your are told right before the battle that [[spoiler:he]] "might not be able to hold back." And then [[ItGotWorse the Talk command stops working.]]
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*If Wakka never realized that Yuna was half Al Bhed, that means in her entire life, he never looked her in the eyes. [[MaleGaze Where exactly]] [[{{Squick}} was he looking?]]
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** To reaffirm to the people that the Final Aeon was the only way to defeat Sin. It seemed like many young people weren't interested in joining the church and opted to join the Crusaders instead because they thought they could defeat Sin with the ever increasing power of Al Bhed machinery. Having the Maesters there was just a way to make it seem like Yevon was on their side, when they were really just using them to prove a point and maintain the status quo.
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* The whole game is about the dead--[[spoiler: the maesters, Yu Yevon, etc. etc.]]--keeping the living from truly going on and living their lives, because the dead have been around for longer and deserve to keep on going, however static they might be. This game comes from Japan, in which the younger generations are expected to care for their elders (sometimes to their own seeming detriment), and which had just recently been in a state of stasis because, if this troper understands correctly, nobody wanted to invest their savings into spending and thus, into the next generations. Subtle social commentary much?--ElanaReskin

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* The whole game is about the dead--[[spoiler: the maesters, Yu Yevon, etc. etc.]]--keeping the living from truly going on and living their lives, because the dead have been around for longer and deserve to keep on going, however static they might be. This game comes from Japan, in which the younger generations are expected to care for their elders (sometimes to their own seeming detriment), and which had just recently been in a state of stasis because, if this troper understands correctly, nobody wanted to invest their savings into spending and thus, into the next generations. Subtle social commentary much?--ElanaReskinmuch?--ElanaReskin
* There is no water faith. Tidus is an star Blitzball player, a sport that takes place underwater (bonus points since "Blitz" is german for "lighting" water's polar opposite), and to take it further; Anima's faith (Seymore's mother, who became a faith in an act of love for Seymore if the ''one'' flashback she's in is any indicator) is found in the flooded Baaj Temple. Now i may be just reading into this too much, but i see a small conection--Ryuki
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*** Sin isn't killed every 10 years. Sin is killed whenever there's a summoner powerful enough to do it, which is a lot ''less'' frequent than every 10 years. Sin might not be able to get killed without a Final Summon, but it seems possible to cause it pain and drive it off, which is most likely how the Crusaders have been protecting Bevelle and the stadium.
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** Question: Sin's been around for about a good 1000 years, with a new sacrificial human replacing the previous Sin every 10 years. If the current Luca/Bevelle is kept from being destroyed by the current Sin (Jecht) because of his love for Blitzball, what about the decade before Jecht turned into Sin? Considering that a city the size of Luca and Bevelle would take more than 10 years to build to those magnitudes, there has to be some other reason that Sin doesn't attack Luca or Bevelle (unless every incarnation of Sin happened to have been star Blitzball players for the last 1000 years).

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** Question: Sin's been around for about a good 1000 years, with a new sacrificial human replacing the previous Sin every 10 years. If the current Luca/Bevelle is kept from being destroyed by the current Sin (Jecht) because of his love for Blitzball, what about during all the decade previous decades before Jecht turned into Sin? Considering that a city the size of Luca and Bevelle would take more than 10 years to build to those magnitudes, there has to be some other reason that Sin doesn't attack Luca or Bevelle (unless every incarnation of Sin happened to have been star Blitzball players for the last 1000 years).
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** Question: Sin's been around for about a good 1000 years, with a new sacrificial human replacing the previous Sin every 10 years. If the current Luca/Bevelle is kept from being destroyed by the current Sin (Jecht) because of his love for Blitzball, what about the decade before Jecht turned into Sin? Considering that a city the size of Luca and Bevelle would take more than 10 years to build to those magnitudes, there has to be some other reason that Sin doesn't attack Luca or Bevelle (unless every incarnation of Sin happened to have been star Blitzball players for the last 1000 years).
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* More Brilliance from the Kitchen Cold Storage Unit; Sin [[spoiler: aka Jecht]] usual executes a Class 0 ApocalypseHow on any settlement that gets bigger than an average town, yet Bevelle and Luca are still standing. Tidus even lampshades it when you first get to Luca, and the answer he gets is "The Crusaders protect the Blitzball Stadium with everything they have." Then it hits you; it's not the RedShirt Crusaders protecting it (he wiped out a good 90% of them in one shot after all), ''it's the Stadium itself'' that stops him, because [[spoiler: Jecht used to be a star Blitzball player and that stadium would be almost sacred to him]].

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* More Brilliance from the Kitchen Cold Storage Unit; Sin [[spoiler: aka Jecht]] usual usually executes a Class 0 ApocalypseHow on any settlement that gets bigger than an average town, yet Bevelle and Luca are still standing. Tidus even lampshades it when you first get to Luca, and the answer he gets is "The Crusaders protect the Blitzball Stadium with everything they have." Then it hits you; it's not the RedShirt Crusaders protecting it (he wiped out a good 90% of them in one shot after all), ''it's the Stadium itself'' that stops him, because [[spoiler: Jecht used to be a star Blitzball player and that stadium would be almost sacred to him]].
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** To be fair though, Alexander is only in a couple Final Fantasy games. He debuts in 6, has an NPC appearance in 9 (in which he's totally badass, but unfortunately unavailable to the player), and 13. To be fair, I haven't gotten far enough in 7, 8, or 12 to know if he's there or not, but to my knowledge, he isn't. Anyway, I like your reasoning, regardless.
*** Alexander is in [=FF8=]. I don't know about 7; he's not in 12, but none of the other iconic summons are either since 12 uses a set based on the FF Tactics Lucavi.
*** [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Alexander There's an easy place to check these things out, guys]]. Alexander is in every game from 6 onward except 10 and 12, and 12 went out of its way not to have any of the traditional summons.
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** [[FanaticalRacism: That Guado half breed may be a Maester but he doesn't represent the true Yevon!]]

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** [[FanaticalRacism: [[FantasticRacism That Guado half breed may be a Maester but he doesn't represent the true Yevon!]]
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*** [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Alexander There's an easy place to check these things out, guys]]. Alexander is in every game from 6 onward except 10 and 12, and 12 went out of its way not to have any of the traditional summons.
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*** Alexander is in [=FF8=]. I don't know about 7; he's not in 12, but none of the other iconic summons are either since 12 uses a set based on the FF Tactics Lucavi.
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** To be fair though, Alexander is only in a couple Final Fantasy games. He debuts in 6, has an NPC appearance in 9 (in which he's totally badass, but unfortunately unavailable to the player), and 13. To be fair, I haven't gotten far enough in 7, 8, or 12 to know if he's there or not, but to my knowledge, he isn't. Anyway, I like your reasoning, regardless.
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** I always thought the scene was ridiculous and stupid, but now that I watch it again, I find it sweet. With the world they live in, Tidus and Yuna haven't really had anything to laugh about in ages. It's just two people acting a bit silly in order to lighten the mood, and they really could use a good laugh.
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** [[FanaticalRacism: That Guado half breed may be a Maester but he doesn't represent the true Yevon!]]
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* Yevon cast out the Crusaders due to Operation Mi'ihen, deeming them "heretics." So, what the hell are Kinoc and Seymour doing there? Kinoc could be explained as being the man in charge of the Yevon military, but Seymour? In fact, Wakka himself stated that with the two of them there, it was like the whole thing was Yevon sponsored anyway. So how in the hell did anyone else not notice this? Moreover, how come '''''Wakka''''' was the only one to notice this?
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* More Brilliance from the Kitchen Cold Storage Unit; Sin [[spoiler: aka Jecht]] usual executes a Class 0 ApocalypseHow on any settlement that gets bigger than an average town, yet Bevelle and Luca are still standing. Tidus even lampshades it when you first get to Luca, and the answer he gets is "The Crusaders protect the Blitzball Stadium with everything they have." Then it hits you; it's not the RedShirt Crusaders protecting it (he wiped out a good 90% of them in one shot after all), ''it's the Stadium itself'' that stops him, because [[spoiler: Jecht used to be a star Blitzball player and that stadium would be almost sacred to him]].
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** When you really thinked about it, Tidus never laughed in YEARS. All that because of his [[JerkAss dad]].
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* Ignoring the fact that several major summons are missing, let's focus on Alexander. Did it cross anyone else's mind that his absence could have to do with being both Holy elemental and a machine, two things that don't really click with Yevon.
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*** [[ReviveKillsZombie Says you]].
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** One better: where would anything that would be worth stealing be on a machine? inside it. So to get at anything to steal, Rikku would have to just flat out dismantle the machine...not to mention, those "Grenades" you stole? More than likely a less than stable component of the machine. Brilliant!

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** One better: where would anything that would be worth stealing be on a machine? inside Inside it. So to get at anything to steal, Rikku would have to just flat out dismantle the machine...not to mention, those "Grenades" you stole? More than likely a less than stable component of the machine. Brilliant!

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* The fact that Rikku can take apart machina in battle with the steal command screams FridgeBrilliance. She's Al Bhed, so she would have the knowledge to do so.

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* The fact that Rikku can take apart machina in battle with the steal command screams FridgeBrilliance. She's Al Bhed, so she would have the knowledge to do so. so.
** One better: where would anything that would be worth stealing be on a machine? inside it. So to get at anything to steal, Rikku would have to just flat out dismantle the machine...not to mention, those "Grenades" you stole? More than likely a less than stable component of the machine. Brilliant!
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*** And besides, the swimmers had [[ThatOneBoss trouble enough]].
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Yuna was never neglected as a child. No one knew she was half Al-Bhed.


** Regarding the fact that Yuna was neglected for so long, while everyone was praising her father- this wasn't neglegence; it was FantasticRacism. The majority of Spirans hate the Al Bhed, and they don't want anything to do with some half-breed even if she is the daughter of High Summoner Braska. This is reinforced by the way they treated Seymour when he was a child and his father was a Maester.
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** The fact that Rikku can take apart machina in battle with the steal command screams FridgeBrilliance. She's Al Bhed, so she would have the knowledge to do so.
** The infamous [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg9I54vFFms laughing scene]]: Even with every other member of the party looking at the two like they're insane, Tidus and Yuna degenerate into ''genuine, happy laughter''.

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** * The fact that Rikku can take apart machina in battle with the steal command screams FridgeBrilliance. She's Al Bhed, so she would have the knowledge to do so.
** * The infamous [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg9I54vFFms laughing scene]]: Even with every other member of the party looking at the two like they're insane, Tidus and Yuna degenerate into ''genuine, happy laughter''.
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* Not sure if this counts, but listens to who sings the Hymns of the various Aeons. Valefor is a young(-ish) woman, Shiva is a slightly more mature woman, Anima is a middle-aged woman. Ifrit is a man (guessing 25-35), as is Ixion (but deeper), whilst Yojimbo is an older man. Here's the kicker - Bahamut is a young boy. As in, prepubescent, voice-not-yet-broken young. If all the others sound similar to how their original humans would have been, which isn't too much of a stretch, then the great and mighty Bahamut was a child when he became an Aeon. I for one didn't see that coming.

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* Not sure if this counts, but listens to who sings the Hymns of the various Aeons. Valefor is a young(-ish) woman, Shiva is a slightly more mature woman, Anima is a middle-aged woman. Ifrit is a man (guessing 25-35), as is Ixion (but deeper), whilst Yojimbo is an older man. Here's the kicker - Bahamut is a young boy. As in, prepubescent, voice-not-yet-broken young. If all the others sound similar to how their original humans would have been, which isn't too much of a stretch, then the great and mighty Bahamut was a child when he became an Aeon. I for one didn't see that coming.
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* Not sure if this counts, but listens to who sings the Hymns of the various Aeons. Valefor is a young(-ish) woman, Shiva is a slightly more mature woman, Anima is a middle-aged woman. Ifrit is a man (guessing 25-35), as is Ixion (but deeper), whilst Yojimbo is an older man. Here's the kicker - Bahamut is a young boy. As in, prepubescent, voice-not-yet-broken young. If all the others sound similar to how their original humans would have been, which isn't too much of a stretch, then the great and mighty Bahamut was a child when he became an Aeon. I for one didn't see that coming.

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