History Fridge / FateGrandOrder

* Noah’s idolizing of Nemo and putting himself down in Nemo’s favor would be a funny quirk…had “Nemo” not mean “no one” in Latin and the “Fighting Captain” is not an {{Ubermensch}}. Noah even sees a name that means “to comfort” in Hebrew as unbefitting for Nemo, and prefers to introduce himself as “Nemo”. Adding that Noah believes he is just one of God’s [[TheChosenMany Chosen Manies]] and a mere successor of Utnapishtim, it begs questions just how deep his SelfDeprecation go for him to prefer being known as no one rather than the he who relieved the world.

** In Fate/Extra CCC, B.B. merged facets of her personality with aspects of various gods and Divine Spirits to create the Sakura Five Alter Ego Servants and employed them as powerful minions to trap people on the Far Side of the Moon Cell to keep the Moon Cell Grail War from being able to continue. B.B. herself might technically part of the Moon Cell system, but the Sakura Five are essentially products of hacking.

* How Mata Hari is saved from execution and smuggled out of Salem in Epic of Remnant's Salem arc becomes more of this when you realize it's almost identical to Romeo and Juliets plot. In Romeo and Juliet, a plan is hatched to have both tiuular characters flee from their families when Juliet is forced to marry someone she does not love. This is done by having Juliet drink a potion that would induce a temporary death like state. In the Salem arc, Mata Hari is given a dose of poison that makes it so that it looks like she is no longer living. To add to this, the cast in Salem are pretending to be a troupe of actors performing stage plays, something proposed by none other than...you guessed it, Shakespeare.

** ''"Bitter Black" (Kiritsugu)'': Despite their horrible rapport in ''LightNovel/FateZero'', Altria never had sustainability and mana issues with Kiritsugu as her master--and this CE helpfully replicates it with its HP recovery and NP gain effects. Similarly, even Assassin EMIYA's own semi-fragility (and need for NP spamming capability) could be addressed by this. Finally, placing this on Dress of Heaven/Irisviel is not entirely a bad idea to keep her spamming her healing NP.

** Jeanne's and Amakusa's are both Anti-Ruler. While Jeanne is the BigGood of ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', Amakusa is the BigBad of that light novel; making clash with each other.

** Jack's is Anti-Archer. In ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', Jack managed to corrupt Atalanta, and make the Archer of Red go off the deep end.

*** Atalante Alter's form is created by using Agrius Metamorphosis to become a Berserker class Servant. Unlike the others, she is essentially turning into another class through a Noble Phantasm, so she isn't a separate being from the regular Atalante in terms of her Alter form. Furthermore, her Alter title is more of a title since in ''LightNovel/FateApocrypha'', she was essentially in a powered up form instead.

* Also, from the prologue to Time Temple Solomon: So Marisbury Animusphere and Solomon made normal wishes on the Fuyuki Grail? ''LightNovel/FateZero'', both itself and the ''Zero'' event in the game itself, tells us why that would be a '''terrible''' idea! The Fuyuki Grail at that point, in that state, would implement the wish in the most destructive way possible! Yet it would seem like nothing happened... until you realize that Solomon had that final vision of humanity's incineration right as his Clairvoyance faded, ''after he had made his wish''. Making that wish is probably what prevented Lev Lainur from killing himself as he otherwise does, allowing Goetia to kick off his plan and the entire plot of ''Grand Order''.

** In Fate/Apocrypha, Rulers are actually a built-in class with a purpose: to uphold the rules of the Fuyuki Holy Grail War. To that end, they are automatically granted Command Spells and the authority to use them on any Servant in order to assist them in their capacity as impartial mediators. For this reason, the Eimzberns chose to illegally summon a Ruler as a combatant, and ended up with Amakusa Shirou Tokisada. His being summoned into the Ruler container specially set aside by the Greater Grail meant that when it initiated the Great Holy Grail War, Jeanne D'Arc the Ruler it chose to adjudicate the conflict had to be summoned into the body of a human. In the end, the Greater Grail was removed from the human world in order to keep Amakusa's wish from affecting the human order.

*** This could also explain why Kuro is so much more effective as a Servant than EMIYA, despite her powers being derived from him. Unlike her alternate dimension older brother, Kuro had EMIYA's skills from his peak installed(pun not intended) into her very being since she was given a body thanks to the Archer EMIYA Class Card. EMIYA's max potential is something she was gifted with at "birth" as opposed to through years of training.

* How Mata Hari is saved from execution and smuggled out of Salem in Epic of Remnant's Salem arc becomes more of this when you realize it's almost identical to Romeo and Juliets plot. In Romeo and Juliet, a plan is hatched to have both tiuular characters flee from their families when Juliet is forced to marry someone she does not love. This is done by having Juliet drink a potion that would induce a temporary death like state. In the Salem arc, Mata Hari is given a dose of poison that makes it so that it looks like she is no longer living. To add to this, the cast in Salem are pretending to be a troupe of actors performing stage plays, something proposed by none other than...you guessed it, Shakespeare.

** The rankings of most Servants reflect the legacy they left behind: Billy and Geronimo are both 3* as they are famous icons but only for the WildWest,[[note]]Geronimo may not be as well known, but his name is part of the public lexicon as a way of expressing excitement, e.g. "Geronimo!"[[/note]] Edison is a 4* as he brought easily obtainable light(bulbs) to the world and is backed by the Presidents of the United States, and Tesla is a 5* for changing the world completely by providing it with electricity. As for Bunyan and Abigail, their ranking is indicative of their true nature; Bunyan is a 1* as under normal circumstances she's just a Phantom and could never be a Servant (With Super Bunyan only being a five-star servant thanks to the efforts of ''Manga/LearningWithMangaFGO'' Rider and Assassim), while Abigail is a 5* due to serving as the host to an Outer God.

* In FGO Arcade, during their final singularity, Mash is not killed and doesn't need to be resurrected. Proto Merlin comments that this is good, since Cath Pulag doesn't exist in their timeline. However, Fou didn't just resurrect Mash in mobile, he gave her a normal human lifespan as well. Arcade Mash's lifespan is near the end.

* Ishtar shrinking at the gates to the Underworld was a good way to censor the myth where she has to strip her clothes off. However, in English translations, it becomes a rather clever StealthPun. Ishtar must ''belittle'' or ''diminish'' herself, since both of those words can be read as either "to shame (someone)" or "to reduce in size". LuckyTranslation?

** In Fate/Stay Night timelines, the Einzberns summoned Aŋra Mainiiu as an Avenger in an attempt to gain the ultimate killer. While he was too weak in combat to amount to anything, his essence tainted the Grail with All the World's Evil, which twisted the Fuyuki Grail so that any wish made upon it would be interpreted in the worst way possible. In all three routes, the curses within are nearly unleashed in some form or another, forcing the protagonists to stop it by any means necessary, and by the time of Fate/Hollow Ataraxia Lord El Melloi and Rin Tohsaka end up dismantling the Greater Grail altogether to keep it from causing any more problems.

** In Fate/Stay Night timelines, the Einzberns summoned Aŋra Mainiiu as an Avenger in an attempt to gain the ultimate killer. While he was too weak in combat to amount to anything, his essence tainted the Grail with All the World's Evil, which twisted the Fuyuki Grail so that any wish made upon it would be interpreted in the worst way possible.
** In Fate/Apocrypha, Rulers summoned under the Fuyuki system are automatically granted Command Spells to assist them in their capacity as impartial mediators. For this reason, the Eimzberns chose to illegally summon a Ruler, and ended up with Amakusa Shirou Tokisada, who went on to not only disrupt the Third Fuyuki War, but also the Great Holy Grail War in Trifas.
** In Fate/Extra CCC, B.B. merged facets of her personality with aspects of various gods and Divine Spirits to create the Sakura Five Alter Ego Servants and employed them as powerful minions to trap people on the Far Side of the Moon Cell to keep the Moon Cell Grail War from being able to continue.

* While some may feel the reveal that Chaldea summoning Extra Class Servants has marked them as "foreign" to the planet is odd, this makes sense when you consider the three classes in question, Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego, are not technically supposed to exist. All three came about because someone decided to say "ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem", and rip out people who should not have been summonable and stick them in classes outside the original seven. Anyone who choses to use those classes is going against what the Grail system was made for, and would naturally be seen as foreign by that logic.

* While some may feel the reveal that Chaldea summoning Extra Class Servants has marked them as "foreign" to the planet, this makes sense when you consider the three classes in question, Ruler, Avenger, and Alter Ego, are not technically supposed to exist. All three came about because someone decided to say "ScrewTheRulesIMakeThem", and rip out people who should not have been summonable and stick them in classes outside the original seven. Anyone who choses to use those classes is going against what the Grail system was made for, and would naturally be seen as foreign by that logic.

* Kirschtaria's attacks in the game are identical to those used by the Trees of Emptiness. If you recall, his magecraft is the same as the Animusphere Families who focus on astronomy and space, which is where the Trees of Emptiness came from. When the Alien God descends, it adds even more context.
** This becomes even more justified when you learn that the Alien God ''isn't'' actually from space, but is another Disciple of the Foreign ''World'', [=CHALDEAS=] - and that the entire plot was masterminded by Marisbury Animusphere. It only makes sense that the creatures he created would have the same fighting style as his protege.

* The prologue for ''Cosmos in the Lostbelt'', even before the Alien God's invasion, has the Protagonist and Mash being ''brutally'' interrogated by Mages Association officers. Imagine being in their shoes; after going through countless trials and, in Mash's case, defying ''death itself'', their "reward" was having their benefactors completely turn on them, invade their home, banish almost all their friends, and then shunt them into cramped, barely-lit rooms where complete strangers furiously rant and scream about how their actions were "heretical" and that they would "pay dearly" for breaking the laws of TheMasquerade.

* Why is the Protagonist so exhausted and sleepy at the start of Part 1, even falling asleep in the hall? Because he's been in transit from Japan to an unspecified point in Antartica as revealed in Part 2's prologue, meaning he's both jet legged and exhausted from the absolute minimum almost an entire day's worth of traveling, as he's the last Master Candidate to reach Chaldea before the initial briefing.
* The reveal of grand servants explains a lot about the summoning chant 'I shall be all that is good' 'I shall defeat all evil'? That always seemed a bit weird given that most magus seemed to be immoral scientists who wouldn't hesitate to disect a child but now that we know it is a corruption of the grand servant summoning system it makes perfect sense. Summoning servants to fight against the seven evils of humanity. They would be all that is good, the best of humanity and the Beast would be all that is evil, to be destroyed.

** Thirdly, Forneas is the observatory. The Masters can no longer be tracked.

*** In the event only Deepsea Cyberbrain Paradise SE.RA.PH, we face Zepar. He causes women to love men, and bring them together in love. He befittingly corrupts FGO's Kiara Sessyoin into becoming like her CCC Self, who was befittingly an avatar of lust and desire. This comes to bite him when she instead becomes uncontrollable and evolves into Beast 3R as an aspect of Pleasure.

[[folder:Fridge Horror]]
* Fuyuki City in flames is already very disturbing, but compare the map in this game to the map of Fuyuki in ''VisualNovel/FateHollowAtaraxia'', the first area of the map is ''the Emiya residence'', the large crater in the ground is exactly where the Tohsaka residence was and the area where you can fight Heracles as a BonusBoss is the forest outside the Einzbern Castle. And if you look at a version of the map without game icons, you can see a long city-spanning line of fire that was shot by Excalibur.
** You can get a more precise measure of what area is what by comparing the "Fate/Zero Accel Order" event map, as it's area per area the same; just [[https://gamepress.gg/grandorder/sites/grandorder/files/2018-04/FateZero%20Accel%20Order_0.png before]] and [[https://cdnen.samurai-gamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/03062151/19619416_1565554760121841_1116342125_o-1024x576.png after]].
* The BigBad is a Servant who is capable of summoning himself from the Throne of Heroes. Considering how the Throne exists outside of space-time, and a Heroic Spirit who "dies" really just gets sent back there, this means that Solomon is ''completely unkillable'' - even if you do muster enough power to destroy his form, he can just summon himself back into the world without a hassle.
** Thankfully this turns out to be a bluff in order to intimidate Chaldea. However, we actually learn that it's Beast I Goetia possessing the dead corpse of Solomon, and it's basically immortal until the real Solomon sacrifices himself and his existence in the Throne to even make him vulnerable.

* Also, from the prologue to Time Temple Solomon: So Marisbury Animusphere and Solomon made normal wishes on the Fuyuki Grail? ''LightNovel/FateZero'', both itself and the ''Zero'' event in the game itself, tells us why that would be a '''terrible''' idea! The Fuyuki Grail at that point, in that state, would implement the wish in the most destructive way possible! Yet it would seem like nothing happened... until you realize that Solomon had that final vision of humanity's incineration right as his Clairvoyance faded, ''after he had made his wish''. Making that wish is probably what prevented Lev Lainur from killing himself as he otherwise does, allowing Goetia to kick off his plan and the entire plot of ''Grand Order''.
** The grail in Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night only interpreted wishes as destructive because Angra Mainyu had contaminated it from the Third War. There were no previous grail wars in this timeline so the grail would never have had a chance to be contaminated.
** As a side bit of horror to this: the records on Trihermes in the Atlas Institute during Camelot are pretty clear on Animusphere winning the 2004 Fuyuki War by killing all opposing Masters. If... if Animusphere was the only "new" Master (or is even, perhaps, the otherwise Master of Medea briefly seen during the ''UBW'' anime), then did he... did Shirou, Rin, Sakura, Illya...?
*** He can't be the otherwise Master of Medea, because that master's name is Atrum Galliasta, and from what we know of him, he doesn't match any description that has been given of Marisbury so far.
** They're probably okay. Remember that no Grail Wars happened in the F/GO timeline until 2004. As such, Shirou would be living a normal life (since the fire would've never happened, at least outside of the Point F Singularity), the Einzberns may've still sent Kiritsugu (so he would've died instead), and Tokiomi should still be alive since Kirei repressed himself until meeting Gilgamesh).
*** Until it was revealed that the Greater Grail War ''still happened'', with Goredolf having met Balmung personally.
* Fou turns out to be an alternate version of Beast IV, better known as ''Primate Murder'', who gained a different perspective of humanity thanks to Merlin's influence. Given what we know about Primate Murder and the other Beasts, we're extremely lucky it's on our side and gave up its power and intelligence to bring back Mash.
** After the reveal of how Beast III-R was made, which is created by overriding the GO counterpart with a counterpart that became a Beast, who's to say that any other Demon pillar or even Altrouge Brunestud herself might waltz in and pull the same stunt on our dear Fou. Unlike Kiara, Fou is actually aware of his original future as Primate Murder as stated by himself when he was resurrecting Mash in the epilogue of Solomon chapter but still...

* After everything Chaldea goes through to "[[DefeatingTheUndefeatable defeat]]" ORT in the seventh Lostbelt, the horror settles in when you realize just what it ''took'' to accomplish this: a past defeat by a literally-immortal god just barely as strong as it in just the right circumstances after genuine ages of non-stop battle to rip out its heart, which only weakened and put it to sleep, followed by the absolute maximum of every single possible thing Chaldea could throw at it, a fully-powered Hume-Barrel Rayproof after weakening it enough, and its own heart sacrificing herself to help destroy it once and for all. This was ''after'' it was not only TheJuggernaut, not only able to resurrect FromASingleCell, not only able to wipe out and shrug off even some of the strongest Servants around as well as Olga's black holes and a full-powered Excalibur, but even ''hijack the Servant system just to one-up Chaldea repeatedly.'' And then realize that this is only a Lostbelt's ''recreation'', albeit hopped up on a CosmicKeystone; the genuine, real ORT is effectively an inevitability on any still-functioning Earth and dormant on the Earths where humanity never exists or gets wiped out. And without the series of coincidences, historical advantages and tools that managed to come together for this one-in-a-million situation (two key points being that the Rayproof would likely fail to work on it thanks to being an invited guest to Earth, and the lack of its own heart rebelling against it), and with its physical state entirely intact, virtually every humanity across every timeline is doomed if they somehow survive long enough for ORT to wake up. Forget a FinalBossPreview; this merely scratches the surface of what the true ORT could do should it awaken.

* After everything Chaldea goes through to "[[DefeatingTheUndefeatable defeat]]" ORT in the seventh Lostbelt, the horror settles in when you realize just what it ''took'' to accomplish this: a past defeat by a literally-immortal god just barely as strong as it in just the right circumstances after genuine ages of non-stop battle to rip out its heart, which only weakened and put it to sleep, followed by the absolute maximum of every single possible thing Chaldea could throw at it, a fully-powered Hume-Barrel Rayproof after weakening it enough, and its own heart sacrificing herself to help destroy it once and for all. This was ''after'' it was not only TheJuggernaut, not only able to resurrect FromASingleCell, not only able to wipe out and shrug off even some of the strongest Servants around as well as Olga's black holes and a full-powered Excalibur, but even ''hijack the Servant system just to one-up Chaldea repeatedly.'' And then realize that this is only a Lostbelt's ''recreation'', albeit hopped up on a CosmicKeystone; the genuine, real ORT is effectively an inevitability on any still-functioning Earth and dormant on the Earths where humanity never exists or gets wiped out. And without the series of coincidences, historical advantages and tools that managed to come together for this one-in-a-million situation and with its state entirely intact, virtually every humanity across every timeline is doomed if they somehow survive long enough for ORT to wake up. Forget a FinalBossPreview; this merely scratches the surface of what the true ORT could do should it awaken.

* After everything Chaldea goes through to "[[DefeatingTheUndefeatable defeat]]" ORT in the seventh Lostbelt, the horror settles in when you realize just what it ''took'' to accomplish this: a past defeat by a literally-immortal god just barely as strong as it in just the right circumstances after genuine ages of non-stop battle to rip out its heart, which only weakened and put it to sleep, followed by the absolute maximum of every single possible thing Chaldea could throw at it, a fully-powered Hume-Barrel Rayproof after weakening it enough, and its own heart sacrificing herself to help destroy it once and for all. This was ''after'' it was not only TheJuggernaut, not only able to resurrect FromASingleCell, not only able to wipe out and shrug off even some of the strongest Servants around, but even ''hijack the Servant system just to one-up Chaldea repeatedly.'' And then realize that this is only a Lostbelt's ''recreation'', albeit hopped up on a CosmicKeystone; the genuine, real ORT is effectively an inevitability on any still-functioning Earth and dormant on the Earths where humanity never exists or gets wiped out. And without the series of coincidences, historical advantages and tools that managed to come together for this one-in-a-million situation and with its state entirely intact, virtually every humanity across every timeline is doomed if they somehow survive long enough for ORT to wake up. Forget a FinalBossPreview; this merely scratches the surface of what the true ORT could do should it awaken.

* After everything Chaldea goes through to "[[DefeatingTheUndefeatable defeat]]" ORT in the seventh Lostbelt, the horror settles in when you realize just what it ''took'' to accomplish this: a past defeat by a literally-immortal god just barely as strong as it in just the right circumstances after genuine ages of non-stop battle to rip out its heart, which only weakened and put it to sleep, followed by the absolute maximum of every single possible thing Chaldea could throw at it, a fully-powered Hume-Barrel Rayproof after weakening it enough, and its own heart sacrificing herself to help destroy it once and for all. This was ''after'' it was not only TheJuggernaut, not only able to resurrect FromASingleCell, not only able to wipe out and shrug off even some of the strongest Servants around, but even ''hijack the Servant system just to one-up Chaldea repeatedly.'' And then realize that this is only a Lostbelt's ''recreation'', albeit hopped up on a CosmicKeystone; the genuine, real ORT is effectively an inevitability on any still-functioning Earth and dormant on the Earths where humanity never exists or gets wiped out. And without the series of coincidences, historical advantages and tools that managed to come together for this one-in-a-million situation and with its entire state entirely intact, virtually every humanity across every timeline is doomed if they somehow survive long enough for ORT to wake up. Forget a FinalBossPreview; this merely scratches the surface of what the true ORT could do should it awaken.

* After everything Chaldea goes through to "[[DefeatingTheUndefeatable defeat]]" ORT in the seventh Lostbelt, the horror settles in when you realize just what it ''took'' to accomplish this: a past defeat by a literally-immortal god just barely as strong as it in just the right circumstances after genuine ages of non-stop battle to rip out its heart, which only weakened and put it to sleep, followed by the absolute maximum of every single possible thing Chaldea could throw at it, a fully-powered Hume-Barrel Rayproof after weakening it enough, and its own heart sacrificing herself to help destroy it once and for all. And then realize that this is only a Lostbelt's ''recreation'', albeit hopped up on a CosmicKeystone; the genuine, real ORT is effectively an inevitability on any still-functioning Earth and dormant on the Earths where humanity never exists or gets wiped out. And without the series of coincidences, historical advantages and tools that managed to come together for this one-in-a-million situation and with its entire state entirely intact, virtually every humanity across every timeline is doomed if they somehow survive long enough for ORT to wake up.