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* Wait, so ComicBook/TheJoker spent a year faceless? How did he pull that off? The point of skin is to protect the body from disease and other things. So how did Joker spend a year missing his face without getting infected?
** There are other ways to protect the face. Perhaps he kept it covered with [[BandagedFace bandages]] or a face covering and used eyedrops to keep his eyes from drying out.
** [[{{A Wizard Did It}} Joker's natural toxicity killed off any foreign diseases]]. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
*** If we're supposed to accept that a chemical bath of undetermined contents bleached his skin, dyed his hair and stretched his face into a grotesque grin, pretty much this.
** We also have Hush as a precedent, though he didn't spend a whole year faceless.
* Wouldn't the skin from Joker's face have wasted to dust and he have grown a whole new layer of skin over his face within a year?
** There's nothing saying he doesn't have a new layer of skin. It's not addressed either way, and it wouldn't affect anything if he did have some new skin. Given that his own blood is poisonous, who knows how much of his physiology has changed during his exposure to all those chemicals.
** The skin from Joker's face (that he cut off) was kept in a freezer.
*** That just raises more questions, the most obvious of which is why anyone would keep such obvious SchmuckBait left behind by the Joker.
* When Catwoman encounters the Joker, she acts all "Never heard of you." Either she was insulting him or she was being serious. As one review pointed out, it would be unbelievable that she's being serious, because she had worked with Joker and other villains from time to time. So how is it possible for her to never hear of someone when she worked with that someone at one point?
** This was most likely a dig at the "new" appearance of the Joker. With the face mask & all.
* [[spoiler:Harley Quinn bites off Joker's tongue and spits it out]]. His ability to speak is not affected at all! How is this possible?
** The same way he cut his tongue in two during Batman R.I.P. and could still speak.
*** Although the implication in RIP was - although Morrison had to clarify this - was that Doctor Hurt (an entirely unnatural being by that point himself) was the only one who could understand Joker at that point.
* Tim states that Jason is the closest thing he's ever had to a brother. What the hell about Dick?! Did the New 52 completely erase all the adventures and moments the two shared before the reboot?
** That may very well be the case, since Dick and Damian already have a close bond that is touched on. Playing relationships off each other isn't surprising in any ensemble.
** Yes, actual relationships that have been developed, not ones purely informed. Battle for the Cowl still happened, so Jason still brutally kicked Tim's ass. You don't get past that with a few favours.
* The Joker shows Harley a huge pile of dead Harleys, and tells her she's not the first one. Except that, since we know Harley's been around for this whole year, all of those bodies would be rotted down to bones if that were truly the case. It's far more likely that he killed a bunch of random women and dressed them like Harley just to mess with her. After all, the whole point of his plan was to MindScrew the Bat-Family - there's no reason to think he'd exempt Harley from that.
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** Considering that the New 52 universe is a 5-year timeline for Batman, it wouldn't seem likely that Joker had so many sidekicks in that short of amount of time. And even if he did, wouldn't Harley have heard about at one point or another?

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** Considering that the New 52 universe is a 5-year timeline for Batman, it wouldn't seem likely that Joker had so many sidekicks in that short of amount of time. And even if he did, wouldn't Harley have heard about at one point or another?
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** Considering that the New 52 universe is a 5-year timeline for Batman, it wouldn't seem likely that Joker had so many sidekicks in that shot of amount of time. And even if he did, wouldn't Harley have heard about at one point or another?

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** Considering that the New 52 universe is a 5-year timeline for Batman, it wouldn't seem likely that Joker had so many sidekicks in that shot short of amount of time. And even if he did, wouldn't Harley have heard about at one point or another?
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*** That just raises more questions, the most obvious of which is why anyone would keep such obvious SchmuckBait left behind by the Joker.
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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].

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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', ''Film/Batman1989'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].
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* Wait, so TheJoker spent a year faceless? How did he pull that off? The point of skin is to protect the body from disease and other things. So how did Joker spend a year missing his face without getting infected?

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* Wait, so TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker spent a year faceless? How did he pull that off? The point of skin is to protect the body from disease and other things. So how did Joker spend a year missing his face without getting infected?

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!!FridgeBrilliance:
* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].



* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].

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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].
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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}, directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].

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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}, ''Film/{{Batman}}'', directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].
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* Joker was once the main villain of ''Film/{{Batman}}, directed by Creator/TimBurton. Now he's [[WesternAnimation/TheNightmareBeforeChristmas a clown with a tear-away face, here in a flash and gone without a trace]].
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*** That's implying he actually succeeded prior to Harley being dunked in the chemicals, although given the Joker is a chemical genius to the point he can adjust his Joker Venom to generate ''frowns'' - suggesting he can alter the chemical makeup of his poisons to a ridiculous degree - it's possible he was just screwing with her.
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* The Joker shows Harley a huge pile of dead Harleys, and tells her she's not the first one. Except that, since we know Harley's been around for this whole year, all of those bodies would be rotted down to bones if that were truly the case. It's far more likely that he killed a bunch of random women and dressed them like Harley just to mess with her. After all, the whole point of his plan was to MindScrew the Bat-Family - there's no reason to think he'd exempt Harley from that.
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*** ...That actually makes perfect sense! "I'm dead for 5 minutes and you f*ck some Billy the Kid wannabe? Fine! Maybe I'll make you think ''you're'' replicable!"
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** Considering that the New 52 universe is a 5-year timeline for Batman, it wouldn't seem likely that Joker had so many sidekicks in that shot of amount of time. And even if he did, wouldn't Harley have heard about at one point or another?
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*** If we're supposed to accept that a chemical bath of undetermined contents bleached his skin, dyed his hair and stretched his face into a grotesque grin, pretty much this.


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*** Although the implication in RIP was - although Morrison had to clarify this - was that Doctor Hurt (an entirely unnatural being by that point himself) was the only one who could understand Joker at that point.
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!!FridgeBrilliance:
* Joker is quite the freaky character, when you consider that he names JokerImmunity, and that he continues to speak, despite having no lips and [[spoiler: having his tongue bitten off by Harley Quinn]]. Maybe it's simply artistic license. Or...maybe he's not actually a man. That is to say, maybe he was one, but ''something'' turned him into a HumanoidAbomination. It could explain a lot about him....
** It would certainly explain the main-page mentioned OOCIsSeriousBusiness.
*** I read a theory somewhere on this site (I think it was on the main Batman WMG page) that the Joker is an avatar of [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]]...
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** Yes, actual relationships that have been developed, not ones purely informed. Battle for the Cowl still happened, so Jason still brutally kicked Tim's ass. You don't get pass that with a few favours.

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** Yes, actual relationships that have been developed, not ones purely informed. Battle for the Cowl still happened, so Jason still brutally kicked Tim's ass. You don't get pass past that with a few favours.
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* Finding out that [[spoiler: Harley Quinn]] is actually a LegacyCharacter is just loaded with this. The character fans remember is a blonde psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum who tried to analyze the Joker, and ended up turning into his MonsterFangirl. Was that character the very first one, or were there others before her? Sure, she seemed to have stayed alive for a long time, but for all we know, she was killed off-screen and replaced with a lookalike. How many fan-girls has the Joker had?

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* Finding out that [[spoiler: Harley Quinn]] is actually a LegacyCharacter is just loaded with this. The character fans remember is a blonde psychiatrist in Arkham Asylum who tried to analyze the Joker, Joker and ended up turning into his MonsterFangirl. Was that character the very first one, one or were there others before her? Sure, she seemed to have stayed alive for a long time, but time but, for all we know, she was killed off-screen and replaced with a lookalike. How many fan-girls has the Joker had?

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