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* Undertaking an extermination quest in the Warrens will sometimes have the Ancestor comment that the swine breed quickly... but none of the swine you encounter appear to be female. Take into account that the Ancestor admits to abducting villagers and sending them into the Warrens for the swine to feed on, and [[FaceFullOfAlienWingWong things get unpleasant]] [[GratuitousRape really quickly]].
** Or it could just be that the females look identical to the males when their junk is covered, which is the case for the majority of animals, ''including actual pigs''.
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** Or it could just be that the females look identical to the males when their junk is covered, which is the case for the majority of animals, ''including actual pigs''.
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* Why does the Crystalline Aberrations heal whoever manages to destroy them before they explode? They are miniature pockets of warping time and space, and if cracked prematurely, unleashes its acquired charge upon the person closest to them instead for the whole party, warping their existence in time and space for a short instant. Including ''undoing'' any injury they might have suffered moments or minutes beforehand as it reverses the attacker to a former state of existence before they received them.
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* Considering all of the construction of the Estate and the amount of money and treasure and artifacts that can be looted from the ruins of the Estate, as well as the sheer number of vampires in the Court, it's pretty clear that the Estate's population must have been much, much larger than it is at the start of the game and the lands were vastly wealthier. or the estate to now be in such a terrible state of total disrepair, imagine the sheer number of people who had to have been killed even ''before'' open revolt caused the Ancestor to have the bandits slaughter the Hamlet's population "to more manageable numbers."

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* Considering all of the construction of the Estate and the amount of money and treasure and artifacts that can be looted from the ruins of the Estate, ruins, as well as the sheer number of vampires in the Court, it's pretty clear that the Estate's population must have been much, much larger than it is at the start of the game and the lands were vastly wealthier. or For the estate to now be in such a terrible state of total disrepair, imagine the sheer number of people who had to have been killed even ''before'' open revolt caused the Ancestor to have the bandits slaughter the Hamlet's population "to more manageable numbers."
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* With the ''Color of Madness'' DLC, there's the Jeweler, who sells crystalline trinkets, and Shard Mercenaries, who fight exclusively for a cut of the Shards of the Comet from your harvests. Coupled with how the Ancestor mentions a bountiful harvest from the Miller's misfortune, and it is strongly implied that not only are people familiar with the horrors caused by entities like the Sleeper, but there's an ''economy'' around trading in the byproducts of eldritch time-warping horrors.

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* With the ''Color of Madness'' DLC, there's the Jeweler, who sells crystalline trinkets, and Shard Mercenaries, who fight exclusively for a cut of the Shards of the Comet from your harvests. Coupled with how the Ancestor mentions a bountiful harvest from the Miller's misfortune, and it is strongly implied that not only are people familiar with the horrors caused by entities like the Sleeper, but there's an ''economy'' around trading in the byproducts of eldritch time-warping horrors.horrors.
* Considering all of the construction of the Estate and the amount of money and treasure and artifacts that can be looted from the ruins of the Estate, as well as the sheer number of vampires in the Court, it's pretty clear that the Estate's population must have been much, much larger than it is at the start of the game and the lands were vastly wealthier. or the estate to now be in such a terrible state of total disrepair, imagine the sheer number of people who had to have been killed even ''before'' open revolt caused the Ancestor to have the bandits slaughter the Hamlet's population "to more manageable numbers."
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Natter. Plus the estate is much more than just the hamlet. The massive amounts of money, gems, and construction in the area indicates that it was a much larger area than the small hamlet that remains at the start of the game.


*** If it were more populated then it would, by definition, not have been a hamlet.
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*** If it were more populated then it would, by definition, not have been a hamlet.
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* Cursed heroes constantly demand the Blood, but the blood of humans doesn't satisfy them. It's implied that The Blood that they drink is an alcoholic substance created by the Court or the Sanguine Vintners, but consider the dark implications of the final line of the DLC: the Bloodsuckers are drinking the "tainted blood of the Darkest Dungeon." Maybe it's not ''human'' blood that they desire, but [[spoiler: the blood of the Heart of Darkness]].

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* Cursed heroes constantly demand the Blood, but the blood of humans doesn't satisfy them. It's implied that The Blood that they drink is an alcoholic substance created by the Court or the Sanguine Vintners, but consider the dark implications of the final line of the DLC: the Bloodsuckers are drinking the "tainted blood of the Darkest Dungeon." Maybe it's not ''human'' blood that they desire, but [[spoiler: the blood of the Heart of Darkness]].Darkness]].
* With the ''Color of Madness'' DLC, there's the Jeweler, who sells crystalline trinkets, and Shard Mercenaries, who fight exclusively for a cut of the Shards of the Comet from your harvests. Coupled with how the Ancestor mentions a bountiful harvest from the Miller's misfortune, and it is strongly implied that not only are people familiar with the horrors caused by entities like the Sleeper, but there's an ''economy'' around trading in the byproducts of eldritch time-warping horrors.
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** It's also worth remembering that the Hamlet was a far, far wealthier and more populated place prior to its current state. Just how much of the Hamlet's current squalor is a result of the nobility in the area being locked away in the Court, and leaving the lands around your estate to wither and rot away?

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* Considering that there are hundreds of vampires in the Crimson Court, and they are all nobility and officials from outside of the Hamlet, this probably means that many of the government leaders and nobility for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement. No wonder the outside lands are in such awful disarray and everything is so lawless.
* You know those maggot enemies you can encounter in any dungeon? What exactly do they pupate into?

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* Considering that there are hundreds of vampires in the Crimson Court, and they are all nobility and officials from outside of the Hamlet, this probably means that many of the government leaders and nobility for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement. No wonder the outside lands are in such awful disarray and everything is so lawless.
* You know those maggot enemies you can encounter in any dungeon? What exactly do they pupate into?into?
* Cursed heroes constantly demand the Blood, but the blood of humans doesn't satisfy them. It's implied that The Blood that they drink is an alcoholic substance created by the Court or the Sanguine Vintners, but consider the dark implications of the final line of the DLC: the Bloodsuckers are drinking the "tainted blood of the Darkest Dungeon." Maybe it's not ''human'' blood that they desire, but [[spoiler: the blood of the Heart of Darkness]].
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* [[spoiler:The thing from the comet can summon enemies from timelines where it won. Keep in mind that entails it growing to maturity and [[EvilVersusEvil fighting the Heart for dominion over the planet.]] This means the thing ''is strong enough at full power to decisively beat the Heart''.]]
** Where is it said that these enemies are specifically coming from [[spoiler:timelines where it ''won''?]]
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* Considering that there are hundreds of vampires in the Crimson Court, and they are all nobility and officials from outside of the Hamlet, this probably means that many of the government leaders and nobility for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement. No wonder the outside lands are in such awful disarray and everything is so lawless.

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* Considering that there are hundreds of vampires in the Crimson Court, and they are all nobility and officials from outside of the Hamlet, this probably means that many of the government leaders and nobility for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement. No wonder the outside lands are in such awful disarray and everything is so lawless.lawless.
* You know those maggot enemies you can encounter in any dungeon? What exactly do they pupate into?
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** Where is it said that these enemies are specifically coming from [[spoiler:timelines where it ''won''?]]

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* Okay so this is somewhere between fridge logic and fridge horror, but we know that the crimson court events started when The Ancestor spiked the drinks of the hamlet's aristocracy with vampire blood, right? ...except the phrase "the hamlet's aristocracy" ''makes no freaking sense''. According to the other wiki, "A hamlet is a small human settlement. In different jurisdictions and geographies, a hamlet may be the size of a town, village or parish, or may be considered to be a smaller settlement or subdivision or satellite entity to a larger settlement." ''No way'' a place like that would have it's own endless hoard of aristocrats; it barely makes sense for them to have even ''the one'' aristocrat, come to think of it. No, these people would have to be coming from the surrounding lands. And judging by the sheer amount of vampires one faces in the Crimson Court, this probably means that all the government officials for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement in Whateverland, which would mean a ''Class 0 ApocalypseHow.''
* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that vampires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are too far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.

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\n[[WMG: FridgeLogic]]\n* Okay so this is somewhere between fridge logic and fridge horror, but we know Considering that the crimson court events started when The Ancestor spiked the drinks of the hamlet's aristocracy with vampire blood, right? ...except the phrase "the hamlet's aristocracy" ''makes no freaking sense''. According to the other wiki, "A hamlet is a small human settlement. In different jurisdictions and geographies, a hamlet may be the size of a town, village or parish, or may be considered to be a smaller settlement or subdivision or satellite entity to a larger settlement." ''No way'' a place like that would have it's own endless hoard of aristocrats; it barely makes sense for them to have even ''the one'' aristocrat, come to think of it. No, these people would have to be coming from the surrounding lands. And judging by the sheer amount there are hundreds of vampires one faces in the Crimson Court, and they are all nobility and officials from outside of the Hamlet, this probably means that all many of the government officials leaders and nobility for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement in Whateverland, which would mean a ''Class 0 ApocalypseHow.''
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settlement. No wonder the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that vampires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features outside lands are too far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.in such awful disarray and everything is so lawless.
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* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that vampires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are to far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.

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* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that vampires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are to too far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.
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* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that campires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are to far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.

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* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that campires vampires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are to far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.
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* Not so much fridge horror as fridge {{Squick}}, but the word "courtesan" is just a more elegant word for prostitute. Given that, have you ever looked at said enemy's idle animations and noticed that [[FanDisservice her dress splits down the middle]]?
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* Okay so this is somewhere between fridge logic and fridge horror, but we know that the crimson court events started when The Ancestor spiked the drinks of the hamlet's aristocracy with vampire blood, right? ...except the phrase "the hamlet's aristocracy" ''makes no freaking sense''. According to the other wiki, "A hamlet is a small human settlement. In different jurisdictions and geographies, a hamlet may be the size of a town, village or parish, or may be considered to be a smaller settlement or subdivision or satellite entity to a larger settlement." ''No way'' a place like that would have it's own endless hoard of aristocrats; it barely makes sense for them to have even ''the one'' aristocrat, come to think of it. No, these people would have to be coming from the surrounding lands. And judging by the sheer amount of vampires one faces in the Crimson Court, this probably means that all the government officials for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement in Whateverland, which would mean a ''Class 0 ApocalypseHow''

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* Okay so this is somewhere between fridge logic and fridge horror, but we know that the crimson court events started when The Ancestor spiked the drinks of the hamlet's aristocracy with vampire blood, right? ...except the phrase "the hamlet's aristocracy" ''makes no freaking sense''. According to the other wiki, "A hamlet is a small human settlement. In different jurisdictions and geographies, a hamlet may be the size of a town, village or parish, or may be considered to be a smaller settlement or subdivision or satellite entity to a larger settlement." ''No way'' a place like that would have it's own endless hoard of aristocrats; it barely makes sense for them to have even ''the one'' aristocrat, come to think of it. No, these people would have to be coming from the surrounding lands. And judging by the sheer amount of vampires one faces in the Crimson Court, this probably means that all the government officials for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement in Whateverland, which would mean a ''Class 0 ApocalypseHow''ApocalypseHow.''
* Once the Sanitarium discovers a means of curing the Crimson Curse, why does it never occur to anyone to attempt this on the denizens of the Courtyard? I mean I can see it being the case that campires who progress to the point of developing actual mosquito features are to far gone, but nobody even ''tries''. Besides, I'm sure all those outcast Wizened Shrews would be more than happy to volunteer.
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* [[spoiler: The Heart]] not only sent the letter that sends you to the Estate, but also Is the Narrator for it, think about the narration of the opening when you start up the game, the Ancestors voice is stilted and some of the lines seem cut wholesale from the way he says them in game, almost like they were a recording of a phrase rather than naturally flowing into the sentences, [[spoiler: It was the Heart, using Voice clips he gleaned from the Ancestor.]]

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* [[spoiler: The Heart]] not only sent the letter that sends you to the Estate, but also Is the Narrator for it, think about the narration of the opening when you start up the game, the Ancestors voice is stilted and some of the lines seem cut wholesale from the way he says them in game, almost like they were a recording of a phrase rather than naturally flowing into the sentences, [[spoiler: It was the Heart, using Voice clips he gleaned from the Ancestor.]]]]

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* Okay so this is somewhere between fridge logic and fridge horror, but we know that the crimson court events started when The Ancestor spiked the drinks of the hamlet's aristocracy with vampire blood, right? ...except the phrase "the hamlet's aristocracy" ''makes no freaking sense''. According to the other wiki, "A hamlet is a small human settlement. In different jurisdictions and geographies, a hamlet may be the size of a town, village or parish, or may be considered to be a smaller settlement or subdivision or satellite entity to a larger settlement." ''No way'' a place like that would have it's own endless hoard of aristocrats; it barely makes sense for them to have even ''the one'' aristocrat, come to think of it. No, these people would have to be coming from the surrounding lands. And judging by the sheer amount of vampires one faces in the Crimson Court, this probably means that all the government officials for hundreds of miles are now AmbiguouslySapient bloodthirsty monsters locked in one small settlement in Whateverland, which would mean a ''Class 0 ApocalypseHow''
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* You know how the Abomination automatically shifts back to human form if he afflicts? That's the beast form [[HorrifyingTheHorror pulling a]] ScrewThisImOuttaHere
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* Why are the Warrens the one dungeon that has the fewest areas that need shovels, despite being ancient tunnels predating the earliest settlers? Simple: the Swine need to move around and live in there too, and would clear out many of the blockages that get in their way.

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* Why are the Warrens the one dungeon that has the fewest areas that need shovels, despite being ancient tunnels predating the earliest settlers? Simple: the Swine need to move around and live in there too, and would clear out many of the blockages that get in their way. Compare that to the Weald and Cove, which tend to have creatures who just bypass the blockages (the Pelagics can swim and most of the creatures in the Weald can control plants or are corrupted beasts) and the undead in the Ruins could have been lingering in collapsed rooms for years on end waiting for victims to stumble across them.
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** There are the possibilities of the swines [[WasOnceAMan turning more humans into swines]] or swine females looking just as ugly as their male counterparts. Neither of which are any better.
** The breeding is most likely swine-on-swine. The unsanitary conditions, and the swine penchant for violence, pretty much means a pregnancy would need to come to term within a week, because most captives wouldn’t live longer than that.
** Most swine are categorized as Beast/Human, so humans becoming swine isn't out of the question.
** The human part was probably already established during the initial experiments. Everything the party sees is whatever came after those first steps.
** What exactly would you expect a female Swine to look like? real-life female pigs are visually indistinguishable from male ones, as is the case with the majority of animals out there.
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** What exactly would you expect a female Swine to look like? real-life female pigs are visually indistinguishable from male ones, as is the case with the majority of animals out there.
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* [[spoiler:The thing from the comet can summon enemies from timelines where it won. Keep in mind that entails it growing to maturity and [[EvilVsEvil fighting the Heart for dominion over the planet.]] This means the thing ''is strong enough at full power to decisively beat the Heart''.]]

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* [[spoiler:The thing from the comet can summon enemies from timelines where it won. Keep in mind that entails it growing to maturity and [[EvilVsEvil [[EvilVersusEvil fighting the Heart for dominion over the planet.]] This means the thing ''is strong enough at full power to decisively beat the Heart''.]]
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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to {{HoistByHisOwnPetard its own polar opposite.}}]]

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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to {{HoistByHisOwnPetard [[HoistByHisOwnPetard its own polar opposite.}}]]]]]]
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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to HoistByHisOwnPetard its own polar opposite.]]

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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to HoistByHisOwnPetard {{HoistByHisOwnPetard its own polar opposite.]]}}]]
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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to HoistByHisOwnPetardits own polar opposite.]]

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** And ''of course'' humanity could create a benevolent god through belief alone. [[spoiler:They themselves are fragments of a god-like entity - one believer wouldn't have the power to create a god, but ''thousands'' of them could and did. By extension, The Heart isn't just mother and father to man, but grandmother and grandfather to HoistByHisOwnPetardits HoistByHisOwnPetard its own polar opposite.]]
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* The fact that Reynauld starts off as a Kleptomaniac despite being a holy crusader actually makes sense when you look at how a lot of real-life holy wars were waged. While a lot of real-life crusaders were motivated by religious reasons, they still spent a lot of time looting and pillaging the battlefields and countryside. He might very well have picked up his kleptomaniac habits from his time in the army.
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* For a type who absolutely hates vampires, The Fanatic never actually tries to enter the Contryard to kill vampiures specifically, whicn normally would look strange. However, remember that you can't enter without Invitation - item dropped only by Gatekeepers. The Fanatic is know for tendency to burn enemies alive, and this is what likely happens with any Gatekeepers he manages to catch; anything they would have is burned, and even if Invitation survives the Fanatic is likely to try and get rid off "cursed item" specifically. He never gets an Invitation and can't enter Countryard (he is likely to not even know that he could enter if he had one), thus all he can do is to hunt outside, hoping to slow the spread of Curse.

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