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12th Jun '17 12:32:11 PM Kaye006
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* Older Vlad makes it ''very'' easy for Danny to find him through the Ghost Zone. Earlier, it was said that Dark Danny had a hard time locating Vlad's ghost portal. It's ''extremely'' possible that Vlad simply stopped trying to hide from Dark Danny and 'wished' to be killed. Years of self-loathing will do that.
4th Jun '17 3:42:45 PM Jaxxy
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*** How is it a bad judgment? Danny tried very hard to be the good guy, to save the town, yet he was beaten to the punch and humiliated, over and over, by the Masters Blasters. The town had forgotten him and he came to the conclusion that he was not needed anymore. On top of that, his parents were thrown in jail. It baffles me when people call him selfish because that was the most selfless thing he did. He gave up a part of himself to make sure his family was safe. Did he loaf around after? Yes of course! But he's a ''fourteen year old kid''. He's living the life he partially missed out on because he was too busy fighting ghosts half the time. He didn't have to worry about the overall well-being of the city anymore because it was already being kept safe by Vlad's team. And let's be honest, Danny's pretty damn clueless. He didn't know what was going on behind the scenes until it just about smacked him in the face.
3rd May '17 8:09:19 PM ectostar
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* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it]].'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.

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* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it]].'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.result.
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13th Apr '17 11:33:53 AM Julia1984
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** Dark Danny is capable of both duplicating himself and having these duplicates overshadow people. He traveled back into the past, when his parents were still alive. Even back when he was Danny, he had experience of overshadowing his father. ''[[BedTrick Think]] [[OedipusComplex about]] [[ParentalIncest that]].''
* In ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'', [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Dark Danny]] is a hybrid of Vlad Plasmius and Danny Phantom. As a mashup of the two, he probably has the same viewpoints of both guys. Danny views his mom as his mom, and Vlad wants to [[UnusualEuphemism put his phantom in her thermos]]. [[{{Squick}} How does]] [[ParentalIncest he see her]]?
** How about the scene where [[spoiler: Dark Danny kills his human half]]? NightmareFuel in and of itself, right? However, look at how [[FanNickname Dan's]] looming over Danny with his fangs bared and tongue lashing about. ImAHumanitarian, anyone?
*** [[YouDoNotWantToKnow I can honestly say]] [[BrainBleach I wish this didn't happen]], but my mind went... [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil another direction]].
*** Also keep this in mind with Vlad from the mentioned alternate timeline. He viewed Danny as the son he never had, and, seeing Danny's broken spirit being wasted away into nothing by his grief, decided to act like a decent human being for once. So he did something to help Danny, just because he wanted to ease the poor kid's suffering and end his pain. It blows up in the guy's face in more ways than one. His ghost half gets ripped out of his body! He watches the defenseless human Danny DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH SO BAD HE CAN'T EVEN MENTION IT WHILE HE'S POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING TO SAVE THE KID! The monster that was created, which pretty much is killing people on a daily basis - in the now apocalyptic world - was a result of something Vlad himself did, JUST TO HELP A KID HE WANTED TO SEE STOP SUFFERING! And now he lives alone in his huge torn up home... for years... with nothing but the haunting memories of this ALL to reflect on! I don't know what he's on to keep him from becoming insane or killing himself... BUT I NEED SOME!
** Speaking of "Ultimate Enemy", where exactly is BadFuture!Lunch Lady? After all, [[{{Squick}} she did marry Box Ghost and have a daughter with him]]... wouldn't someone expect her to want revenge on Dan too? Unless...oh...no wonder Box Ghost was so ticked off...Dan very likely ''[[MoralEventHorizon killed the guy's wife]]!''

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** * Dark Danny is capable of both duplicating himself and having these duplicates overshadow people. He traveled back into the past, when his parents were still alive. Even back when he was Danny, he had experience of overshadowing his father. ''[[BedTrick Think]] [[OedipusComplex about]] [[ParentalIncest that]].''
* In ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'', [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Dark Danny]] is a hybrid of Vlad Plasmius and Danny Phantom. As a mashup of the two, he probably has the same viewpoints of both guys. Danny views his mom as his mom, and Vlad wants to [[UnusualEuphemism put his phantom in her thermos]]. [[{{Squick}} How does]] [[ParentalIncest he see her]]?
** * How about the scene where [[spoiler: Dark Danny kills his human half]]? NightmareFuel in and of itself, right? However, look at how [[FanNickname Dan's]] looming over Danny with his fangs bared and tongue lashing about. ImAHumanitarian, anyone?
*** ** [[YouDoNotWantToKnow I can honestly say]] [[BrainBleach I wish this didn't happen]], but my mind went... [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil another direction]].
*** ** Also keep this in mind with Vlad from the mentioned alternate timeline. He viewed Danny as the son he never had, and, seeing Danny's broken spirit being wasted away into nothing by his grief, decided to act like a decent human being for once. So he did something to help Danny, just because he wanted to ease the poor kid's suffering and end his pain. It blows up in the guy's face in more ways than one. His ghost half gets ripped out of his body! He watches the defenseless human Danny DIE A HORRIBLE DEATH SO BAD HE CAN'T EVEN MENTION IT WHILE HE'S POWERLESS TO DO ANYTHING TO SAVE THE KID! The monster that was created, which pretty much is killing people on a daily basis - in the now apocalyptic world - was a result of something Vlad himself did, JUST TO HELP A KID HE WANTED TO SEE STOP SUFFERING! And now he lives alone in his huge torn up home... for years... with nothing but the haunting memories of this ALL to reflect on! I don't know what he's on to keep him from becoming insane or killing himself... BUT I NEED SOME!
** * Speaking of "Ultimate Enemy", where exactly is BadFuture!Lunch Lady? After all, [[{{Squick}} she did marry Box Ghost and have a daughter with him]]... wouldn't someone expect her to want revenge on Dan too? Unless...oh...no wonder Box Ghost was so ticked off...Dan very likely ''[[MoralEventHorizon killed the guy's wife]]!''wife]]!''
* Before the end of "The Ultimate Enemy," the only reason Dark Danny doesn't kill his younger self is because if Danny doesn't grow up, he won't exist ("What are you gonna do? Waste me? What happens to ''you'' then?")... or so everyone thought. Thanks to Danny getting the Ghostly Wail 10 years too early, Dark Danny knows the future has been changed, that Danny Phantom ''won't'' turn into him... but he still exists. And now he knows he doesn't need Danny to turn into him to ensure his own existence. So if he ever breaks out of that thermos, he no longer has any reason to keep his younger self alive...
* When he's about to send Danny back to the past, Vlad briefly considers, "Or I could just destroy you now and prevent this future..." Fortunately, he decides not to do that, but what if he had gone through with that plan? He obviously thought stopping Danny from growing up would erase his future self from existence. However, the audience learns at the end that, even with the future changed, Dark Danny still "exists outside of time." Had Vlad killed Danny, it would have changed nothing... except stopping Danny from going back and saving everyone. Far from preventing the BadFuture, he came within an inch of dooming it for good!

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* Minor compared to this other stuff, but [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what exactly happened to those plane pilots]] in "Infinite Realms" after that natural portal spit them out in the Jurrasic Period!?

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* Minor compared to this other stuff, but [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse what exactly happened to those plane pilots]] in "Infinite Realms" after that natural portal spit them out in the Jurrasic Jurassic Period!?



*** I'm going to have to side with the first troper on this one, because he kind of ''is.'' Ghosts in this show are never really implied to be a separate species. Not to mention the fact that they're, y'know, dead.

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*** ** I'm going to have to side with the first troper on this one, because he kind of ''is.'' Ghosts in this show are never really implied to be a separate species. Not to mention the fact that they're, y'know, dead.



*** That actually makes sense. This just gave me a thought. What if the Ghost Zone is the Phantom verse's version of Purgatory? Maybe ghosts like Desiree, Poindexter, and Ember are all in Purgatory and unable to move on (yet) to (Heaven/Hell/afterlife/reincarnation/etc.).
*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnBYCR6-d4 Confirmed: the Ghost Zone is purgatory]]! The DP-verse equivalents of Heaven and Hell are called The Elsewhereness and the Unworld, respectively, and the Unworld is also where souls go who are forgotten. [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife Sound familiar, anyone]]?

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*** ** That actually makes sense. This just gave me a thought. What if the Ghost Zone is the Phantom verse's version of Purgatory? Maybe ghosts like Desiree, Poindexter, and Ember are all in Purgatory and unable to move on (yet) to (Heaven/Hell/afterlife/reincarnation/etc.).
*** ** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnBYCR6-d4 Confirmed: the Ghost Zone is purgatory]]! The DP-verse equivalents of Heaven and Hell are called The Elsewhereness and the Unworld, respectively, and the Unworld is also where souls go who are forgotten. [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife Sound familiar, anyone]]?



* This troper realized something that puts a whole new terrifying spin on Spectra that I'm honestly shocked hasn't been brought up yet. Spectra being a psychiatrist going from school to school deliberately picking at teenagers personal issues has a lot of dark places one could go to especially since her plan involving jazz (which was straight up murder all to crush everyone's spirit) raises some very dark possibilities, what do many teenagers sometimes do when they can't escape their misery? This brings up an even more horrifying question what if the teenager spectra is tearing away at has a fear of their family not loving them, or their friends not caring? Picture it spectra convincing someone no one loves them, how many suicides did spectra likely cause and not just cause but revel in? I think we might have another candidate for complete monster in this show.
* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it]].'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.
* Before the end of "The Ultimate Enemy," the only reason Dark Danny doesn't kill his younger self is because if Danny doesn't grow up, he won't exist ("What are you gonna do? Waste me? What happens to ''you'' then?")... or so everyone thought. Thanks to Danny getting the Ghostly Wail 10 years too early, Dark Danny knows the future has been changed, that Danny Phantom ''won't'' turn into him... but he still exists. And now he knows he doesn't need Danny to turn into him to ensure his own existence. So if he ever breaks out of that thermos, he no longer has any reason to keep his younger self alive...

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* This troper realized something that puts a whole new terrifying spin on Spectra that I'm honestly shocked hasn't been brought up yet. Spectra being a psychiatrist going from school to school deliberately picking at teenagers personal issues has a lot of dark places one could go to especially since her plan involving jazz (which was straight up murder all to crush everyone's spirit) raises some very dark possibilities, what possibilities. What do many teenagers sometimes do when they can't escape their misery? This brings up an even more horrifying question question: what if the teenager spectra Spectra is tearing away at has a fear of their family not loving them, or their friends not caring? Picture it spectra it: Spectra convincing someone no one loves them, how them. How many suicides did spectra Spectra likely cause and not just cause but revel in? I think we might have another candidate for complete monster in this show.
* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it]].'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.
* Before the end of "The Ultimate Enemy," the only reason Dark Danny doesn't kill his younger self is because if Danny doesn't grow up, he won't exist ("What are you gonna do? Waste me? What happens to ''you'' then?")... or so everyone thought. Thanks to Danny getting the Ghostly Wail 10 years too early, Dark Danny knows the future has been changed, that Danny Phantom ''won't'' turn into him... but he still exists. And now he knows he doesn't need Danny to turn into him to ensure his own existence. So if he ever breaks out of that thermos, he no longer has any reason to keep his younger self alive...
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6th Apr '17 11:09:51 AM Julia1984
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* In "D-Stabilized," Valerie uses some kind of scanner to track down Danielle, but when the latter switches from ghost-mode to human, Valerie can't tell she's a ghost even when she's looking right at her. Somehow, whatever scanner she's using that led her right to the spot can't point out the half-ghost to her. Weird, illogical, obviously just done for the sake of plot... unless this is equipment she received from Vlad (her original suit may have been destroyed, but who knows how many weapons she hid like that ecto-gun from the end of "Reign Storm"). Of course Vlad wouldn't give her any equipment that could alert her if someone who looked human was half-ghost!
5th Apr '17 11:42:13 AM Julia1984
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* A minor case, but when Danny and his friends arrived at transformed Gothapoluca to retrieve Gem of Form in ''Reality Trip'', Sam rips several teddy bears who when transform back into human when Danny gets the gem. If there's any indication, she has just ''committed a murder'' and no one bats an eye.

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* A minor case, but when Before the end of "The Ultimate Enemy," the only reason Dark Danny and doesn't kill his friends arrived at transformed Gothapoluca to retrieve Gem of Form in ''Reality Trip'', Sam rips several teddy bears who when transform back into human when younger self is because if Danny gets doesn't grow up, he won't exist ("What are you gonna do? Waste me? What happens to ''you'' then?")... or so everyone thought. Thanks to Danny getting the gem. If there's Ghostly Wail 10 years too early, Dark Danny knows the future has been changed, that Danny Phantom ''won't'' turn into him... but he still exists. And now he knows he doesn't need Danny to turn into him to ensure his own existence. So if he ever breaks out of that thermos, he no longer has any indication, she has just ''committed a murder'' and no one bats an eye.reason to keep his younger self alive...
30th Mar '17 4:56:27 PM ectostar
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** It never ceases to confound and amaze me how readily people latch onto the 'sam-is-a-danny-phantom-fangirl' theory. '''First of all''', Danny Phantom and Fenton are ''one and the same''. To quote ''Lois and Clark'' [Danny Fenton] is who [Danny] is. [Danny Phantom] is just what he ''does''. And to further elaborate on this, a quote from WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}: it's not what you look like that '''defines''' you, but your ''actions''. Danny's powers weren't just ghost rays- they were a major outlet to a part of his ''personality''- the ChronicHeroSyndrome part, the part that couldn't just “sit on the sidelines” and watch innocent people (people he didn't even ''know'') being terrorized when he could “change things”- via his powers. ''That'' is the part of Danny's personality that Sam -and us, the audience- loved. And yet, that part of his personality vanished in the beginning of the movie. He sat back. He didn't care about strangers anymore. He didn't care about justice, all "the good he was doing" anymore. He just cared about having fun. In short, he became the same apathetic, selfish jerk that defined “normal kids” everywhere- chewing on corn dogs and blissfully watched his town being extorted on a gigantic scale- which is exactly what drove Sam over the edge and lead to her supreme WhatTheHellHero speech. ("You're not ''you'' anymore!") And that's why Sam's eyes lit up when he got himself back to normal stage 1- the plan to save the earth ("Now ''that's'' the Danny I know!") and stage 2- retrieving his powers and the biggest outlet to the other part of his personality. -- @/{{KariGray}}

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** It never ceases to confound and amaze me how readily people latch onto the 'sam-is-a-danny-phantom-fangirl' theory. '''First of all''', Danny Phantom and Fenton are ''one and the same''. To quote ''Lois and Clark'' [Danny Fenton] is who [Danny] is. [Danny Phantom] is just what he ''does''. And to further elaborate on this, a quote from WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}: it's not what you look like that '''defines''' you, but your ''actions''. Danny's powers weren't just ghost rays- they were a major outlet to a part of his ''personality''- the ChronicHeroSyndrome part, the part that couldn't just “sit "sit on the sidelines” sidelines" and watch innocent people (people he didn't even ''know'') being terrorized when he could “change things”- "change things"- via his powers. ''That'' is the part of Danny's personality that Sam -and us, the audience- loved. And yet, that part of his personality vanished in the beginning of the movie. He sat back. He didn't care about strangers anymore. He didn't care about justice, all "the good he was doing" anymore. He just cared about having fun. In short, he became the same apathetic, selfish jerk that defined “normal kids” "normal kids" everywhere- chewing on corn dogs and blissfully watched his town being extorted on a gigantic scale- which is exactly what drove Sam over the edge and lead to her supreme WhatTheHellHero speech. ("You're not ''you'' anymore!") And that's why Sam's eyes lit up when he got himself back to normal stage 1- the plan to save the earth ("Now ''that's'' the Danny I know!") and stage 2- retrieving his powers and the biggest outlet to the other part of his personality. -- @/{{KariGray}}



** Heck, some of us never realize it at all and [[AndThatLittleGirlWasMe stumble across it on the tropes page.]] -Sesquipedalia

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** Heck, some of us never realize it at all and [[AndThatLittleGirlWasMe stumble across it on the tropes page.]] page]]. -Sesquipedalia



** Dark Danny is capable of both duplicating himself and having these duplicates overshadow people. He traveled back into the past, when his parents were still alive. Even back when he was Danny, he had experience of overshadowing his father. ''[[BedTrick Think]] [[OedipusComplex about]] [[ParentalIncest that.]]''
* In ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'', [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Dark Danny]] is a hybrid of Vlad Plasmius and Danny Phantom. As a mashup of the two, he probably has the same viewpoints of both guys. Danny views his mom as his mom, and Vlad wants to [[UnusualEuphemism put his phantom in her thermos.]] [[{{Squick}} How does]] [[ParentalIncest he see her?]]

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** Dark Danny is capable of both duplicating himself and having these duplicates overshadow people. He traveled back into the past, when his parents were still alive. Even back when he was Danny, he had experience of overshadowing his father. ''[[BedTrick Think]] [[OedipusComplex about]] [[ParentalIncest that.]]''
that]].''
* In ''WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom'', [[SuperpoweredEvilSide Dark Danny]] is a hybrid of Vlad Plasmius and Danny Phantom. As a mashup of the two, he probably has the same viewpoints of both guys. Danny views his mom as his mom, and Vlad wants to [[UnusualEuphemism put his phantom in her thermos.]] thermos]]. [[{{Squick}} How does]] [[ParentalIncest he see her?]]her]]?



** Speaking of "Ultimate Enemy", where exactly is BadFuture!Lunch Lady? After all, [[{{Squick}} she did marry Box Ghost and have a daughter with him]]... wouldn't someone expect her to want revenge on Dan too? Unless...oh...no wonder Box Ghost was so ticked off...Dan very likely ''[[MoralEventHorizon killed the guy's wife!]]''

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** Speaking of "Ultimate Enemy", where exactly is BadFuture!Lunch Lady? After all, [[{{Squick}} she did marry Box Ghost and have a daughter with him]]... wouldn't someone expect her to want revenge on Dan too? Unless...oh...no wonder Box Ghost was so ticked off...Dan very likely ''[[MoralEventHorizon killed the guy's wife!]]''wife]]!''



*** {{Jossed}}, but her [[WordOfGod confirmed]] death isn't much better. She was a lonely, unpopular girl (which explains her PopularityPower) with hopes of becoming a rock star (she's an EvilDiva). A boy (who may or may not be the boy in her VillainSong) asked her out to go to the movies. [[TearJerker She waited for him all night]] saying to herself "He's just running late." When morning came and he didn't show, she came home so exhausted [[NightmareFuel that she didn't wake up to her house burning down and perished in the flames.]] This is also how she earned the nickname [[MeaningfulName Ember]].

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*** {{Jossed}}, but her [[WordOfGod confirmed]] death isn't much better. She was a lonely, unpopular girl (which explains her PopularityPower) with hopes of becoming a rock star (she's an EvilDiva). A boy (who may or may not be the boy in her VillainSong) asked her out to go to the movies. [[TearJerker She waited for him all night]] saying to herself "He's just running late." When morning came and he didn't show, she came home so exhausted [[NightmareFuel that she didn't wake up to her house burning down and perished in the flames.]] flames]]. This is also how she earned the nickname [[MeaningfulName Ember]].



** Which makes [[FutureMeScaresMe Dark Danny]] even more terrifying, since he likely fulfilled this potential. And considering that Danny was going through puberty when this happened, [[PowerPerversionPotential this was probably done]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil in a very creepy manner.]]

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** Which makes [[FutureMeScaresMe Dark Danny]] even more terrifying, since he likely fulfilled this potential. And considering that Danny was going through puberty when this happened, [[PowerPerversionPotential this was probably done]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil in a very creepy manner.]]manner]].



* [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Box. Lunch.]] How the hell was she... ''made''?

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* [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Box. Lunch.]] Lunch]]. How the hell was she... ''made''?



* Considering that we know at least some of the ghosts [[WasOnceAMan are the genuine souls of dead people]], this means that the [[EldritchLocation the Ghost Zone]] would be the afterlife of the WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom universe. This means that when the Men in White planned to destroy the Ghost Zone, [[CessationOfExistence they are effectively trying to obliterate the afterlife]], which would both [[DeaderThanDead destroy every dead soul]] and deny the human race an afterlife-[[KnightTemplar and all just to get rid of the ghost haunting.]] Even if blowing up the Ghost Zone didn't destroy the Earth as well, [[MoralEventHorizon that is seriously messed up.]]

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* Considering that we know at least some of the ghosts [[WasOnceAMan are the genuine souls of dead people]], this means that the [[EldritchLocation the Ghost Zone]] would be the afterlife of the WesternAnimation/DannyPhantom universe. This means that when the Men in White planned to destroy the Ghost Zone, [[CessationOfExistence they are effectively trying to obliterate the afterlife]], which would both [[DeaderThanDead destroy every dead soul]] and deny the human race an afterlife-[[KnightTemplar and all just to get rid of the ghost haunting.]] haunting]]. Even if blowing up the Ghost Zone didn't destroy the Earth as well, [[MoralEventHorizon that is seriously messed up.]]up]].



*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnBYCR6-d4 Confirmed: the Ghost Zone is purgatory!]] The DP-verse equivalents of Heaven and Hell are called The Elsewhereness and the Unworld, respectively, and the Unworld is also where souls go who are forgotten. [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife Sound familiar, anyone?]]

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*** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpnBYCR6-d4 Confirmed: the Ghost Zone is purgatory!]] purgatory]]! The DP-verse equivalents of Heaven and Hell are called The Elsewhereness and the Unworld, respectively, and the Unworld is also where souls go who are forgotten. [[WesternAnimation/TheBookOfLife Sound familiar, anyone?]]anyone]]?



* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it.]]'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.

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* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it.]]'' it]].'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead]] as a result.
27th Mar '17 6:04:25 PM Storygirl000
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* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it.]]'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead.]]

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* Vlad's VillainDecay in Season 3 has some pretty dark undertones when you remember what happened in his last appearance in Season Two: ''his son'' (well, the clone of a boy he wants as his son and probably ''considers'' his son) ''[[AdultFear disintegrated right in front of his eyes, and he was helpless to stop it.]]'' And it was ''technically Danny's fault.'' He's probably suffering PTSD and wants Danny [[RevengeBeforeReason deader than dead.]]dead]] as a result.
17th Mar '17 7:45:57 PM Vir
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** It never ceases to confound and amaze me how readily people latch onto the 'sam-is-a-danny-phantom-fangirl' theory. '''First of all''', Danny Phantom and Fenton are ''one and the same''. To quote ''Lois and Clark'' [Danny Fenton] is who [Danny] is. [Danny Phantom] is just what he ''does''. And to further elaborate on this, a quote from {{Megamind}}: it's not what you look like that '''defines''' you, but your ''actions''. Danny's powers weren't just ghost rays- they were a major outlet to a part of his ''personality''- the ChronicHeroSyndrome part, the part that couldn't just “sit on the sidelines” and watch innocent people (people he didn't even ''know'') being terrorized when he could “change things”- via his powers. ''That'' is the part of Danny's personality that Sam -and us, the audience- loved. And yet, that part of his personality vanished in the beginning of the movie. He sat back. He didn't care about strangers anymore. He didn't care about justice, all "the good he was doing" anymore. He just cared about having fun. In short, he became the same apathetic, selfish jerk that defined “normal kids” everywhere- chewing on corn dogs and blissfully watched his town being extorted on a gigantic scale- which is exactly what drove Sam over the edge and lead to her supreme WhatTheHellHero speech. ("You're not ''you'' anymore!") And that's why Sam's eyes lit up when he got himself back to normal stage 1- the plan to save the earth ("Now ''that's'' the Danny I know!") and stage 2- retrieving his powers and the biggest outlet to the other part of his personality. -- @/{{KariGray}}

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** It never ceases to confound and amaze me how readily people latch onto the 'sam-is-a-danny-phantom-fangirl' theory. '''First of all''', Danny Phantom and Fenton are ''one and the same''. To quote ''Lois and Clark'' [Danny Fenton] is who [Danny] is. [Danny Phantom] is just what he ''does''. And to further elaborate on this, a quote from {{Megamind}}: WesternAnimation/{{Megamind}}: it's not what you look like that '''defines''' you, but your ''actions''. Danny's powers weren't just ghost rays- they were a major outlet to a part of his ''personality''- the ChronicHeroSyndrome part, the part that couldn't just “sit on the sidelines” and watch innocent people (people he didn't even ''know'') being terrorized when he could “change things”- via his powers. ''That'' is the part of Danny's personality that Sam -and us, the audience- loved. And yet, that part of his personality vanished in the beginning of the movie. He sat back. He didn't care about strangers anymore. He didn't care about justice, all "the good he was doing" anymore. He just cared about having fun. In short, he became the same apathetic, selfish jerk that defined “normal kids” everywhere- chewing on corn dogs and blissfully watched his town being extorted on a gigantic scale- which is exactly what drove Sam over the edge and lead to her supreme WhatTheHellHero speech. ("You're not ''you'' anymore!") And that's why Sam's eyes lit up when he got himself back to normal stage 1- the plan to save the earth ("Now ''that's'' the Danny I know!") and stage 2- retrieving his powers and the biggest outlet to the other part of his personality. -- @/{{KariGray}}
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