History Fridge / ChildrenOfMen

15th Nov '14 7:43:43 AM ironballs16
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*** Also, it's heavily implied that Kee is a refugee, and the movie both states and demonstrates that the British government is as fond of refugees as the Nazis were of Jews. Theo refuses to take Kee to the government because he believes their irrational hatred will drive them to at best mistreat, and at worst kill, Kee and her baby.

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*** Also, it's heavily implied that Kee is a refugee, and the movie both states and demonstrates that the British government is as fond of refugees as the Nazis were of Jews. Theo refuses to take Kee to the government because he believes their irrational hatred will drive them result in her baby being "reassigned" to at best mistreat, an approved couple, and at worst kill, unethical experiments with no concern for her well-being conducted on Kee and her baby.in hopes of finding why she's fertile.
19th Jun '14 3:48:14 PM sosaith
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* It is worth noting that artificial insemination, using ''frozen'' donor sperm, had been around for a few decades at the time of the novel's writing, and by the time the film was made, stored donor ova and fetuses are ''established'' medical technology. Did nobody think to save some or ''use'' them? In the film, at least, this might be answered if the mass infertility is due to problems with ''implantation'', meaning that the stored ova and fetuses are useless unless/until somebody comes up with an artificial womb, but...

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* It is worth noting that artificial insemination, using ''frozen'' donor sperm, had been around for a few decades at the time of the novel's writing, and by the time the film was made, stored donor ova and fetuses embryos are ''established'' medical technology. Did nobody think to save some or ''use'' them? In the film, at least, this might be answered if the mass infertility is due to problems with ''implantation'', meaning that the stored ova and fetuses embryos are useless unless/until somebody comes up with an artificial womb, but...
10th May '14 11:53:46 AM SandyGunfox
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*** Because nobody has even gotten pregnant, miscarriage or not, in over 18 years. They explicitly state that the fetus is alive and well in her womb, too, and not a stillbirth. even though she's days away from due. It's enough to give people hope.
4th Dec '13 9:57:30 PM twingle93
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*** The mention that the women suffered miscarriages also bugged me. They could have easily just said that woman can't become pregnant. From that line, not only could they become pregnant, but they would just miscarriage before they could carry it to term. So why isn't anyone assuming that's just what's going to happen to Kee's baby? It will just miscarry just like all the others apparently did. It might as well be supernatural, like the Rapture if that's the case.
29th Sep '13 8:57:57 AM erforce
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* The movie, ''ChildrenOfMen''. A trip to the fridge might not be required for viewers, but one ''really'' hopes the people who made it did need one: while the novel has the gender that goes sterile be men (so humanity could be restored easily by artificial insemination--not terribly good, but at least all you need to do with the sole fertile man is ask him to jerk off into a vial regularly) the movie genderflips this. If humanity is going to have a snowball's chance of surviving? The sole remaining fertile woman will have to spend the rest of her life being used to pop out as many babies as possible, by as many different men as can be arranged. It won't really matter if possibly other women could carry the fetuses to term, because the drugs damage the ovaries ''and'' there's a reason they don't use surrogate mothers who've never had their own successful pregnancies. Just to make it worse, her daughters are going to meet the same fate, unless they are fortunate to be infertile--oh, and they're probably going to get raped a lot even if they are, anyway, starting from whenever they hit menarche, if not before. Meanwhile, in the novel's universe? All ''he'' needs to do is have regular dates with Mrs Rosy Palms.

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* The movie, ''ChildrenOfMen''. A trip to the fridge might not be required for viewers, but one ''really'' hopes the people who made it did need one: while the novel has the gender that goes sterile be men (so humanity could be restored easily by artificial insemination--not terribly good, but at least all you need to do with the sole fertile man is ask him to jerk off into a vial regularly) the movie genderflips this. If humanity is going to have a snowball's chance of surviving? The sole remaining fertile woman will have to spend the rest of her life being used to pop out as many babies as possible, by as many different men as can be arranged. It won't really matter if possibly other women could carry the fetuses to term, because the drugs damage the ovaries ''and'' there's a reason they don't use surrogate mothers who've never had their own successful pregnancies. Just to make it worse, her daughters are going to meet the same fate, unless they are fortunate to be infertile--oh, and they're probably going to get raped a lot even if they are, anyway, starting from whenever they hit menarche, if not before. Meanwhile, in the novel's universe? All ''he'' needs to do is have regular dates with Mrs Rosy Palms.
8th Sep '13 1:41:17 AM senefen
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*** In the book that was the plan as the females were still fertile, by the time he was sexually mature the youngest women would be in their early/mid 30s. In the movie for some inexplicable reason they swapped the infertility gender so humanity is still pretty much doomed.
18th Jan '13 11:00:16 AM Neakal
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* Luke's actor's acting when he promises to get Key to the Human Project bugged me ever since I first saw it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3JTWAeZ2A trailer]] (1:58). This bugged me even more through the movie, as he seemed to be a good actor to begin with. Only after [[spoiler: the revelation of his HeelFaceTurn]] did I realize that it was not Bad Acting, it was BadBadActing.

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* Luke's actor's acting when he promises to get Key Kee to the Human Project bugged me ever since I first saw it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3JTWAeZ2A trailer]] (1:58). This bugged me even more through the movie, as he seemed to be a good actor to begin with. Only after [[spoiler: the revelation of his HeelFaceTurn]] did I realize that it was not Bad Acting, it was BadBadActing.
18th Jan '13 10:57:16 AM Neakal
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* Luke's actor's acting when he promises to get Key to the Human Project bugged me ever since I first saw it in the [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA3JTWAeZ2A trailer]] (1:58). This bugged me even more through the movie, as he seemed to be a good actor to begin with. Only after [[spoiler: the revelation of his HeelFaceTurn]] did I realize that it was not Bad Acting, it was BadBadActing.
2nd Nov '12 10:14:01 AM ZeldaQueen
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**** It would depend on who those other women are. It's mentioned that one of the dangers Key faces is having her child taken away from her and given to another family, because the government would never want to acknowledge that an illegal immigrant was the one to overcome the massive sterility plague. On the other hand, given the laws of probability and how many immigrants are in the country...yeah.



*** Also, it's heavily implied that Kee is a refugee, and the movie both states and demonstrates that the British government is as fond of refugees as the Nazis were of Jews. Theo refuses to take Kee to the government because he believes their irrational hatred will drive them to at best mistreat, and at worst kill, Kee and her baby.

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*** Also, it's heavily implied that Kee is a refugee, and the movie both states and demonstrates that the British government is as fond of refugees as the Nazis were of Jews. Theo refuses to take Kee to the government because he believes their irrational hatred will drive them to at best mistreat, and at worst kill, Kee and her baby.
12th Sep '12 8:51:38 PM WillDraco
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** It's not a coincidence at all. If you look closely at the side of a bus at the very beginning you can see an advertisement for pet clothes furnished by a GAP {{Expy}}, implying that pets have become important enough that there is a large pet-owner market for designer labels.
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