History Fridge / Camelot3000

* Maybe this belongs under FridgeHorror, but... Maybe it’s that this was written in the 80’s, but the whole thing with Tristan seems kind of... [[UnfortunateImplications Unfortunate]]? Isn’t the implication that Tristan is basically a trans male, I.e. a man born with a woman’s body, instead of just a FemaleMisogynist like, say, [[Franchise/FateSeries Fate!Mordred]] is? So isn’t his ending [[EsotericHappyEnding basically saying that trans people should “accept” that they’re the sex they’re born as?]] Plus, why isn’t hormone replacement therapy more advanced by the year 3000? ...And was Tristan even that particularly misogynistic in legend? Did they mix him up with Agravain or something? I could even understand if it was Gawain if they were using his Post-Vulgate incarnation, but ''Tristan?'' Arguably the UrExample of CourtlyLove? Why him?

** Although to be fair the implication is that people ''don't'' remember much about Arthurian legend. 'Tis the year 3000, after all, and roughly 900 years or so since World War 3. It's implied all that's widely remembered of the KingArthur legend is that he was the incarnation of AuthorityEqualsAsskicking and that he could pull swords out of stones.

* No explanation is ever given for why {{Merlin}} can't turn Perceval and Tristan back into the forms they had back in the time of the first Camelot. Then it hit me: Merlin's powers are based completely on {{Satan}}. He's hit with the Grail in the last issue and it sets off an explosion of some kind. Perceval is one step further than that: he's explicitly ''a relative of Christ''. So Merlin's powers won't work on him, or might even kill him and Merlin both. As for Tristan: he's undergoing karmic retribution from {{God}} because he raped a woman in his previous life. Merlin can't go against that because it would be against God's, or fate's, specific will. Merlin's powers are uniformly only useful against those who are evil themselves or "neutral". -- Tropers/SaintheartAtHome.

** Regarding Tristan the punishment isn't that he's reincarnated as a lesbian, it's that he's reincarnated as a ''woman'' and thus, to a heterosexual male rapist, would seem like a punishment (just as being turned black would be seen to a white racist). His "punishment" is entirely self-inflicted because of the way ''he'' views women. Realizing he can have a relationship with the reincarnated Isolde means he's accepted that a woman is an independent being not dependent a man, even for the most intimate of relationships. In other words, being made a woman was the punishment, being a lesbian was his ''reward''. -- Tropers/KeithM

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* No explanation is ever given for why {{Merlin}} can't turn Perceval and Tristan back into the forms they had back in the time of the first Camelot. Then it hit me: Merlin's powers are based completely on {{Satan}}. He's hit with the Grail in the last issue and it sets off an explosion of some kind. Perceval is one step further than that: he's explicitly ''a relative of Christ''. So Merlin's powers won't work on him, or might even kill him and Merlin both. As for Tristan: he's undergoing karmic retribution from God because he raped a woman in his previous life. Merlin can't go against that because it would be against God's, or fate's, specific will. Merlin's powers are uniformly only useful against those who are evil themselves or "neutral". -- Tropers/SaintheartAtHome.

* No explanation is ever given for why Merlin can't turn Perceval and Tristan back into the forms they had back in the time of the first Camelot. Then it hit me: Merlin's powers are based completely on Satan. He's hit with the Grail in the last issue and it sets off an explosion of some kind. Perceval is one step further than that: he's explicitly ''a relative of Christ''. So Merlin's powers won't work on him, or might even kill him and Merlin both. As for Tristan: he's undergoing karmic retribution from God because he raped a woman in his previous life. Merlin can't go against that because it would be against God's, or fate's, specific will. Merlin's powers are uniformly only useful against those who are evil themselves or "neutral". -- Tropers/SaintheartAtHome.

* ''{{Camelot 3000}}''. No explanation is ever given for why Merlin can't turn Perceval and Tristan back into the forms they had back in the time of the first Camelot. Then it hit me: Merlin's powers are based completely on Satan. He's hit with the Grail in the last issue and it sets off an explosion of some kind. Perceval is one step further than that: he's explicitly ''a relative of Christ''. So Merlin's powers won't work on him, or might even kill him and Merlin both. As for Tristan: he's undergoing karmic retribution from God because he raped a woman in his previous life. Merlin can't go against that because it would be against God's, or fate's, specific will. Merlin's powers are uniformly only useful against those who are evil themselves or "neutral". -- SaintheartAtHome.

** Regarding Tristan the punishment isn't that he's reincarnated as a lesbian, it's that he's reincarnated as a ''woman'' and thus, to a heterosexual male rapist, would seem like a punishment (just as being turned black would be seen to a white racist). His "punishment" is entirely self-inflicted because of the way ''he'' views women. Realizing he can have a relationship with the reincarnated Isolde means he's accepted that a woman is an independent being not dependent a man, even for the most intimate of relationships. In other words, being made a woman was the punishment, being a lesbian was his ''reward''. -- KeithM

** Regarding Tristan the punishment isn't that he's reincarnated as a lesbian, it's that he's reincarnated as a ''woman'' and thus, to a heterosexual male rapist, would seem like a punishment (just as being turned black would be seen to a white racist). His "punishment" is entirely self-inflicted because of the way ''he'' views women. Realizing he can have a relationship with the reincarnated Isolde means he's accepted that a woman is an independent being not dependent a man. -- KeithM

* I also asked myself how it was that Arthur got off so lightly when it's (very disturbingly) pointed out he tried to drown Mordred (and succeeded with a number of other babies!) when he was an infant. The [[UnfortunateImplications punishment]] for Tristan is apparent: he's made a lesbian. Kay is also dead, a betrayer trying to save Arthur, by the time the revelation comes round. Then it hit me: Arthur has ''never'' forgiven himself for what he did. Whilst Kay and Tristan apparently ''don't remember'' what they did -- Tristan asks himself what he did in his previous life -- Arthur does. The next page over, he explains to Tom that the crown has always exacted a heavy price "on those I call my sons", and he embraces Tom as his son. Arthur ''is'' undergoing punishment: he is TheChosenOne and he can't lay the crown aside; he must always remember and regret his crimes, whilst the others at least are spared that. In addition, Mordred himself is Arthur's punishment. -- SaintheartAtHome

* ''{{Camelot 3000}}''. No explanation is ever given for why Merlin can't turn Perceval and Tristan back into the forms they had back in the time of the first Camelot. Then it hit me: Merlin's powers are based completely on Satan. He's hit with the Grail in the last issue and it sets off an explosion [[OrIsIt (of some kind?)]]. Perceval is one step further than that: he's explicitly ''a relative of Christ''. So Merlin's powers won't work on him, or might even kill him and Merlin both. As for Tristan: he's undergoing karmic retribution from God because he raped a woman in his previous life. Merlin can't go against that because it would be against God's, or fate's, specific will. Merlin's powers are uniformly only useful against those who are evil themselves or "neutral". -- SaintheartAtHome.